'Fed up’ crowd in Massachusetts swarms ICE agents attempting to arrest mother

[aociswundumho]

I'm fine with the civil disobedience to stand up for whatever you feel is right. But take the arrest, don't assault the police. Fight it in court not on the street.

What if that doesn't work? The courts are part of the state. Bad government means bad courts.

 

[Nickyjo]

When we get arrested by cops for suspicion of the most violent felonies, they are in unis, have badges, maybe even name tags. If not in uniform, they show ID or badge. In most instances, illegals are suspected of having committed a misdemeanor. Why the masks, the non identification, lack of uniforms by ICE agents?

 

[j brown's body]

When we get arrested by cops for suspicion of the most violent felonies, they are in unis, have badges, maybe even name tags. If not in uniform, they show ID or badge. In most instances, illegals are suspected of having committed a misdemeanor. Why the masks, the non identification, lack of uniforms by ICE agents?

They look an awful lot like white supremacists.

 

[ClaraD]

When we get arrested by cops for suspicion of the most violent felonies, they are in unis, have badges, maybe even name tags. If not in uniform, they show ID or badge. In most instances, illegals are suspected of having committed a misdemeanor. Why the masks, the non identification, lack of uniforms by ICE agents?

That is worrisome...what it makes me think is that they aren't actually federal officers and are vigilantes that have connection to ICE agents. It needs to be REQUIRED that they have identification and that they identify who they are on request.

 

[j brown's body]

What if that doesn't work? The courts are part of the state. Bad government means bad courts.

Its customary for authoritarian rules to attack an independent judiciary. If you concede an independent judiciary to be a good judiciary, you might should be concerned.

 

[aociswundumho]

Its customary for authoritarian rules to attack an independent judiciary.

No, it's customary for authoritarian states to control the judiciary.

If you concede an independent judiciary to be a good judiciary, you might should be concerned.

I am.

 

[Felis Leo]

Why do the proud government agents hide their faces like Proud Boys?

Those are not Proud Boys. The Proud Boys are fascists. The people pictured are a Patriot Front, a Neo-Nazi organization.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

When we get arrested by cops for suspicion of the most violent felonies, they are in unis, have badges, maybe even name tags. If not in uniform, they show ID or badge. In most instances, illegals are suspected of having committed a misdemeanor. Why the masks, the non identification, lack of uniforms by ICE agents?

I'm not familiar with ICE ever having had uniforms, all the way back to their inception. And people not in uniforms make arrests, including for the worst offenses, on a regular basis. The FBI, Secret Service, most state & local detectives, all wear plain clothes on the job. What's this sudden obsession with uniforms?

 

[Nickyjo]

I'm not familiar with ICE ever having had uniforms, all the way back to their inception. And people not in uniforms make arrests, including for the worst offenses, on a regular basis. The FBI, Secret Service, most state & local detectives, all wear plain clothes on the job. What's this sudden obsession with uniforms?

If you read my post, the absence of unis is not the issue, but the lack of identification.

 

[Grizzly Adams]

If you read my post, the absence of unis is not the issue, but the lack of identification.

I did read it. That's how I know you mentioned uniforms three times and in a manner that implied they are no less important than anything else you mentioned.

 

[Nickyjo]

I did read it. That's how I know you mentioned uniforms three times and in a manner that implied they are no less important than anything else you mentioned.

Don’t get your point: Uniforms are one of the things, along with ID’s and verbal communications that officials use to aid themselves to the public. The issue is letting those apprehended know who is taking them in and why, standard operating procedure. I used to live on the southern border, look Mexican to some, and hence was frequently stopped by INS (now ICE) agents in plain clothes. All of them said who they were and showed ID. Ditto the plainclothes cops who first pulled guns on me when I was suspected of planning to hijack struck.