Elon Musk defeated. Cancel Culture works.

[Dans La Lune]

What is Cancel Culture? Basically leveraging your buying power and speech to bring down people / companies in behavior that large swaths of the public disagree with. It can bring down companies, it can bring down centi-billionaires, it can reform nations and change the course of human history. It's one of the few tools available to impact our commercialized politics.

 

[Jezcoe]

Is he still the wealthiest man on the planet who is gaining more and more power and influence through enormous government contracts that are being awarded to him by the government that he bought while his installed lackeys continue to gut all of the regulatory agencies that oversee his activities?

So no.... dude wasn't cancelled.

 

[medi]

Please excuse my focusing on just one thing you wrote:

and change the course of human history

I've always had to sort of take a pause whenever I have heard/read that expression.

I've never been able to wrap my feeble mind around the idea of changing the course of something that hasn't happened yet?

And I should apologize for using your use of the expression here, instead of just starting a thread asking about that. Not sure if I have ever publicly asked how that works; changing the course of events that haven't happened yet.

 

[Loulit01]

Elon: I think I've done enough.

Me too, Elon. Me too.

 

[Loulit01]

Is he still the wealthiest man on the planet who is gaining more and more power and influence through enormous government contracts that are being awarded to him by the government that he bought while his installed lackeys continue to gut all of the regulatory agencies that oversee his activities?

So no.... dude wasn't cancelled.

True. But he should have been cancelled. He's an ass who destroyed lives, threw a monkey wrench into vital agencies, and wound up saving zero dollars.

 

[Deuce]

Imagine the pain of being the wealthiest man on the planet, with unprecedented access to the US government to use as a playtoy, and getting tossed out because you're just so ****ing lame.

 

[Lovebug]

What is Cancel Culture? Basically leveraging your buying power and speech to bring down people / companies in behavior that large swaths of the public disagree with. It can bring down companies, it can bring down centi-billionaires, it can reform nations and change the course of human history. It's one of the few tools available to impact our commercialized politics.

Wishful thinking aside, he ain't down.

 

[medi]

Wishful thinking aside, he ain't down.

Got that right. When you own a platform that has more people paying attention than maybe the top 5 print media entities put together, you sure aren't "down". I think even many Democratic Party members are using his platform to try and get their message out, yes?

 

[Mycroft]

He did what Trump asked him to do: He set up DOGE.

And guess what...DOGE isn't done. They still have more than a year to go.

 

[NuffSaid]

He did what Trump asked him to do: He set up DOGE.

And guess what...DOGE isn't done. They still have more than a year to go.

And DOGE has been a failure.
When will they find that $2T that Mush promised?

 

[medi]

He did what Trump asked him to do: He set up DOGE.

And guess what...DOGE isn't done. They still have more than a year to go.

That's a valid point, especially when one looks back and sees how hard it can be to get rid on ANY federal government agency after it has put its roots down in either Washington D.C. or Alexandria, Virginia.

 

[Lovebug]

He did what Trump asked him to do: He set up DOGE.

And guess what...DOGE isn't done. They still have more than a year to go.

He bought the presidency.
He got access to all our information, paved his way to set himself up just fine and accomplished nothing for the average American citizen.

Hail billionaires. Sieg Heil.
Be ever so proud.

 

[Dans La Lune]

Please excuse my focusing on just one thing you wrote:



I've always had to sort of take a pause whenever I have heard/read that expression.

I've never been able to wrap my feeble mind around the idea of changing the course of something that hasn't happened yet?

And I should apologize for using your use of the expression here, instead of just starting a thread asking about that. Not sure if I have ever publicly asked how that works; changing the course of events that haven't happened yet.

Apartheid South Africa.

 

[Dans La Lune]

He did what Trump asked him to do: He set up DOGE.

And guess what...DOGE isn't done. They still have more than a year to go.

Oh, there is damage a plenty that has been done by DOGE and will be done in the wake of DOGE. And you'll celebrate, because something in society hasn't worked out for you personally. And thus you need to destroy it.

 

[Dans La Lune]

Wishful thinking aside, he ain't down.

People need to do others business leaders what they've done to Elon Musk. I love the anti-Woke Business App, it gives everyone a roadmap of which businesses to boycott.

 

[Peacenik]

That's a valid point, especially when one looks back and sees how hard it can be to get rid on ANY federal government agency after it has put its roots down in either Washington D.C. or Alexandria, Virginia.

Why would we want to get rid of federal government agencies?

We constantly need more of them, not fewer.

The world progresses. Our government must expand to keep up. We are going forward in time, not backward.

Anybody who thinks we can go back in time is deluded.

 

[Dans La Lune]

Is he still the wealthiest man on the planet who is gaining more and more power and influence through enormous government contracts that are being awarded to him by the government that he bought while his installed lackeys continue to gut all of the regulatory agencies that oversee his activities?

