"Social constructs" are highly subjective - which is why we have a democracy - it is just too bad our democracy failed us due to corruption and manipulation.
As I do not believe you recognized the 'Monk' reference, and you made no attempt to fake such, I believe this debate is over.
Good day.
The "FEMA Camp" people live in the same ignorant paranoia as the chem trails and NWO, etc conspiroland.
Yes, so true. All someone has to do is plant a conspiracy theory, keep repeating it over and over, and people lick it up. Mostly the sheepie.
I wasn't there when they tried to round up cattle, but when militias show up and threaten government people with resistance by the use of firearms, or putting other people in the way of the confrontation, I'm almost positive photographs were taken of the people protesting, and now might be going into being investigated.
This should come as no surprise to anyone, this could have been predicted the day after their little standoff.
If they're (FBI) doing this, it's going to create sort of a diversion while they might detain or arrest some militia members, and a possible imminent Bundy arrest. Whenever a law enforcement agency widens the scope of an investigation, people get trapped into the net.
I'm done here myself for right now...
I'm tired of arguing with people.
You are tired of arguing with sane people...
You are tired of arguing with sane people...
I concur Janet Reno is an idiot. When you read the 9-11 Commision Report and weigh all the evidence it was Janet Reno who ****ed up big time and her actions allowed 9-11 to happen.
But I digress.
The former ATAF Resident Agent for Orange County, Ca. during the 1980's was a acquaintance of mine. There was no problem with the ATAF back then. They got along with sportsmen, gun owners and gun shop owners. Then they overnight seemed to have been politicized in 1993 and became Gestapo like.
Except when the people who are telling the fed to "**** off" are doing so while pointing guns at the Feds, that is called threatening violence against government agents. That my friend is a crime.
Kind of like lefty anti war protester telling cops or even state National Guard troops to **** off while throwing rocks and bottles.
I'm pretty sure I caught your reference or "pun" or "implication."
It's not illegal to point a gun at someone. Besides, can you really blame them? they're standing up for their rights (both civil and property)....
Also, maybe if the FBI just left them alone they wouldn't have guns pointed at them? ever think about that?
Actually it is a crime to point a firearm at someone in Nevada even if its unloaded. And no they are not just standing up for their rights.
Or, you know, don't point your gun at anything you aren't going to shoot.So, here it comes....Round 2.
And in true authoritarian style, a full propaganda effort will accompany the suppression of any possible uprising to ensure that the sheep soaking up the reports will know who "the bad guy" is supposed to be....
Remember Orwell.....OBEY!
What's a "CON"?Classic CON game... the armed confrontation was defused by the Feds. The armed 'militia' that guarded a free loading, lying, criminal should be investigated.
Can't wait for the CON screams about another 'WACO' to start puking up... :roll:
Now imagine a small group of Muslim Americans had been using federal lands/buildings for 20 some years rent free even as a series of court orders told them to desist. Imagine that when the feds FINALLY move in to evict these free loading bums an Islamic 'militia' shows up from outside the state, armed and proclaiming they are there to fight to Government. Go on TV saying they will put women to the front, and be on film as occupying prone, bipod supported overwatch positions.
Would the CONs still be supportive and sling claims of 'another Ruby Ridge setting up' ????
What's a "CON"?
I think it's not really accurate to call him a leech... i mean, I suppose he does owe some fees, but let's not pretend the government actually does anything with that land... they most assuredly do not.... they don't put any money into that land at all.... they don't care for it, they don't maintain it, they don't set foot on it.
absentee landlord is an apt term
we natives knew something was going on out in that area in the early 90's.. lo and behold, most of the ranchers out there are gone now.
when the put in a big ol hiway interchange in the middle of nowhere, you know the the usual suspects are planning on cashing in on something.
the only time anything is done with BLM land is when a ranking politician come up with a corrupt scheme to sell it to his crony developers ( foreign and domestic), or buy it... to make his own money off it.
I'm a Nevada native... that **** is done all the time.
Harry Reid isn't the first corrupt Nevada politician to get rich on such schemes... and he won't be the last
but for some odd reason, folks are oh-so worried about cows eating scrub brush off of land nobody gives a **** about.
You're no libertarian - your avatar is of Romney for ****s sake!
You may not care for Bundy the man but that's not the point. The point is government overreaction to what is a problem easily resolved. The Feds have recently begun to send SWAT teams in for any minor grievance and, finally, a bill has been introduced to put some sort of control over the groups and the bureaucrats who authorize them.
Or, you know, don't point your gun at anything you aren't going to shoot.
Remember that guy up on the bridge pointing his rifle at the general crowd? He belongs in prison for that, charged with one count of reckless endangerment per person in that crowd.
It use to be called "open range." It's an American thing.
I deal with the BLM and it's Rangers all of the time. Personally I've never had a problem with the BLM. I'm aware of a few real ass hole Rangers.
But I've never met a rancher who hasn't been ****ed around by the BLM.
I'm against the FBI ****ing with people....
The FBI isn't investigating a crime - they're flexing their muscles.
Since you insist a crime has taken place, what crime is it? contempt of government???
Or, you know, don't point your gun at anything you aren't going to shoot.
Remember that guy up on the bridge pointing his rifle at the general crowd? He belongs in prison for that, charged with one count of reckless endangerment per person in that crowd.
Ok, I'll agree with that. But in honesty how do we know that he is even part of any militia? He could have been just a stooge friend of the photographer used for staged propaganda.
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