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FBI Recommends No Charges Against Hillary Clinton for Use of Personal [W:234, 1861]

Re: clinton walks

She's toast, boys, just another sack of bones ready to be pitched into the Dumpster. Except for a couple dozen really peculiar people who don't have any place else to make friends but here, the rest of the world is headed toward Trump. Nobody, not even the most rabid, but sane, democrat, wants a piece of smelly garbage that would sell her country down the river. Nobody even wants to hear her voice. She's just another shrill, sick street walker who probably has some fairly regularly encountered social disease.

But, golly gee whiz, that's just my opinion, and what do I know?
 
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Boo Radley said:
No, not pure. But not Satan either. She didn't meet the high standard that had to reached to be charged. That's all.
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Navy engineer sentenced for mishandling classified material

On the same day that Comey made that claim the DOJ completed the sentencing phase of a case brought against a navy engineer for negligence in protecting classified information.

Comey's whole excuse for not suggesting DOJ action was being proven false as he said it.

But to make matters even worse, the first part of his speech invalidated his rationale in the second part of the speech.
 
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jimbo said:
I think there's an out on that. What Billy can't handle, Chelsea can. She can argue that she is not involved in the politics.

Scary, I know.

Vote Trump.
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I suppose that's likely, but really, I think a blind trust to shed a bright light on it would be better.

If Bill is first man, then I don't think he'll be able to continue with the Clinton Foundation as he has, he'll be in the White House again.
 
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You're really, really late to the party.

This has been discussed ad nauseum, and it not the same.

Ask ajn678 who got his ass handed to him.


lol
 
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I'm not sure you understand the purpose of secured government email servers. Using her .gov account would have ensured that the classified data remained off of public networks and away from potential external hackers.
 
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Paperview said:
You're really, really late to the party.

This has been discussed ad nauseum, and it not the same.

Ask ajn678 who got his ass handed to him.


lol
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I generally have you on ignore for a reason, so excuse me if I don't take your accounts of any such exchange as rational or objective.

I mean, you don't even seem to understand the difference between a home brew and a .gov mail server, sooooo....
 
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Paperview said:
Excepting for the part about State.gov servers known to be hacked by the Russians and Chinese.

That was my point.

I agree she was wrong to use her private server. That's not in question.
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OK. What I get when I pop into the middle of a conversation.
(But I still stand on my statement from a technical stand point).

Cheers!
 
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no, i will continue to insist that the difference between the two terms is "intent"

Carelessness refers to the lack of awareness during a behavior that results in the unintentional production of alternate consequences. The consequences of carelessness are often undesirable and tend to be mistakes
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[emphasis added by bubba]wiki

carelessness/extreme carelessness is not found to be intentional
gross negligence is an intentional disregard
 
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Anthony60 said:
Well, Hillary said she NEVER sent any classified emails. Comey said they found classified emails sent by her. So, you either believe she's lying, or he is. Which one do you believe?
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did Comey say hillary transmitted emails with the classification identifier affixed?
 
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TurtleDude said:
Ah poor Hillary fans-you are now pretending she didn't know the stuff was classified

LOL
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hillary has insisted she did not transmit emails with a classification identifier affixed
like the FBI, i accept her presentation until the FBI shows us otherwise
 
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justabubba said:
did Comey say hillary transmitted emails with the classification identifier affixed?
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Let's stop the BS and cut to the chase she lied, many times, over and over.


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missed that revelation. will continue to look for ... assuming such Comey statement exists
 
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jmotivator said:
I'm not sure you understand the purpose of secured government email servers. Using her .gov account would have ensured that the classified data remained off of public networks and away from potential external hackers.
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Colin Powell has some words for you.
 
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Paperview said:
Excepting for the part about State.gov servers known to be hacked by the Russians and Chinese.

That was my point.

I agree she was wrong to use her private server. That's not in question.
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You really really really don't understand what you are talking about.

Standard, non classified State.Gov email servers sit on the government NIPRnet which has access to the internet and makes it a target for hackers. That is why you are not supposed to, under federal law, put any classified data much less transmit any such data on a NIPRnet .gov account.

There is another network called SIPRnet, that is the secured government network, and is used for transmitting classified communication between cleared individuals. SIPR does not route to the internet as is therefor closed off from external hackers who have no way of accessing it. SIPR hacks would have to be internal, like Snowden.

So no, Russian and Chinese hackers have not compromised the classified .gov mail servers.

The only way Russians and Chinese get data meant for SIPR is when they have someone on the inside or when dumbasses put in on servers in their basement.
 
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Paperview said:
Colin Powell has some words for you.
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Collin Powell likely has no clue how the nuts and bolts of SIPR and NIPR function. I do.
 
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no. having a private server is not illegal
 
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Yeah. I understand it.

Quite well.

No one said the hackers compromised the classified network.

You're oblivious to the fact that sometimes, inadvertent and occasionally sensitive material makes it on unclassified .gov accounts. In most all corners of govt that deals with this stuff.

Derp.

Just emailing a publicly available NYT article about the drone program in a gov account is considered by some in the IC as Top Secret.

The whole world knows about it -- but it's classified in any .gov email accounts.
 
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jmotivator said:
Collin Powell likely has no clue how the nuts and bolts of SIPR and NIPR function. I do.
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You're wrong.

He did.

But sadz for you, in his unsecure AOL account he used for all his official business exclusively (off the secured system), some classified emails slipped through.

That was just in an FBI cursory check.

We'll never know how much was there --- cause he *poofed* the entirely of his SOS emails, and no one seems to care much about his transgressions.
 
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my speculation:
like hillary, he gets a free pass due to the absence of intent
extreme carelessness rather than an instance of gross negligence

but is he entitled to retain his security clearance. based on Comey's comments, i think not
 
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apdst said:
They were illegal when Clinton transmitted and stored top secret material on them.
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share your cite that tells us use/ownership/possession of private servers is illegal
 
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ajn678 said:
Intent is not what is required to bring indictment.
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Comey disagrees with you
 
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justabubba said:
Comey disagrees with you
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You obviously are clueless when it comes to the law. Comey in fact said that possible violations occurred, meaning it is possible she broke the law. But stated no prior indictment has happened due to careless behavior. If he thought she didn't break the law, he would have stated that no violations occurred.
 
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BWG said:
Without even thinking about it...


Social Security
Medicare/Medicaid/Healthcare
Voting rights
Fixing America’s infrastructure
Supreme court Justices
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let's get back to this prediction in four years
i believe you are being MUCH too optimistic
 
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