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Elon moves to treat"cisgender" as slur on Twitter; accounts "harassing" people by calling them cis will be suspended

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Doesn't he also have a trans child who has basically disowned him?

Musk is a hyper-narcissist who can't tolerate anyone rejecting him.
She did disown him, in court.
Elon Musk's transgender daughter has applied to legally change her name and gender, saying she no longer wants to "be related to my biological father in any way, shape or form".
The 18-year-old has asked to be recognised as female and have the name Vivian Jenna Wilson.
She was known as Xavier Alexander Musk.
The petition for both a name change and a new birth certificate was filed with the Los Angeles County Superior Court in Santa Monica.
Her request is set out in court documents filed in April, which have only recently come to light.
There was no further detail of the apparent rift between Mr Musk's daughter and her father.
 
I feel like I am losing my mind. You tell me! YOU are the one that defined straight as attracted to people who are NOT part of the queer community at all.

Perhaps the idea is that only someone one attracted to the opposite sex of both their biological sex and their gender is heterosexual, so that by that definition, a transgender person cannot be heterosexual because they'll either be attracted to the same sex or the same gender.
 
Anyone else notice that Elon went on this hard anti-trans turn when his trophy girlfriend half his age left him for a transwoman?

Is Grimes a trophy girlfriend?

What game in hell did he win?
 
What do the good people of DP think? Is 'cis' a slur?
Didn't Elon Musk claim just a couple weeks ago that he wasn't going to impose any restrictions on speech that weren't legally required? So much for that.

As for whether it's a slur...I guess so, in the sense that it's an unwelcome (for some people) word to describe who they are. But people should be able to negotiate those boundaries on their own without social media platforms enforcing their own morals by banning people for using naughty words. It certainly isn't *universally* considered a slur the way that, say, the n-word is.

Jack Twitter banned people for "misgendering" other users. Elon Twitter bans people for saying "cisgender". A decent platform would shut the hell up and just let users talk. Tech billionaires (or the hall monitors in their HR departments) don't have any advanced moral prowess that allows them to settle contentious topics for everyone.
 
She did disown him, in court.



Elon Musk says he lost transgender daughter because of ‘neo-Marxists’​


Nah, Elon, you're just a mean-spirited shitty father. Elon goes out of his way to project himself as this highly-intelligent ultra-man who's a genius and knows everything about everything. He's used to manipulating people and so when his own trans-daughter rejected him, it pierced his imagined self-importance and sense of superiority. Sounds like a former president of ours now that I think about it.

As the Tesla CEO explained in a new interview, he apparently sees no link between his controversial statements about gender identity issues and his daughter’s move to legally sever ties with him​


Sure, just a coincidence.

Twitter's his way to get even. He has no contact with his daughter anymore, so he uses twitter as a megaphone to strike out at an 'enemy' (anyone who's trans) that did nothing to him.
 
Oh --- maybe I didn't word is correctly.

My words that are confusing you ---- Straight people are only attracted to the opposite sex and aren't part of the queer community at all.

I didn't mean that straight people wouldn't date people from the queer community. Take out "are only attracted to the opposite sex and" clause and reread --- "Straight people aren't part of the queer community at all". That's what I meant.

In your scenario, you are queer; she is straight. Just because she's dating a queer person doesn't mean she is herself queer. She's a straight person who is attracted to a queer bio male.
Well that certainly makes more sense. Though it makes this part of your post more confusing.
In terms of the dating world, it would make things a lot simpler. If you're not interested in dating a straight or queer person, you can weed those people out more quickly.
I would assume a straight woman would be primarily interested in dating...men. That's what she is interested in. There are a great number is straight people that are interested in both straight (by your definition) and queer people. And there are a great number of queer people interested in dating straight people.

For many people, this system wouldn't simplify or weed out in any effective way at all. A straight women would be interested in bisexual and trans men, but not a while bunch of other queer people like lesbians, trans women, presumably some non-binary people, definitely not asexuals, etc. And as a bisexual I would be interested in dating straight women, and I wouldn't want to "weed them out" nor would I want to weed out bisexual women or gay men.

If only we had terms to describe exactly who you were attracted to in a clear way. Terms that weed out only people you aren't interested in while keeping only people you are interested in. Hmm...much to think about.
 
Well that certainly makes more sense. Though it makes this part of your post more confusing.

I would assume a straight woman would be primarily interested in dating...men. That's what she is interested in. There are a great number is straight people that are interested in both straight (by your definition) and queer people. And there are a great number of queer people interested in dating straight people.

Of course.

