European support for Ukraine in the war could end Sunday

[Craig234]

A danger you might not have heard much about. Rachel reports on a top neo-Nazi's daughter, who agrees with his views, being one of the two candidates for the French presidency - again - on Sunday.

The polls are closer than last time.

She has previously promised to take France out of the EU, to block EU measures to sanction Putin, including measures to stop buying Russian fuel that, well, fuels the war.

In 2017 - the year after Putin helped trump win - he did the same thing in France, giving money to her, hacking Macron's campaign and publishing the hack to try to hurt him. Because public opinion is against Putin now, she's having to destroy over a million pamphlets about her close ties to him.

In short, she could win on Sunday, and if she does - the EU measures take unanimous support and she will end them. This is the biggest threat to Ukraine's fight against Putin currently. An anonymous EU leader said, he can't believe France would vote for her, but he couldn't believe the US would vote for trump of the UK would vote for Brexit.

 

[Emily L]

I'm confident that the French will be smarter than that.

But that's just me.

 

[FreedomFromAll]

A danger you might not have heard much about. Rachel reports on a top neo-Nazi's daughter, who agrees with his views, being one of the two candidates for the French presidency - again - on Sunday.

The polls are closer than last time.

She has previously promised to take France out of the EU, to block EU measures to sanction Putin, including measures to stop buying Russian fuel that, well, fuels the war.

In 2017 - the year after Putin helped trump win - he did the same thing in France, giving money to her, hacking Macron's campaign and publishing the hack to try to hurt him. Because public opinion is against Putin now, she's having to destroy over a million pamphlets about her close ties to him.

In short, she could win on Sunday, and if she does - the EU measures take unanimous support and she will end them. This is the biggest threat to Ukraine's fight against Putin currently. An anonymous EU leader said, he can't believe France would vote for her, but he couldn't believe the US would vote for trump of the UK would vote for Brexit.

None of that is little known. In fact, it is front and center.

 

[btthegreat]

A danger you might not have heard much about. Rachel reports on a top neo-Nazi's daughter, who agrees with his views, being one of the two candidates for the French presidency - again - on Sunday.

The polls are closer than last time.

She has previously promised to take France out of the EU, to block EU measures to sanction Putin, including measures to stop buying Russian fuel that, well, fuels the war.

In 2017 - the year after Putin helped trump win - he did the same thing in France, giving money to her, hacking Macron's campaign and publishing the hack to try to hurt him. Because public opinion is against Putin now, she's having to destroy over a million pamphlets about her close ties to him.

In short, she could win on Sunday, and if she does - the EU measures take unanimous support and she will end them. This is the biggest threat to Ukraine's fight against Putin currently. An anonymous EU leader said, he can't believe France would vote for her, but he couldn't believe the US would vote for trump of the UK would vote for Brexit.

This was exactly what Putin was banking on when he went into this. Even if those sanctions get support, democracies vote periodically and change directions when they do. France has the next election . I don't think that will help him, but it won't be that long until UK has its, and then there are the mid-terms here. there are bound to be cracks in the unity somewhere if he gives this time.

 

[Cardinal]

Nate Silver is reasonably confident that Macron will win.

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fivethirtyeight.com

 

[Aristaeus]

This was exactly what Putin was banking on when he went into this. Even if those sanctions get support, democracies vote periodically and change directions when they do. France has the next election . I don't think that will help him, but it won't be that long until UK has its, and then there are the mid-terms here. there are bound to be cracks in the unity somewhere if he gives this time.

All the main UK parties are pro-Ukraine and anti-Putin. Anyway, even if Le Pen wins, she wouldn't become President for another 3 weeks or so. The sanctions have already been voted through. She may or may not veto further sanctions as President, but that's hardly an end to European support for Ukraine as the thread title misleadingly claims.

 

[Centrist]

Did the President of Ukraine that has zero diplomatic experience get the memo to phone Macron this week privately to avoid a far-right victory in France?

Of course not, Zelensky was busy blaming Macron for not using the word "genocide" and invited him to Ukraine in the midst of an electoral battle in France.

That's the problem with idealists, they forget that every action they make can have a devasting effect somewhere else. Why would you not call him in private now?

or maybe he wants to deal with Le Pen. In the same way, he caused issues in Israel with the coalition. By the time Zelensky finishes his blame on the West that has helped with billions of dollars, weapons, intelligence reports, refugee assistance, etc.

By the time he finishes it, we might have no West.

The situation in France does not look well, Le Pen can reach to far-left populists as well that really don't care about things like NATO or the EU. Let us hope we don't have another Trump in the female version, it will be a disaster for Western Europe.

 

[The AntiDonald]

All the main UK parties are pro-Ukraine and anti-Putin. Anyway, even if Le Pen wins, she wouldn't become President for another 3 weeks or so. The sanctions have already been voted through. She may or may not veto further sanctions as President, but that's hardly an end to European support for Ukraine as the thread title misleadingly claims.

