Federal Judge Allows 127,000 Ballots Cast At Drive Thru Locations In Texas

[BlueTex]

The only mention of the SOS office approving this in any article comes from the say-so of the defendant. In fact, the only documented approval for this I can find anywhere seems to have come from the Harris County Commisioners Court which authorized an appropriation of money’s received from the CARES Act towards its implementation (is that even legal?). If you have proof that the SOS approved this for the general then provide it.

After the Texas Secretary of State Ruth Hughs’ staff in June gave Harris County its blessing to offer drive-thru voting, the Harris County Commissioners Court, the county’s executive board, approved 10 drive-thru voting sites in August.

Two weeks later, Texas Elections Administrator Keith Ingram said of Harris County’s drive-thru voting plans “it’s a creative approach that is probably okay legally” in a court hearing for an unrelated case.

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[Napoleon]

After the Texas Secretary of State Ruth Hughs’ staff in June gave Harris County its blessing to offer drive-thru voting, the Harris County Commissioners Court, the county’s executive board, approved 10 drive-thru voting sites in August.

Two weeks later, Texas Elections Administrator Keith Ingram said of Harris County’s drive-thru voting plans “it’s a creative approach that is probably okay legally” in a court hearing for an unrelated case.

Texas Supreme Court Refuses to Shut Down Drive-Thru Voting

More than 70,000 Houston-area voters have cast their ballots from their vehicles and thousands more will do so after the Texas Supreme Court on Thursday denied a bid from Republicans to shut down d…

www.courthousenews.com

So he says. Why hasn’t the SOS said so? Do you have a quote or any documentation from the SOS authorizing this?

 

[BlueTex]

So he says. Why hasn’t the SOS said so? Do you have a quote or any documentation from the SOS authorizing this?

Keith Ingram reports to the Secretary of State... Your desperation is showing...

 

[Napoleon]

Keith Ingram reports to the Secretary of State... Your desperation is showing...

Your article doesn’t say Keith Ingram authorized it. What it says is that he mentioned in court, in an unrelated case, two weeks after the County Commisioners decision that it was “probably” legal - which means he doesn’t know.

 

[longview]

That's actually NOT what Harris County did... Curbside voting is still allowed at all polls in Harris County... What Harris County did was create drive through polls... You know, like the difference between absentee ballots and mail in ballots....

Drive trough is an expansion of the curbside voting idea, just on a much larger scale.
As I said, it is unclear if they solved the issue which limited early voting geography,
it used to be that you could early vote near your zip code, but not on the other side of the county.
The question would be if a less restrictive drive through voting was equally available to all members of the county?
I look at that map and it would be about 25 miles to the closest drive through voting location to my home.
In comparison, there were 3 normal early voting locations within 3 miles of my home.

 

[BlueTex]

Drive trough is an expansion of the curbside voting idea, just on a much larger scale.
As I said, it is unclear if they solved the issue which limited early voting geography,
it used to be that you could early vote near your zip code, but not on the other side of the county.
The question would be if a less restrictive drive through voting was equally available to all members of the county?
I look at that map and it would be about 25 miles to the closest drive through voting location to my home.
In comparison, there were 3 normal early voting locations within 3 miles of my home.

Texas election laws allows a voter to vote at ANY polling station within their county for general elections.

 

[longview]

Texas election laws allows a voter to vote at ANY polling station within their county for general elections.

So the did fix that issue, but that still does not correct for the distance.
Had I chosen to drive through vote, it would have been about a 25 mile drive to the closest location.

 

[US&THEM]

A diversion, and not even a good one! This in not the GOP, but some individuals who happen to be Republican.
From what I understand the secretary of State, had already approved the County Clerk trying out drive through voting,
so the lawsuit had no legal standing from the start.
What is unclear is if anyone in Harris County could have voted in the drive through locations,
past early voting was limited by geography, but they said they would change that in the future, I am not sure they did.