For many people, this system wouldn't simplify or weed out in any effective way at all. A straight women would be interested in bisexual and trans men, but not a while bunch of other queer people like lesbians, trans women, presumably some non-binary people, definitely not asexuals, etc. And as a bisexual I would be interested in dating straight women, and I wouldn't want to "weed them out" nor would I want to weed out bisexual women or gay men.

If only we had terms to describe exactly who you were attracted to in a clear way. Terms that weed out only people you aren't interested in while keeping only people you are interested in. Hmm...much to think about.

Hey - I didn't say it was a perfect opinion. :)
 
That is being very generous.

I mean -- you couldn't even figure out that I was talking about my own opinion the entire time, so.....
 
I mean -- you couldn't even figure out that I was talking about my own opinion the entire time, so.....


Even you can spin better than this.
 
You're trying. :)
Psychological projection.

Reviewed by Psychology Today Staff

Projection is the process of displacing one’s feelings onto a different person, animal, or object. The term is most commonly used to describe defensive projection—attributing one’s own unacceptable urges to another. For example, if someone continuously bullies and ridicules a peer about his insecurities, the bully might be projecting his own struggle with self-esteem onto the other person.
The concept emerged from Sigmund Freud’s work on defense mechanisms and was further refined by his daughter, Anna Freud, and other prominent figures in psychology.
 
I think this is self evidently stupid. It is nothing but a shallow attempt act like trans activists are all being bigoted somehow.

Perhaps there are people that think it is a slur because they used 'trans' like a slur.
So men and women, that's biological men and women don't get to pick what they want to be referred to as? LOL, typical left wing BS. I'm not cis anything, just a man , a biological man. So I'd prefer to be referred to a man.
 
So men and women, that's biological men and women don't get to pick what they want to be referred to as? LOL, typical left wing BS. I'm not cis anything, just a man , a biological man. So I'd prefer to be referred to a man.
If t you are not transgender or non-binary then by default you are cisgender.

Cisgender
A cisgender person has a gender identity that matches their sex assigned at birth. A person whose sex was assigned male at birth and identifies as a boy or a man, or someone whose sex was assigned female at birth and identifies as a girl or a woman, is considered cisgender.
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Well, you didn't.

And replying to someone quoting you isn't chasing you around. If you don't want to have a discussion with me, stop responding.
What in the wide world of sports are you talking about? You're responding directly to me.

This is not a discussion; I'm humoring you. You chase people down like runaway slaves, demanding that they answer you the way you want them to.
 
What in the wide world of sports are you talking about? You're responding directly to me.

This is not a discussion; I'm humoring you. You chase people down like runaway slaves, demanding that they answer you the way you want them to.

If you don't want a response, stop "humoring" me.
 
Cisgender is not a slur. That is easily the stupidest thing I will read today, right after "they don't want kids reading Narnia."

For pissing and moaning about snowflakes and woke culture as much as they do, the right sure love being victims.
 
Wokeists gonna freak over this. They don't like their ideology challenged. They want to force their made up words on everyone.
 
So men and women, that's biological men and women don't get to pick what they want to be referred to as? LOL, typical left wing BS. I'm not cis anything, just a man , a biological man. So I'd prefer to be referred to a man.
Sure, but cisgender refers to gender identity, because you can be a man yet not be in tune with your sex. Cisgender simply makes the distinction of you being one with your sex and gender. This has always existed, but now we're defining it more clearly.
 
Wokeists gonna freak over this. They don't like their ideology challenged. They want to force their made up words on everyone.
Such as science that conservatives claim to demand being obeyed.........? Are you also outraged when someone calls you heterosexual?


According to the LGBTQIA Resource Center, cisgender — pronounced sis-gender — refers to a gender identity that a person, or society, deems to match the sex that a doctor assigned them at birth.

For example, if a doctor determines a person’s sex at birth to be male and this person identifies as a man, they would be what is known as cisgender.

People who do not identify with the gender that a doctor assigned them at birth may refer to themselves as trans, which includes gender identities such as transgender, non-binary, and genderqueer.
 
Cisgender is not a slur. That is easily the stupidest thing I will read today, right after "they don't want kids reading Narnia."

For pissing and moaning about snowflakes and woke culture as much as they do, the right sure love being victims.
It's gotten progressively worse, so this may not be the ceiling of silly things to pout about.
 
Its not science. its a word based on ideology requiring acceptance of a non-empirical theory. Its not science its #science for the gullible and dumb.



Such as science that conservatives claim to demand being obeyed.........? Are you also outraged when someone calls you heterosexual?



 
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