The title says the support could end. And when one learns about this womans (Le Pen) past and her ideology, one could worry about the EUs future concerning Russia.

 

[code1211]

A danger you might not have heard much about. Rachel reports on a top neo-Nazi's daughter, who agrees with his views, being one of the two candidates for the French presidency - again - on Sunday.

The polls are closer than last time.

She has previously promised to take France out of the EU, to block EU measures to sanction Putin, including measures to stop buying Russian fuel that, well, fuels the war.

In 2017 - the year after Putin helped trump win - he did the same thing in France, giving money to her, hacking Macron's campaign and publishing the hack to try to hurt him. Because public opinion is against Putin now, she's having to destroy over a million pamphlets about her close ties to him.

In short, she could win on Sunday, and if she does - the EU measures take unanimous support and she will end them. This is the biggest threat to Ukraine's fight against Putin currently. An anonymous EU leader said, he can't believe France would vote for her, but he couldn't believe the US would vote for trump of the UK would vote for Brexit.

You are STILL gripped by this false narrative?

How mach fact is required for you to be freed of your fantasy thought prison?

 

[lurchadams]

A danger you might not have heard much about. Rachel reports on a top neo-Nazi's daughter, who agrees with his views, being one of the two candidates for the French presidency - again - on Sunday.

The polls are closer than last time.

She has previously promised to take France out of the EU, to block EU measures to sanction Putin, including measures to stop buying Russian fuel that, well, fuels the war.

In 2017 - the year after Putin helped trump win - he did the same thing in France, giving money to her, hacking Macron's campaign and publishing the hack to try to hurt him. Because public opinion is against Putin now, she's having to destroy over a million pamphlets about her close ties to him.

In short, she could win on Sunday, and if she does - the EU measures take unanimous support and she will end them. This is the biggest threat to Ukraine's fight against Putin currently. An anonymous EU leader said, he can't believe France would vote for her, but he couldn't believe the US would vote for trump of the UK would vote for Brexit.

Yep, she's their fat donny alright. I don't know where this right-wing, racist movement has come from but it's affecting our Republicans and I wish it would go away.

 

[Aristaeus]

The title says the support could end. And when one learns about this womans (Le Pen) past and her ideology, one could worry about the EUs future concerning Russia.

Well actually the title says support could end on Sunday. Again, even if she becomes President next month, that doesn't end the EUs support of Ukraine. EU countries will still be sending weapons, there will still be sanctions.

 

[Gateman_Wen]

I'm confident that the French will be smarter than that.

But that's just me.

Don't bank on it.

 

[Craig234]

Well actually the title says support could end on Sunday. Again, even if she becomes President next month, that doesn't end the EUs support of Ukraine. EU countries will still be sending weapons, there will still be sanctions.

If you watched the video instead of making a false jerky post, you would see that she is an ally of Putin, expected to block any further sanctions by the EU, AND that it's suspected she will work to remove existing sanctions. She has promised to continue energy purchases and so on. The current European unity against Putin would be over.

 

[Aristaeus]

If you watched the video instead of making a false jerky post, you would see that she is an ally of Putin, expected to block any further sanctions by the EU, AND that it's suspected she will work to remove existing sanctions. She has promised to continue energy purchases and so on. The current European unity against Putin would be over.

I know about Le Pen and I don't like her, but the title 'European support for Ukraine on Sunday' is factually false. Even if she wins, she won't be President on Sunday.
And even if she does become President, European support for Ukraine doesn't end. Sanctions will still be in place, weapons will still be sent, and political support for Ukraine will still be there.

French presidential hopeful Marine Le Pen said she broadly supports sanctions against Russia, except when it comes to oil and gas supplies.

Marine Le Pen says she opposes sanctions on Russian gas

The French presidential candidate says she is in favour of sanctions on Russia - except for energy.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[PeteEU]

She won't win. It won't even be close.

 

[Decypher]

Unlikely she will win but it’ll be closer than last time. The communists hate Macron but they’re not going to vote for a nazi. They’ll likely sit this one out.

 

[Craig234]

I know about Le Pen and I don't like her, but the title 'European support for Ukraine on Sunday' is factually false. Even if she wins, she won't be President on Sunday.

That wasn't your argument, and it's not factually false because it depends how the words are interpreted, meaning her winning would signal an end coming as soon as she takes office. The fact you try to re-write what you said is all we need to know.

And even if she does become President, European support for Ukraine doesn't end. Sanctions will still be in place, weapons will still be sent, and political support for Ukraine will still be there.

No, the current unified European support for Ukraine will be over, even if some benefits from the previous support continue.