Haha your post perfectly represents the sad state of the GOP. I compared one Constitutional right with another, but one only matters to you right now. GOP is a joke.

 

[BlueTex]

So the did fix that issue, but that still does not correct for the distance.
Had I chosen to drive through vote, it would have been about a 25 mile drive to the closest location.

LOL... Sorry it's not more convenient for you... I think you might like the kinds of voting changes the democrat led Texas house of representatives will propose next year. Vote blue all the way and thank you for your support...

 

[longview]

Haha your post perfectly represents the sad state of the GOP. I compared one Constitutional right with another, but one only matters to you right now. GOP is a joke.

So you think one party should have easier access to voting than the other?
Had the County clerk placed the drive through locations equally, it would mean little,
but by placing them in mostly democrat area, there appears to be bias.
Here is an example of his location selection, on the Southwest side of the county he choose Missouri City,
last election a precinct near that area (722), recorded the following votes,
Trump: 142
Clinton: 2306
North side precinct 894
Trump: 144
Clinton: 913
North East precinct 968
Trump: 106
Clinton: 450
East side precinct 80
Trump: 338
Clinton: 1224
see any pattern emerging?

 

[US&THEM]

So you think one party should have easier access to voting than the other?
Had the County clerk placed the drive through locations equally, it would mean little,
but by placing them in mostly democrat area, there appears to be bias.
Here is an example of his location selection, on the Southwest side of the county he choose Missouri City,
last election a precinct near that area (722), recorded the following votes,
Trump: 142
Clinton: 2306
North side precinct 894
Trump: 144
Clinton: 913
North East precinct 968
Trump: 106
Clinton: 450
East side precinct 80
Trump: 338
Clinton: 1224
see any pattern emerging?

This is not about the party voting.

 

[Napoleon]

LOL... Sorry it's not more convenient for you... I think you might like the kinds of voting changes the democrat led Texas house of representatives will propose next year. Vote blue all the way and thank you for your support...

This from the guy raising cane over the availability of Dropboxes?

 

[BlueTex]

This from the guy raising cane over the availability of Dropboxes?

Oh, I wanted lots of drop boxes, even ones close to longview... Why do you hate making voting easy?

 

[iguanaman]

Wanting to play by the same rules or at least manage them through the same democratic process we always have is somehow “attempting to fix the election” but bypassing the democratic process to change the rules and Frankenstein a patchwork of disparate rules at the eleventh hour is somehow not. We must have stepped through the looking glass.

"Getting rid of the ballots" is no way to run a fair election.

 

[Napoleon]

"Getting rid of the ballots" is no way to run a fair election.

Getting rid of ballots that are not cast by legal means or otherwise fail to meet legal requirements as defined by the State Legislature is SOP in every election. What isn’t is a random county clerk setting up his own little fiefdom and making up his own election law for the purpose of benefiting democrats. Is that fair?

 

[iguanaman]

Getting rid of ballots that are not cast by legal means or otherwise fail to meet legal requirements as defined by the State Legislature is SOP in every election. What isn’t is a random county clerk setting up his own little fiefdom and making up his own election law for the purpose of benefiting democrats. Is that fair?

There isn't any evidence that those ballots were cast illegally or are fraudulent in any way. Not counting them is unthinkable. Legislatures may not suppress the vote of the people. That is basic civics. Are you an American?

 

[Napoleon]

There isn't any evidence that those ballots were cast illegally or are fraudulent in any way. Not counting them is unthinkable. Legislatures may not suppress the vote of the people. That is basic civics. Are you an American?

Basic civics is that a county clerk doesn’t get to make up his own election law. The State Legislatures have sole authority to decide the method electors are chosen and how elections are conducted. Anything falling outside of that renders the ballots invalid unless they say otherwise.

