EagleAye
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I disagree, it's not that easy, we all have loved ones and other obligations that must be honored.It should be up to the patient regardless, they shouldn't have to justify their desire to die to anyone for any reason.
I disagree, it's not that easy, we all have loved ones and other obligations that must be honored.
Sometimes mental illness can cause people to have inappropriate desires which can include self-destruction. I don't think that an otherwise healthy young person should be "allowed" to end their life.It should be up to the patient regardless, they shouldn't have to justify their desire to die to anyone for any reason.
I'd never ask someone who loved me. Seems like a terrible memory to leave them with.
What's to botch? Kill them. If they don't die, kill them again until you get it right. When the time comes, I would prefer that it come by the hand of friends instead of strangers.
I understand both your points. I could never ask someone close to me to do it, but I also understand wanting to be there for someone close to me, if that makes sense. Now, even though I wouldn't ask, it would be of great comfort to me if someone did stay with me and "help" or just comfort me emotionally.I held my father's hand while he died. If there was anything I could have done to ease his passing, I'd have done so without a moment's hesitation.I'd never ask someone who loved me. Seems like a terrible memory to leave them with.
What about the coercion involved in forcing them to survive?
Seriously. How cruel is that? We have the common decency to kill a horse when it's mortally wounded. Why can't we permit this for humans?
Well, if the whole point of killing yourself was to avoid a much more painful death down the road (say from cancer or something), then if whoever is doing it screws something up and makes it very painful for you, I'd consider that botched.
I held my father's hand while he died. If there was anything I could have done to ease his passing, I'd have done so without a moment's hesitation.
This is a valid concern, Eagle, but so is Kandahar's.
Then why not spend the money on making their lives less painful. Give them all the painkillers they need, work on pain to conquer that, work on being kinder to one another for the several other reasons people want to die, like depression and loneliness. Why are we in such a hurry to legalize killing rather than making living the better option?If people want to die they should be able to, especially if they're in a painful situation.
Then why not spend the money on making their lives less painful. Give them all the painkillers they need, work on pain to conquer that, work on being kinder to one another for the several other reasons people want to die, like depression and loneliness. Why are we in such a hurry to legalize killing rather than making living the better option?
There ya go, thats what makes the entire argument kind of moot...anyone can end their life at the time of their choosing basically....the only question is should the law allow them to be assisted in achieving their goal.
Then why not spend the money on making their lives less painful. Give them all the painkillers they need, work on pain to conquer that, work on being kinder to one another for the several other reasons people want to die, like depression and loneliness. Why are we in such a hurry to legalize killing rather than making living the better option?
I'd just as soon skip the last trip to the hospital--but not the second to last one.The other day, there was a passing in my town, where it was made obvious in the obituary that the deceased chose this route, to die surrounded by family and loved ones, laughing and joking until the end. That is so much better to me, than the death my uncle suffered. Alone in the middle of the night, because his family had gone home to rest that evening.
Are people really wanting to, what, force doctors to kill people?
Are people really wanting to, what, force doctors to kill people?
"Force," is completely the wrong word. "Dignity," for the dying is more appropriate.
Not exactly. But lay people have no legal access to deadly drugs in the US, at least painless ones, without a prescription.
There's a bigger controversy over such things as removing a feeding tube once it's been inserted, etc. I don't think anyone here is insensitive to the ethics of medical people.
No? You're not arguing that doctors be compelled to end someone's life?
Well, I'll be honest, I haven't read every post in this thread. The ones I've seen so far have not even considered the beliefs and/or morals of medical care providers.
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