Father of Michigan school shooter found guilty of manslaughter weeks after mother’s conviction

[Spock]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/14/us/james-crumbley-manslaughter-trial-thursday/index.html

James Crumbley, the father of the teenager who killed four students at a Michigan high school in 2021, was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in a trial that comes a month after the shooter’s mother was convicted of the same charges.

Crumbley was convicted of four counts of involuntary manslaughter, a charge that carries a maximum punishment of up to 15 years in prison, which would run concurrently.

Jury deliberations that concluded Thursday came more than two years after his son, Ethan Crumbley, then 15, used a SIG Sauer 9mm to kill four students and wound six students and a teacher at Oxford High School on November 30, 2021....

 

[SMTA]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/14/us/james-crumbley-manslaughter-trial-thursday/index.html

James Crumbley, the father of the teenager who killed four students at a Michigan high school in 2021, was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in a trial that comes a month after the shooter’s mother was convicted of the same charges.

Crumbley was convicted of four counts of involuntary manslaughter, a charge that carries a maximum punishment of up to 15 years in prison, which would run concurrently.

Jury deliberations that concluded Thursday came more than two years after his son, Ethan Crumbley, then 15, used a SIG Sauer 9mm to kill four students and wound six students and a teacher at Oxford High School on November 30, 2021....

Proper verdict.
Parental accountability is a good thing.

 

[Grand Mal]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/14/us/james-crumbley-manslaughter-trial-thursday/index.html

James Crumbley, the father of the teenager who killed four students at a Michigan high school in 2021, was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in a trial that comes a month after the shooter’s mother was convicted of the same charges.

Crumbley was convicted of four counts of involuntary manslaughter, a charge that carries a maximum punishment of up to 15 years in prison, which would run concurrently.

Jury deliberations that concluded Thursday came more than two years after his son, Ethan Crumbley, then 15, used a SIG Sauer 9mm to kill four students and wound six students and a teacher at Oxford High School on November 30, 2021....

Good call. Whenever a minor gets hands on a gun and commits a crime with it whoever was/were responsible for the security of the firearm is equally guilty.

 

[Phys251]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/14/us/james-crumbley-manslaughter-trial-thursday/index.html

James Crumbley, the father of the teenager who killed four students at a Michigan high school in 2021, was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in a trial that comes a month after the shooter’s mother was convicted of the same charges.

Crumbley was convicted of four counts of involuntary manslaughter, a charge that carries a maximum punishment of up to 15 years in prison, which would run concurrently.

Jury deliberations that concluded Thursday came more than two years after his son, Ethan Crumbley, then 15, used a SIG Sauer 9mm to kill four students and wound six students and a teacher at Oxford High School on November 30, 2021....

Good.

 

[OrphanSlug]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/14/us/james-crumbley-manslaughter-trial-thursday/index.html

James Crumbley, the father of the teenager who killed four students at a Michigan high school in 2021, was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in a trial that comes a month after the shooter’s mother was convicted of the same charges.

Crumbley was convicted of four counts of involuntary manslaughter, a charge that carries a maximum punishment of up to 15 years in prison, which would run concurrently.

Jury deliberations that concluded Thursday came more than two years after his son, Ethan Crumbley, then 15, used a SIG Sauer 9mm to kill four students and wound six students and a teacher at Oxford High School on November 30, 2021....

This is the outcome we needed to see.

 

[Jessie C]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/14/us/james-crumbley-manslaughter-trial-thursday/index.html

James Crumbley, the father of the teenager who killed four students at a Michigan high school in 2021, was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in a trial that comes a month after the shooter’s mother was convicted of the same charges.

Crumbley was convicted of four counts of involuntary manslaughter, a charge that carries a maximum punishment of up to 15 years in prison, which would run concurrently.

Jury deliberations that concluded Thursday came more than two years after his son, Ethan Crumbley, then 15, used a SIG Sauer 9mm to kill four students and wound six students and a teacher at Oxford High School on November 30, 2021....

And justice for 4 families is served. Let this be notice to all of these parents who think they aren't responsible when their kids kill innocent people.

 

[SMTA]

Fascinating how every poster here has rendered an opinion except for the OP.

 

[Spock]

Fascinating how every poster here has rendered an opinion except for the OP.

Firearm owners and parents of children that get guns have been excused from the firearm epidemic in America and it is time that stopped.

 

[marduc]

Fascinating how every poster here has rendered an opinion except for the OP.

And you.

It certainly seems that both parents were grossly negligent from what I have seen, but I was not on the jury and dod not have the full.picture to render a fair assessment.

 

[SMTA]

And you.

It certainly seems that both parents were grossly negligent from what I have seen, but I was not on the jury and dod not have the full.picture to render a fair assessment.

Bullshit.
Read my post again.

 

[SMTA]

Firearm owners and parents of children that get guns have been excused from the firearm epidemic in America and it is time that stopped.

