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Exclusive: DOJ, FBI conclude Epstein had no "client list," committed suicide


President Trump's Justice Department and FBI have concluded they have no evidence that convicted sex offender and disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein blackmailed powerful figures, kept a "client list" or was murdered, according to a memo detailing the findings obtained by Axios.

The administration is releasing a video — in both raw and "enhanced" versions — that it says indicates no one entered the area of the Manhattan prison where Epstein was held the night he died in 2019.




Definitely an interesting development. Pam Bondi is exposed as a liar, the Trump administration saves face, and Elon Musk is proven wrong.

Trump wins. Woooooh!

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MAGA world has been mostly about conspiracy theories since 2015.
Is this news a surprise??

Lot of egg on a lot of faces that trump added to his administration. They are all looking like fools. Courtesy of the greatest fool of them all.

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Kash Patel, now FBI director, told conservative podcaster Benny Johnson in 2023 that the list was being kept secret "because of who’s on that list."


"Put on your big boy pants and let us know who the pedophiles are," Patel said at the time.

Dan Bongino, former conservative podcaster who Trump named deputy FBI director, said in a May 2023 podcast, "That Jeffrey Epstein story is a big deal. Please do not let that story go. Keep your eye on it."
 
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Just imagine if Trump himself was implicated by Epsteins records? Wouldn't this be the 'perfect' way to stop calls for further investigations, and Trumps potential exposure? With this Trump administration being lead by carefully selected sycophants, nothing they say like this is actually believable unfortunately.
If that were true, Biden should've released it.
Then trump likely would not have won. Why didn't Biden release the list?
 
Posted in one of the many other threads on this topic. Maybe the mods will merge.

"It is what it is. Just another example in as little as 2 weeks (Diddy verdicts) on how women have made very little headway in America. They still are viewed as sexual objects best kept silent, barefoot and pregnant."
MAGA.

Well more than MAGA. No woman has ever won the presidency. 2 have tried. trump beat them both.
 
Bongino, long time actual propaganda peddler for $$$.

Cult45/47 hung on to his every word as gospel because they loved what he was selling, bringing him even more $$$.
The new Alex Jones.
Take the biggest news and lie lie lie about the results.

Conspiracy theorists are loyal to the core.
 
I'm too lazy to try to find the post right now, but I'm pretty sure I'm on the record as stating that there never has been an "Epstein list." It never made sense to begin with.

The problem for Trump is his base is made up almost entirely of the same brainless Q-adjacent conspiracy nutbars who are all-in on the "Epstein list" conspiracy, and Trump just played entirely into their hands.
I would have bet that if there is NO list, the Biden admin would've publicly stated that.
I know it wasn't much of an issue at the time. But it was before Biden became president and was going to be again in the 2024 campaign.

The fact that no side ever said there is no list, until now, suggests there is a list. And no one in power in either party want it released.

Epstein made his money by blackmail.
 
Elon Musk was there for the death of Epstein? Or in any way related to it?

How? Make that make sense?
Come on, stop the silliness. No one who isn't a corrections officer is going to be anywhere near Epstein's cell in the middle of the night. Pretty lame attempt at twisting my words. All I said was that Musk's proximity to Trump and his inner circle, as well as the access DOGE had to all federal agencies, put him in a position to hear and see many things that anyone who had not been elected or formally appointed should be allowed to see or hear. Also, Musk didn’t say anything about “a list”. What he said is that Trump’s name appears in the “Epstein files”.
False. Multiple investigations not performed by her found the same evidence.

Of course she's a liar. Which is why she lied about there being a list.
:ROFLMAO: False! Bondi has performed exactly zero investigations into Epstein, and preceding investigations produced a compiled 'list' of about 150 people gleaned from multiple court documents who had either direct connections with Epstein, or had traveled on his jet, or visited his Palm Beach or Caribbean Island residences.
Zero investigations found a list. The gullible believe some person, who has proven to lie, over multiple streams of evidence.
Trump, Patel, Bongino, and Bondi have all implied the existence of a 'list' containing bombshell revelations. Now that the worm has turned, all of a sudden, they don't want to talk about it anymore. This is an issue of their own making. And talk about being gullible, here you are conceding that Bondi is a proven liar. But yet on this one point, you say she can now be believed. That makes no sense whatsoever. Either she's credible or she isn't. Period.
Of course it was the same evidence. Nothing had been held back or kept secret - all the evidence is out there.
Everyone familiar with the case says that not all the files have been released. If what Bondi said is true, that these files contain no additional evidence that justifies pursuing any third-party charges, there shouldn't be any problem in releasing the files in their entirety, correct?
There is no secret list. Never was. Epstein never blackmailed people he hung out with. Bondi lied.
You or anyone else can't possibly know that for certain if Bondi is a liar. And the way Trump, Bondi, the DOJ, and the way White House spokespersons are so vigorously attempting to deflect or squash any further questions or discussion about Epstein and the files only invites further scrutiny, as that only makes it seem they have something to hide.
 
What he said is that Trump’s name appears in the “Epstein files”.
But we knew that already...

As you posted below.
:ROFLMAO: False! Bondi has performed exactly zero investigations into Epstein, and preceding investigations produced a compiled 'list' of about 150 people gleaned from multiple court documents who had either direct connections with Epstein, or had traveled on his jet, or visited his Palm Beach or Caribbean Island residences.
For sure. And that list was released by... Trump.
This is an issue of their own making. And talk about being gullible, here you are conceding that Bondi is a proven liar.
She is. Why do you defend her?

But yet on this one point, you say she can now be believed. That makes no sense whatsoever. Either she's credible or she isn't. Period.
She isn't. Which is why no one with an IQ above room temp believes in a list.
Everyone familiar with the case says that not all the files have been released. If what Bondi said is true, that these files contain no additional evidence that justifies pursuing any third-party charges, there shouldn't be any problem in releasing the files in their entirety, correct?
The files contain identifying information on victims of Epsteins sexual abuse. These victims would prefer to remain anonymous and not have their lives ripped apart worse than they already have.

Releasing their information would re victimize them.

Of course you aee no problem with that.

You or anyone else can't possibly know that for certain if Bondi is a liar.
For sure I do.

Stop defending her.

And the way Trump, Bondi, the DOJ, and the way White House spokespersons are so vigorously attempting to deflect or squash any further questions or discussion about Epstein and the files only invites further scrutiny, as that only makes it seem they have something to hide.
They are clearly protecting Biden, who hid the files.
 
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