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Employees Terrified of ICE Raids Are Failing to Show Up at Work

liberals love the human trafficking/kid trafficking/drugs, sex and all the abused illegally here people working for sub wages outside USA labor laws

I don't know why ...... but like happened at my work, the illegally here contractors left. 2 of them told their boss adios, it wasn't worth it anymore, getting caught, they were going home

good - those jobs can now be taken by US citizens. The housing? US citizens. Legally, under US Labor law protections, paying taxes etc.

legal is good
 
liberals love the human trafficking/kid trafficking/drugs, sex and all the abused illegally here people working for sub wages outside USA labor laws

I don't know why ...... but like happened at my work, the illegally here contractors left. 2 of them told their boss adios, it wasn't worth it anymore, getting caught, they were going home

good - those jobs can now be taken by US citizens. The housing? US citizens. Legally, under US Labor law protections, paying taxes etc.

legal is good

We're just not interested in militarized federal agents combing neighborhoods demanding ID so they can rip families, communities and businesses apart.

Reminds me of Argentina in the '60s.

I don't know, maybe conservatives like that. But I remember when they were opposed to government coercion.

And if you want to argue that this police state activity only applies to "bad guys," I suggest you read up on your history.
 
You are allowing them to illegally be in the country, and employers can pay them less because they know they can't complain because they get deported if they get caught. Is'n't that the same as supporting that policy?

You have it backwards. Jobs are why folks come here. Trump undercut all your arguments just yesterday when he stated maybe farms should be allowed to keep undocumented workers. It’s generally Republican business owners who use cheap labor, so a lot of Trump’s donors were getting angry. it’s why ICE is also backing off hotels. Republicans love cheap labor, their base loves brown people being arrested. What’s a right wing wannabe dictatorship to do.
 
liberals love the human trafficking/kid trafficking/drugs, sex and all the abused illegally here people working for sub wages outside USA labor laws

I don't know why ...... but like happened at my work, the illegally here contractors left. 2 of them told their boss adios, it wasn't worth it anymore, getting caught, they were going home

good - those jobs can now be taken by US citizens. The housing? US citizens. Legally, under US Labor law protections, paying taxes etc.

legal is good

Why weren’t those jobs taken by American citizens in the first place?
 
Yep. Come in the legal way or work for an ethical employer who uses the H1-B Visa program.
They would have come the legal way the first time if they could have. You act like all these good hard working people could have come legally and chose not to for some weird reason.

Think it through.

The legal way is broken and doesent allow nearly enough in to meet the needs of the US economy.

It needs to be streamlined and expanded exponentially.
 
We're just not interested in militarized federal agents combing neighborhoods demanding ID so they can rip families, communities and businesses apart.
stop that

ICE has always done these things

Reminds me of Argentina in the '60s.
I don't know, maybe conservatives like that. But I remember when they were opposed to government coercion.
And if you want to argue that this police state activity only applies to "bad guys," I suggest you read up on your history.

again ... stop

ICE has been deporting for a very long time - they did with Obama, Bush, Trump, Biden ............. this isn't new stuff

this IS new that liberal media is reporting it though .... to get the left all stirred up and hating. Its worked it appears
 
stop that

ICE has always done these things



again ... stop

ICE has been deporting for a very long time - they did with Obama, Bush, Trump, Biden ............. this isn't new stuff

this IS new that liberal media is reporting it though .... to get the left all stirred up and hating. Its worked it appears

Interesting since the people of all these communities say they've never seen anything like it.
 
Why weren’t those jobs taken by American citizens in the first place?

likely a field dominated by illegal cheaply paid under the table and outside USA labor laws workers

we need to change that, don't you think ? or do you support abusing an illegal work force like that ?
 
likely a field dominated by illegal cheaply paid under the table and outside USA labor laws workers

we need to change that, don't you think ? or do you support abusing an illegal work force like that ?

So you mean American business owners are setting these wages? Who from the company you’re talking about has been charged as of yet?
 
Interesting since the people of all these communities say they've never seen anything like it.

they're liars then

you can google what ICE has done under Bush/Obama/Trump 1.0/Biden ...... this isn't new stuff

seriously - liberal media are liars, and they use media to stir up hate and division and the left fall for it over and over and over
 
So you mean American business owners are setting these wages? Who from the company you’re talking about has been charged as of yet?

Yes, which is why it pisses me off these companies aren't hammered with fines

I have no idea. I thought about calling but it was a subcontractor of a contractor of a contract .......... couldn't even tell you the name of the company they were working for. They showed up for about 3 days and then left
 
Yes, which is why it pisses me off these companies aren't hammered with fines

I have no idea. I thought about calling but it was a subcontractor of a contractor of a contract .......... couldn't even tell you the name of the company they were working for. They showed up for about 3 days and then left

I wonder why these companies keep getting away with it, and if that might have something to do with the lost jobs.
 
they're liars then

you can google what ICE has done under Bush/Obama/Trump 1.0/Biden ...... this isn't new stuff

seriously - liberal media are liars, and they use media to stir up hate and division and the left fall for it over and over and over

You think all these people are are fleeing their work because they hate Trump?
 
Yes, which is why it pisses me off these companies aren't hammered with fines

I have no idea. I thought about calling but it was a subcontractor of a contractor of a contract .......... couldn't even tell you the name of the company they were working for. They showed up for about 3 days and then left

They're just doing what everybody has done for generations.
 
they're liars then

you can google what ICE has done under Bush/Obama/Trump 1.0/Biden ...... this isn't new stuff

seriously - liberal media are liars, and they use media to stir up hate and division and the left fall for it over and over and over
"Accept the jackboots because I say they've been around a while" isn't the winning argument you seem to think it is.
 
You think all these people are are fleeing their work because they hate Trump?

afraid of being deported yes - how many are self deporting ? no idea

but its happening, and ICE is deporting, and the border is secure .... all 3 of those are good thing for the USA
 
ICE has been deporting for a very long time - they did with Obama, Bush, Trump, Biden ............. this isn't new stuff
Not like this.

They used to have rules against going to court and schools and such. Not anymore.



"The Department of Homeland Security now allows arrests and searches of undocumented immigrants in what they call "sensitive locations."

That refers to places like schools and churches.

Places that used tp be off limits.

So, not the same.
 
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