 

[iguanaman]

So you think one party should have easier access to voting than the other?
Had the County clerk placed the drive through locations equally, it would mean little,
but by placing them in mostly democrat area, there appears to be bias.
Here is an example of his location selection, on the Southwest side of the county he choose Missouri City,
last election a precinct near that area (722), recorded the following votes,
Trump: 142
Clinton: 2306
North side precinct 894
Trump: 144
Clinton: 913
North East precinct 968
Trump: 106
Clinton: 450
East side precinct 80
Trump: 338
Clinton: 1224
see any pattern emerging?

Every city in Texas is mostly Democrats now. They are also in high density areas so the drive thru voting locations were placed where they could serve the most people.

 

[iguanaman]

Basic civics is that a county clerk doesn’t get to make up his own election law. The State Legislatures have sole authority to decide the method electors are chosen and how elections are conducted. Anything falling outside of that renders the ballots invalid unless they say otherwise.

Ballots are ballots and legislatures are bound by the courts decisions. Again basic civics. The courts are the sole authority not the legislature when it comes to voting rights.

 

[Napoleon]

Ballots are ballots and legislatures are bound by the courts decisions. Again basic civics. The courts are the sole authority not the legislature when it comes to voting rights.

The courts are not omnipotent. We have a separation of powers in this country or at least we’re supposed to. The courts are not empowered to create election law anymore than the county clerk. They are supposed to be bound by the law as passed by the legislature.

 

[iguanaman]

The courts are not omnipotent. We have a separation of powers in this country or at least we’re supposed to. The courts are not empowered to create election law anymore than the county clerk. They are supposed to be bound by the law as passed by the legislature.

There were no laws created and the courts are ruling on the validity of the ballots not how they were collected. You cannot disenfranchise voters because you don't like how they vote. This is America you know.

 

[Napoleon]

There were no laws created and the courts are ruling on the validity of the ballots not how they were collected. You cannot disenfranchise voters because you don't like how they vote. This is America you know.

You can’t honestly be claiming that the State Legislature did not create law on the manner and timeliness of casting ballots. No clerk or court can supplement State law with their own law. That is America.

 

[iguanaman]

You can’t honestly be claiming that the State Legislature did not create law on the manner and timeliness of casting ballots. No clerk or court can supplement State law with their own law. That is America.

This was nothing but a shameless way to disenfranchise legal voters. The SOS approved it, the county implemented it and only THEN did they try to have the duly cast votes thrown out. That fact that you support such behavior proves you are not an American anymore. Don't feel bad. Trump has done that to many others too. With a little therapy there is a good chance for a recovery.

Harris County Clerk Chris Hollins told Chron.com that he was encouraged by the voters' rights victory.
"I'm just happy for 127,000 people," Hollins said.
He also reassured Harris County voters that every drive-thru ballot will count.
"Drive-Thru Voting is a safe, secure and convenient way to vote," Hollins tweeted. 'Texas Election Code allows it, the Secretary of State approved it and 127,000 voters from all walks of life have used it."

Drive-thru voting was first created as an option for voters to cast their ballots safety during the COVID-19 pandemic, and that the plan was approved by the Texas Secretary of State's office.

https://www.chron.com/news/election...-voting-harris-county-republican-15694256.php

 

[BlueTex]

Getting rid of ballots that are not cast by legal means or otherwise fail to meet legal requirements as defined by the State Legislature is SOP in every election. What isn’t is a random county clerk setting up his own little fiefdom and making up his own election law for the purpose of benefiting democrats. Is that fair?

Unfortunately for the GOP, that’s not what happened..

 

[Napoleon]

This was nothing but a shameless way to disenfranchise legal voters. The SOS approved it, the county implemented it and only THEN did they try to have the duly cast votes thrown out. That fact that you support such behavior proves you are not an American anymore. Don't feel bad. Trump has done that to many others too. With a little therapy there is a good chance for a recovery.



https://www.chron.com/news/election...-voting-harris-county-republican-15694256.php

The only evidence presented to-date that the SOS approved this is Hollins’ say-so.