So no.... dude wasn't cancelled.

He's political poison. His ability to get government contracts in the future will be significantly diminished. His businesses are crumbling. One of the reasons Canada averted a right-wing take over is because we made Elon Musk a political liability and rightly associated this identity to Poilievre.

Conservatives are now distancing themselves from Elon Musk as well.

Sounds like a win to me.

 

[Peacenik]

Oh, there is damage a plenty that has been done by DOGE and will be done in the wake of DOGE. And you'll celebrate, because something in society hasn't worked out for you personally. And thus you need to destroy it.

The selfishness of some conservatives is beyond compare. How can someone be so selfish that if a part of government doesn't benefit them personally, they want to get rid of it? What. Do they just block out the fact that the country consists of hundreds of millions of people? Do they simply ignore that different people have different needs? Do they think everyone can be self sufficient? Do they really think it's justifiable to want to give tax breaks to billionaires by cutting off government services to the needy? And still not pay down the debt at all but instead make it greater?

Do these selfish conservatives just block out the part of the Constitution that says part of the government's purpose is to promote the general welfare?

Gotta wonder if they were ever part of a team and had to work toward the team's goals whether or not it benefited them personally? Did they ever get told: "No. You can't have the ball all the time. You do have to let others have it and you do have to support them when they do have it."

 

[Dans La Lune]

The selfishness of some conservatives is beyond compare. How can someone be so selfish that if a part of government doesn't benefit them personally, they want to get rid of it? What. Do they just block out the fact that the country consists of hundreds of millions of people? Do they simply ignore that different people have different needs? Do they think everyone can be self sufficient? Do they really think it's justifiable to want to give tax breaks to billionaires by cutting off government services to the needy? And still not pay down the debt at all but instead make it greater?

Do these selfish conservatives just block out the part of the Constitution that says part of the government's purpose is to promote the general welfare?

They tried the maximalist neoliberal / libertarian experiment in Kansas and it was a cartoonish disaster. Sam Brownback became such a conservative liability that Trump made him ambassador of empty space.

The Kansas tax cut experiment

William Gale unpacks what the failure of the Kansas tax cuts can teach the Trump administration and House Republicans about tax reform.

www.brookings.edu

 

[Peacenik]

They tried the maximalist neoliberal / libertarian experiment in Kansas and it was a cartoonish disaster. Sam Brownback became such a conservative liability that Trump made him ambassador of empty space.

The Kansas tax cut experiment

William Gale unpacks what the failure of the Kansas tax cuts can teach the Trump administration and House Republicans about tax reform.

www.brookings.edu

I recall that entire story.

Conservatives can't try hard enough to block it out. They want to pretend it never happened. It exposes that their entire taxing theory is total bullshit.

The problem with the Laffer curve is OK, if taxes are too high, and they are reduced, yes, the economy does better; but after the peak of that effect, as taxes are reduced even further then it hurts the economy because wealth inequality becomes too great, and that also hurts the economy just as much as having taxes too high.

There's a lot more going on in the economy than job creation. The Laffer curve foolishly considers nothing else besides making sure the rich have enough money to invest that jobs are created. It's a big wide world out there. There are so many other factors, such as wealth inequality, that just looking at any one factor is fraught with disaster.

 

[Jezcoe]

He's political poison. His ability to get government contracts in the future will be significantly diminished. His businesses are crumbling. One of the reasons Canada averted a right-wing take over is because we made Elon Musk a political liability and rightly associated this identity to Poilievre.

Conservatives are now distancing themselves from Elon Musk as well.

Sounds like a win to me.

Space X is poised to get a huge amount of government money.

Musk will remain the wealthiest man on the planet likely for the rest of his life.

 

[Dans La Lune]

Space X is poised to get a huge amount of government money.

MAGA is going to MAGA. Other nations, not so much.

Ontario will be 'ripping up' its $68 million Starlink contract with SpaceX, Doug Ford says

SpaceX's Starlink was awarded the $68 million contract in November to provide internet services to 15,000 homes and businesses in Ontario, Canada.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Fletch]

Why would we want to get rid of federal government agencies?

We constantly need more of them, not fewer.

The world progresses. Our government must expand to keep up. We are going forward in time, not backward.

Anybody who thinks we can go back in time is deluded.

By that thinking, the ultimate end of human civilization is a massive totalitarian state. Yeah, no thanks.

 

[Fletch]

And DOGE has been a failure.
When will they find that $2T that Mush promised?

A failure? DoGE has saved the taxpayers $170 billion in just over 100 days. Thats huuuuge success.

 

[Greenbeard]

Imagine the pain of being the wealthiest man on the planet, with unprecedented access to the US government to use as a playtoy, and getting tossed out because you're just so ****ing lame.

Paying people to play video games under your account to make it look like you're good at them isn't cool?