French presidential hopeful Marine Le Pen said she broadly supports sanctions against Russia, except when it comes to oil and gas supplies.

She is trying to win a close election when the voters are strongly anti-Putin.

So, ya, here entire decades of being pro-Putin, her history of being his chosen candidate he tried to help win because she supported pulling France out of the EU (which she now also reversed for the moment but would leave leadership in NATO), suddently is reversed and means nothing, and she's all against Putin. And I have a bridge to sell you.

Even if that WERE true, which I think is ridiculous to agree, the key sanctions are exactly those - the coming ones against oil. The EU is spending over $300 billion a year on it, funding the way. The EU couldn't end that - which they have now drafted a measure to do, to be voted on after Sunday, if she wins.

You know, trump ran claiming he was tough on Putin, tough on Saudi Arabia, and wanted to drain the swamp. How many bridges have you bought? She had to destroy over a million frickin pamphlets showing her meeting with Putin and close to him she is so against him.

 

[Craig234]

She won't win. It won't even be close.

Hopefully, but the fact she is one of the two candidates is dangerous and absurd. It's looking good that Macron will win - she's at 45% - but the fact she has frickin 45%, that just 5% of voters changing their mind would mean she won, is insane.

 

[PoS]

A danger you might not have heard much about. Rachel reports on a top neo-Nazi's daughter, who agrees with his views, being one of the two candidates for the French presidency - again - on Sunday.

The polls are closer than last time.

She has previously promised to take France out of the EU, to block EU measures to sanction Putin, including measures to stop buying Russian fuel that, well, fuels the war.

In 2017 - the year after Putin helped trump win - he did the same thing in France, giving money to her, hacking Macron's campaign and publishing the hack to try to hurt him. Because public opinion is against Putin now, she's having to destroy over a million pamphlets about her close ties to him.

In short, she could win on Sunday, and if she does - the EU measures take unanimous support and she will end them. This is the biggest threat to Ukraine's fight against Putin currently. An anonymous EU leader said, he can't believe France would vote for her, but he couldn't believe the US would vote for trump of the UK would vote for Brexit.

This is just silly. First of all, France isnt Europe. Second of all, France's aid to Ukraine is pretty small to begin with. Third, Denmark, a small country with a smaller military than France, has given more weapons to Ukraine than France has.

The fact is, the frogs and the krauts are more sympathetic to Putin than they are to Ukraine.

 

[Aristaeus]

This is just silly. First of all, France isnt Europe. Second of all, France's aid to Ukraine is pretty small to begin with. Third, Denmark, a small country with a smaller military than France, has given more weapons to Ukraine than France has.

The fact is, the frogs and the krauts are more sympathetic to Putin than they are to Ukraine.

Germany is literally sending weapons to Ukraine and terminated Nordstream. It sounds like they want to wean themselves of Russian gas, but that will be hard because they rely a lot on it, probably too much.

 

[Evilroddy]

If Marine Le Pen wins the French presidency on Sunday (very unlikely but remotely possible), then she will be arrested and jailed for embezzlement and other financial crimes in a preventative coup d'etat which will end the Fifth Republic and new presidential elections will soon be called for a president of France's new Sixth Republic. That would be my guess on how such a remote possibility would play out. I would not support such draconian, illebetal measures but that's how France deals with existential political crises.

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.

 

[PoS]

Germany is literally sending weapons to Ukraine and terminated Nordstream. It sounds like they want to wean themselves of Russian gas, but that will be hard because they rely a lot on it, probably too much.

Germany is sending very little, and its only because they got shamed by countries like Poland. And theyre still buying Russian gas even now.

 

[Aristaeus]

Germany is sending very little, and its only because they got shamed by countries like Poland. And theyre still buying Russian gas even now.

Something like 40% of their gas is from Russia You can't just stop that overnight.

 

[Craig234]

If Marine Le Pen wins the French presidency on Sunday (very unlikely but remotely possible), then she will be arrested and jailed for embezzlement and other financial crimes in a preventative coup d'etat which will end the Fifth Republic and new presidential elections will soon be called for a president of France's new Sixth Republic. That would be my guess on how such a remote possibility would play out. I would not support such draconian, illebetal measures but that's how France deals with existential political crises.

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.

I think the odds of her being arrested go far, far down if she wins the election, not up. LBJ was likely about to be investigated for corruption just as the assassination made him president and the investigation was ended. Of course prosecutions of trump ended while he was president.

 

[PeteEU]

Hopefully, but the fact she is one of the two candidates is dangerous and absurd. It's looking good that Macron will win - she's at 45% - but the fact she has frickin 45%, that just 5% of voters changing their mind would mean she won, is insane.

She was polling 45% last time she ran as well.. just saying. Hell she was ahead in the first round polls until she had her meltdown.

And in the end, she was utterly crushed in the second round.

We shall see after tonight´s debate..