Elon Musk thinking about donating $100 million to Nigel Farage and ReformUK

[Manc Skipper]

Putin didn't need to invade Ukraine, just buy the politicians like Musk has done.

He's threatened to pay to primary any Republicans who don't vote with Trump.

 

[PoS]

Replace "Musk" with "Soros" and he'd have left spittle everywhere.

Soros is a ****. Elon is a good guy. That is all.

Elections are held every five years. Yes they can be brought forward, IF there is a vote of no confidence.

But the Labor Party holds 402 seats. That's 62%

LOL

MPs to debate petition calling for another election

A petition calling for another vote will be debated in January, after gathering 2.7m signatures.

www.bbc.com

Why do you think this would be "awesome" exactly? Partisan politics aside (unless, of course, that is your only reasoning), why would it ever be a good thing for a wealthy foreigner to pour money in to a minor party and intentionally disrupt a democratic political system?

And you do understand basic civics right? How exactly would there be a no confidence vote against the sitting government of they have 62% of the votes?

LMAO Looks like I know more about Europe than you ever will.

MSN

Are you serious? The legislature votes on those motions. Labour has huge majority. You think they're going to vote against their own government? Geeze.

What we know about the viral petition calling for a general election

More than three million people have signed the petition, which will be debated in parliament on Monday (6 January).

uk.news.yahoo.com

Labour has asjority in Parliament. Do you think it's possible for the party with a majority to vote against itself?

Not for long.

MPs to debate petition calling for another election

A petition calling for another vote will be debated in January, after gathering 2.7m signatures.

www.bbc.com

Won't happen with Labour having 402 seats, that's a supermajority. And even if there were, Reform UK is one of the parties that loses big on the UK fptp system. They got third most votes last time, but only 4 seats, ending up with less seats than the Liberal Democrats, the Greens and SNP.

MPs to debate petition calling for another election

A petition calling for another vote will be debated in January, after gathering 2.7m signatures.

www.bbc.com

Another @PoS self own…….

LOL youre just projecting again, like so...

I predict the trial will not get to a conviction.


Poll is moot.

Putin didn't need to invade Ukraine, just buy the politicians like Musk has done.

Welcome to democracy. Kamala spent over a billion, remember?

 

[joluoto]

Soros is a ****. Elon is a good guy. That is all.

LOL

MPs to debate petition calling for another election

A petition calling for another vote will be debated in January, after gathering 2.7m signatures.

www.bbc.com

LMAO Looks like I know more about Europe than you ever will.

MSN

What we know about the viral petition calling for a general election

More than three million people have signed the petition, which will be debated in parliament on Monday (6 January).

uk.news.yahoo.com

Not for long.

MPs to debate petition calling for another election

A petition calling for another vote will be debated in January, after gathering 2.7m signatures.

www.bbc.com

MPs to debate petition calling for another election

A petition calling for another vote will be debated in January, after gathering 2.7m signatures.

www.bbc.com

LOL youre just projecting again, like so...





Welcome to democracy. Kamala spent over a billion, remember?

Lol, just because they will debate it in Parliament doesn't mean anything. There will be a vote (i even that) and every Labour MP will vote NO and it will be defeated.

 

[PeteEU]

MPs to debate petition calling for another election

A petition calling for another vote will be debated in January, after gathering 2.7m signatures.

www.bbc.com

Again you know nothing. Just because they are forced to debate it, because they have a system where a petition can trigger a debate.. does not mean they will vote for a new election.

LMAO Looks like I know more about Europe than you ever will.

The UK is not all of Europe... so already there you fail and self own.

MSN

What we know about the viral petition calling for a general election

More than three million people have signed the petition, which will be debated in parliament on Monday (6 January).

uk.news.yahoo.com

Not for long.

Not for long? So you are saying that for some reason, because of a petition which has zero legal effect.. over 86 members of the labour party will vote no confidence in their own leader and trigger a general election? What drugs are you on?

You have zero clue on how a parliamentary system works.. let alone democracy.

 

[HonestJoe]

@PoS You appear to have quoted my post but not actually responded to the question;

Why do you think this would be "awesome" exactly? Partisan politics aside (unless, of course, that is your only reasoning), why would it ever be a good thing for a wealthy foreigner to pour money in to a minor party and intentionally disrupt a democratic political system?

 

[PoS]

The UK is not all of Europe... so already there you fail and self own.

United Kingdom - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, commonly known as the United Kingdom (UK) or Britain,[m] is a country in Northwestern Europe,

Even a child knows this, but not you. thanks for proving my point!

@PoS You appear to have quoted my post but not actually responded to the question;

Why do you think this would be "awesome" exactly? Partisan politics aside (unless, of course, that is your only reasoning), why would it ever be a good thing for a wealthy foreigner to pour money in to a minor party and intentionally disrupt a democratic political system?

