....Ironic...Barry's favorite tactic...denial.no wonder he never pursued law but chose public service instead.use this tactic couple of times and u in contempt of court in a heartbeat....again u are taking stated purpose of eo on faith,denying without refuting the posibillity of a different purpose.you refute by demonstrating.
still no evidence that this new EO will allow martial law and nationalization of peoples' pantries.
like I said, there is nothing to refute OR deny.....except for baseless speculation and paranoia.
Anything other than nuh-uh to add? Lastly, it's not baseless as I already showed - it's all in the interpretation and perspective.
a highly biased and agenda-driven interpretation & perspective, you mean.
It is evident to those with their eyes open. The. Eo also addresses ''work without compensation''and.......draft.Anything other than nuh-uh to add? Lastly, it's not baseless as I already showed - it's all in the interpretation and perspective.
As highly biased and agenda-driven of an interpretation and perspective as saying there's nothing there. :shrug:
Sorry you feel that way.
What about laws against "hoarding" in an emergency? If that isn't nationalizing your personal pantry, what is?
this order does nothing to give a POTUS dictatorial powers in the event of an emergency, nor the power to "seize everything".
basically, this is just another chicken-little paranoia Conspiracy Theory thread.
Well, that's not entirely accurate.
There is hereby established the Office of Censorship, at the head of which
"December 19, 1941"?!?!? 12 days after Japan bombed Pearl Harbor. :lamoWell, that's not entirely accurate.
There is hereby established the Office of Censorship, at the head of which
"December 19, 1941"?!?!? 12 days after Japan bombed Pearl Harbor. :lamo
Then explain it better.Neither you, nor Mustachio even get the point. Do you? It's all good, bro.
A ton of people have been arguing over the detention provisions in the 2012 NDAA and the language in HR 347, but in these debates the entire point seems to be lost. The point being that our concern should be our ongoing problems with the war on terror. And by problems, I mean the indefinite detention of terrorism suspects, mostly in Guantanamo Bay, and the ongoing conflict in the middle east that's threatening to continue or even possibly expand.
When we start throwing around conspiracy theories about the government trying to throw American protesters into FEMA camps, we get further away from the legitimate discussions we should be having.
Interesting. Neither John Turley or Glenn Greenwald is a conspiracy theorist...
believing in paranoid & ignorant conspiracy theories, makes one a conspiracy theorist.
Laws against "hoarding" are not nationalizing your pantry because that's not what the word nationalizing means.
Well, that's not entirely accurate.
There is hereby established the Office of Censorship, at the head of which
How is it a conspiracy theory when they give complete proof, citing the language in the bills themselves?....
its a conspiracy theory because he is proposing a plot by the govt. to enact martial law and steal peoples' pantries.
Sec. 502. Consultants. The head of each agency otherwise delegated functions under this order is delegated the authority of the President under sections 710(b) and (c) of the Act, 50 U.S.C. App. 2160(b), (c), to employ persons of outstanding experience and ability without compensation and to employ experts, consultants, or organizations. The authority delegated by this section may not be redelegated.
They changed the section number bit other than that what am I missing?New guy here. I was debating this EO with a family member and came across this forum in my research. I have read the entire bill, and honestly I don't see anything outside of what I would consider proper planning. Except for Section 502.
It seems this was one of items updated from this version
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/pdf/12919.pdf
I would be interested in hearing why you think they changed that section, in particular the "without compensation" part.
Sec. 602. Consultants. The head of each department or agency assigned functions under this order is delegated authority under sections 710(b) and (c) of the Act to employ persons of outstanding experience and ability without compensation and to employ experts, consultants, or organizations. The authority delegated by this section shall not be redelegated.
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