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Evidence for the Bible / God [W536; 634]

AlbqOwl said:
I already have fired away and would invite you to comment on any of my previous posts.
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Darn site easier for you to just post this evidence again. IN YOUR OWN WORDS though, I don't want a link to some drivel website.
 
Logicman said:
Skeptics critiquing the scriptures and Biblical evidences is like asking the devil about Jesus Christ.
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Sodality minister's asserting the scriptures and Biblical evidences is like asking a Christian about creationism. Pointless.

AT least the links that i provided intellectually addressed Josh McDowells claims. Unlike you who probably never questioned his claims at all.
 
Logicman said:
Your buddy Dawkins is probably in the Pit by now for being so stupid about God. And according to Scripture he's going to have a lot of like-minded company in the years ahead.
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showing your god to be evil doesn't make it real

though now I want to refer to Yahweh as he who must not be named
 
FreedomFromAll said:
Sodality minister's asserting the scriptures and Biblical evidences is like asking a Christian about creationism. Pointless.

AT least the links that i provided intellectually addressed Josh McDowells claims. Unlike you who probably never questioned his claims at all.
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Listen, any theological /historical work will always have its critics. Atheist critic Dawkins has his, and so on. It never ends no matter what side of the aisle you're on.

If you really want to present a good argument for yourself try your hand at busting the resurrection.
 
Logicman said:
That's your argument, not mine.
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more like my interpretation of your argument

you would be hard pressed to make your god sound any more evil if you tried

you could maybe make your god sound a little less real if you tried
 
Tim the plumber said:
Darn site easier for you to just post this evidence again. IN YOUR OWN WORDS though, I don't want a link to some drivel website.
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Easier for you I guess. Not easier for me. I already did the work. So the ball is in your court if you care enough to have a problem with it.
 
Logicman said:
That's your argument, not mine.
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still waiting on your explanation on how murdering and enslaving people and taking their property for yourself in response to some child sacrifice can be done for justice when your punishing the incent as well as would be victims and the guilty
 
blarg said:
still waiting on your explanation on how murdering and enslaving people and taking their property for yourself in response to some child sacrifice can be done for justice when your punishing the incent as well as would be victims and the guilty
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What makes you think I want to feed your folly?
 
Logicman said:
Did you have a refutation of the resurrection to bless us with?
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can you show any one ever got up after being nailed to a cross stabbed with a spear and then left for dead in a tomb for 3 days

not saying it did not happen but can you even show that it can?
 
Logicman said:
Tsk tsk...

You saying the Canaanites who sacrificed their babies and engaged in many other horrific practices should be allowed to keep their land and not face justice? Even the Jews lost their land for a time for some of the same reasons.
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so how's indiscriminate murder enslavement and theft of property forced on people who did not hurt any child and even on children themselves justice for some one scarfing children? im still quite confused about that

hell how it justice if the people who did it though that the gods demanded it and only did so to protect their people? but you know what just answer the 1st question for now if you like we can get to this one after
 
blarg said:
so how's indiscriminate murder enslavement and theft of property forced on people who did not hurt any child and even on children themselves justice for some one scarfing children? im still quite confused about that

hell how it justice if the people who did it though that the gods demanded it and only did so to protect their people? but you know what just answer the 1st question for now if you like we can get to this one after
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Have you read and studied the Bible? Doesn't sound like it. The answer is in it.
 
blarg said:
can you show any one ever got up after being nailed to a cross stabbed with a spear and then left for dead in a tomb for 3 days

not saying it did not happen but can you even show that it can?
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But in the Christian belief, Jesus was both human--he could suffer pain, bleed, and die as any other human--and God. Since he was totally unique in that respect, we don't have anybody like him to use for a comparison. But there is evidence reflected in the New Testament, that the tomb was empty on the third day after he died, and there is evidence reflected in the New Testament that a number of different people saw him quite alive and well beginning the third day after the crucifixion. And there are non-Biblical references providing information that others outside the New Testament manuscripts were aware of these witnesses which would suggest they were not made up by somebody inventing a religion.

Conclusive evidence beyond any reasonable doubt? Of course not. But definitely evidence that deserves to be entered into the record.
 
AlbqOwl said:
But in the Christian belief, Jesus was both human--he could suffer pain, bleed, and die as any other human--and God. Since he was totally unique in that respect, we don't have anybody like him to use for a comparison. But there is evidence reflected in the New Testament, that the tomb was empty on the third day after he died, and there is evidence reflected in the New Testament that a number of different people saw him quite alive and well beginning the third day after the crucifixion. And there are non-Biblical references providing information that others outside the New Testament manuscripts were aware of these witnesses which would suggest they were not made up by somebody inventing a religion.

Conclusive evidence beyond any reasonable doubt? Of course not. But definitely evidence that deserves to be entered into the record.
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so the accounts that need to give Jesus magical powers to make the religion work did so
 
Logicman said:
Have you read and studied the Bible? Doesn't sound like it. The answer is in it.
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been a while but iv read part of exodus stopped after a few slaughters the answer I found was the god in the book was evil maybe made up maybe not but evil either way

if you have a different answer form another chapter or verse you can post it if you like

you claim justice was being handed out and you refuse to explain the bits that don't seem just in the story
 
Logicman said:
You don't know squat about the resurrection, so get another argument.
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you don't seem to know about it either how it worked how to show it can work or has ever worked you just seem to know peoples story's that it did

which gives no reason to believe it did
 
blarg said:
so the accounts that need to give Jesus magical powers to make the religion work did so
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Either that or Jesus was God. I'm going with the evidence that he was/is God.
 
AlbqOwl said:
Either that or Jesus was God. I'm going with the evidence that he was/is God.
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which is the texts that say he is so you will live like the authors wanted you to

propaganda we know is real

gods not so much

so what evidence do we have for gods

the logic says that they must exist arguments all seem to eat them selves
 
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