This is a primarily a people issue, specifically a family dynamic & accountability issue.
Arbitrarily trashing firearm owners is inappropriate.

 

[marduc]

Bullshit.
Read my post again.

I missed your original post and just responded to what I read, my apologies.

 

[MamboDervish]

Father of Michigan school shooter found guilty of manslaughter weeks after mother’s conviction​

We'll never know how many future shootings by kids these verdicts might prevent, but it's nice to imagine they will have a profound impact. This is the kind of story any responsible main stream media will make sure is widely disseminated from coast to coast. The more parents who hear it, the better the results.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/14/us/james-crumbley-manslaughter-trial-thursday/index.html

James Crumbley, the father of the teenager who killed four students at a Michigan high school in 2021, was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in a trial that comes a month after the shooter’s mother was convicted of the same charges.

Crumbley was convicted of four counts of involuntary manslaughter, a charge that carries a maximum punishment of up to 15 years in prison, which would run concurrently.

Jury deliberations that concluded Thursday came more than two years after his son, Ethan Crumbley, then 15, used a SIG Sauer 9mm to kill four students and wound six students and a teacher at Oxford High School on November 30, 2021....

Hopefully, both parents will be maxed out at sentencing.

 

[Spock]

This is a primarily a people issue, specifically a family dynamic & accountability issue.
Arbitrarily trashing firearm owners is inappropriate.

Nope. This problem is directly a consequence of the attitudes towards firearms that are prevalent in our society. Few, if any states, penalize parents for insecure storage (primarily because NRA wants to promote easy access to loaded guns in homes for security).

 

[SMTA]

I missed your original post and just responded to what I read, my apologies.

No harm, no foul.
Accepted!

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Firearm owners and parents of children that get guns have been excused from the firearm epidemic in America and it is time that stopped.

Scapegoating “firearms owners” as having any responsibility for the epidemic of killings by juveniles/mass shooting murders in America is crap.

Put the blame where it actually belongs, with people like the Crumbley’s and others that have been criminally negligent or criminally indulgent.

 

[SMTA]

Nope. This problem is directly a consequence of the attitudes towards firearms that are prevalent in our society. Few, if any states, penalize parents for insecure storage (primarily because NRA wants to promote easy access to loaded guns in homes for security).

The government needs to stay the **** out of our business.
People in this country who own guns are not at the beck and call of the NRA.
I don’t care about the opinion of the NRA for anything.
You need to actually educate yourself before passing judgement upon others.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Nope. This problem is directly a consequence of the attitudes towards firearms that are prevalent in our society. Few, if any states, penalize parents for insecure storage (primarily because NRA wants to promote easy access to loaded guns in homes for security).

Actually, a bare majority of states do have laws that penalize those that fail to properly secure firearms in homes with minors.

Secure Storage or Child Access Prevention Required

Secure storage laws prevent unauthorized access by requiring gun owners to lock up their firearms. States should require secure storage of firearms.

everytownresearch.org

Should be every state.

 

[Jessie C]

Hopefully, both parents will be maxed out at sentencing.

I heard today Jennifer Crumbley is facing 15 years, I would assume her husband will receive the same sentence. Just don't let them out early for good behaviour. 4 teens are dead because of their lousy parenting.

 

[Spock]

The government needs to stay the **** out of our business.
People in this country who own guns are not at the beck and call of the NRA.
I don’t care about the opinion of the NRA for anything.
You need to actually educate yourself before passing judgement upon others.

Here is the important facts for you to consider:
The USA has the highest firearm violence rate of all developed countries, by far:

On gun violence, the United States is an outlier | Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation

When we look exclusively at high-income countries and territories with populations of 10 million or more, the US ranks first for its high levels of gun violence.

www.healthdata.org

 

[SMTA]

Here is the important facts for you to consider:
The USA has the highest firearm violence rate of all developed countries, by far:

On gun violence, the United States is an outlier | Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation

When we look exclusively at high-income countries and territories with populations of 10 million or more, the US ranks first for its high levels of gun violence.

www.healthdata.org

So what?
There are to many self-centered morons here who don’t respect others.
Next.

 

[Spock]

So what?
There are to many self-centered morons here who don’t respect others.
Next.

You are demonstrating the worst of gun owner behaviors-- denial.

 

[dseag2]

The kid's parents bought the gun for him despite his clear mental issues. They should be locked up. Good.

 

[Spock]

Actually, a bare majority of states do have laws that penalize those that fail to properly secure firearms in homes with minors.

Secure Storage or Child Access Prevention Required

Secure storage laws prevent unauthorized access by requiring gun owners to lock up their firearms. States should require secure storage of firearms.

everytownresearch.org

Should be every state.

The situation is a bit nuanced. 16 states do not penalize gun owner until AFTER child accesses firearm. Only 10 require locked storage pre-emptively.
Of some interest only 13 states require reporting of stolen or missing firearms to law enforcement.