Absolutely. The UK has become a fascist dystopia where free thought gets you arrested and the climate change scam will bankrupt its industry. Reform UK is the only party that has the balls to take on the establishment and turn this around. Musk's support could be crucial if they can make this work.

 

[HonestJoe]

Absolutely. The UK has become a fascist dystopia where free thought gets you arrested and the climate change scam will bankrupt its industry. Reform UK is the only party that has the balls to take on the establishment and turn this around. Musk's support could be crucial if they can make this work.

I'm pretty sure I'd notice if I were living in a fascist dystopia with no freedom of thought, and climate change policies are hardly unique to the UK.

You also miss that my question was more general, not why it would be good for Musk to give money to Reform UK, but why it's good for wealthy foreigner to pour money in to minor political parties to intentionally disrupt the democratic system? What if it was someone thinking about funding the British Communist Party or Green Party?

 

[Sven Karma]

Absolutely. The UK has become a fascist dystopia where free thought gets you arrested and the climate change scam will bankrupt its industry. Reform UK is the only party that has the balls to take on the establishment and turn this around. Musk's support could be crucial if they can make this work.

The UK has always been a bit of a totalitarian centralized dystopia, hence e.g 1776. As a concept 'Reform UK' isn't inaccurate. But where that should start (reforming the monarchy) is the last place Farage's electorate will let him go.

 

[PoS]

I'm pretty sure I'd notice if I were living in a fascist dystopia with no freedom of thought, and climate change policies are hardly unique to the UK.

Silent prayer woman given payout over Birmingham abortion clinic arrest

West Midlands Police paid Isabel Vaughan-Spruce £13,000 but did not admit liability.

www.bbc.co.uk

A woman was arrested for silently praying in public. Thats pretty dystopian to me. Dont forget the people getting arrested for Facebook posts too, and the hardened criminals being let out early to jail the former.

You also miss that my question was more general, not why it would be good for Musk to give money to Reform UK, but why it's good for wealthy foreigner to pour money in to minor political parties to intentionally disrupt the democratic system? What if it was someone thinking about funding the British Communist Party or Green Party?

Thats how votes are financed in a capitalistic country right? What would you prefer? A one party rule like in China? Musk is for free speech, so I hope he succeeds in changing the UK.

The UK has always been a bit of a totalitarian centralized dystopia, hence e.g 1776. As a concept 'Reform UK' isn't inaccurate. But where that should start (reforming the monarchy) is the last place Farage's electorate will let him go.

The monarchy is just a figurehead. The true movers and shakers are mostly less flashy, but they decide on real stuff like DEI at workplaces and in entertainment, as well as financing the net zero scam at taxpayers expense.

 

[HonestJoe]

A woman was arrested for silently praying in public. Thats pretty dystopian to me. Dont forget the people getting arrested for Facebook posts too, and the hardened criminals being let out early to jail the former.

The abortion protestor was also able to speak publicly about her arrest, appeal and win compensation. That doesn't happen in fascist dystopias. People only get arrested for statements that are criminal in general, like making threats or inciting violence. The medium doesn't make any difference (other than the scope and ease of use). And nobody was released early so that those people could be imprisoned, prisoners have long been released early because successive governments have failed to invest in the prison estate (because it isn't a fascist dystopia, so governments avoid unpopular policies if they think they can get away with it).

Thats how votes are financed in a capitalistic country right? What would you prefer? A one party rule like in China? Musk is for free speech, so I hope he succeeds in changing the UK.

No, I'd like political parties (and preferably, more independent candidates) to be funded from small donations of multiple UK citizens. It's the "foreign" and "millions" aspects I object to here. It's worth noting that Musk donating personally would be illegal, with the suggestion that he would have to funnel any funding through a UK-based company (which would still be legally questionable, for good reason).

 

[PoS]

The abortion protestor was also able to speak publicly about her arrest, appeal and win compensation. That doesn't happen in fascist dystopias. People only get arrested for statements that are criminal in general, like making threats or inciting violence. The medium doesn't make any difference (other than the scope and ease of use). And nobody was released early so that those people could be imprisoned, prisoners have long been released early because successive governments have failed to invest in the prison estate (because it isn't a fascist dystopia, so governments avoid unpopular policies if they think they can get away with it).

Getting arrested for making statements alone is pretty much dystopian. the fact that she had to go through the process before getting it overturned is pretty damning. So is getting arrested for FB posts. Theres no free speech whatsoever in your country.

No, I'd like political parties (and preferably, more independent candidates) to be funded from small donations of multiple UK citizens. It's the "foreign" and "millions" aspects I object to here. It's worth noting that Musk donating personally would be illegal, with the suggestion that he would have to funnel any funding through a UK-based company (which would still be legally questionable, for good reason).

If its legal then Musk should do it. Your own Labour MPs did the same thing when they campaigned for Kamala.