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Elizabeth Warren fuels class warfare with new wealth redistribution ideas

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Right wingers always act like the rich aren't waging class war and winning.
 
The msnbc left wing super socialists have an opinion journalist talking about how a Democrat is waging class warfare?

Is that what is happening? I though msnbc was full in for the left. Socialist, Marxists, nothing but creme de la left.

Breaking news indeed.

 

The article is from msn.com (microsoft news) relinking a Hill article. Not MSNBC, Hatuey.
 
Felis Leo said:
The article is from msn.com (microsoft news) relinking a Hill article. Not MSNBC, Hatuey.
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Ah, they must be excluded by the mainstream media overlords.
 
Accusing liberal Democrats of class war is like accusing a woman of rape when she fights back.
 
For years public opinion surveys have indicated majority support for higher taxes on rich people and corporations, and little support for cutting middle class entitlements. Class war and the politics of envy are the best issues the Democrats have. I wish they were more enthusiastic about exploiting them.
 
most of the main advocates want to be filthy rich too and see class warfare as a means to obtain wealth and power without actually doing much of anything to earn it. If the democrats actually succeed of uniting the rich, that party is doomed.
 
SmartCat said:
Accusing liberal Democrats of class war is like accusing a woman of rape when she fights back.
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that is just plain psychobabble.
 

That's like saying the coronavirus vaccines are unprovoked war on the virus.
 
Hatuey said:
The msnbc left wing super socialists have an opinion journalist talking about how a Democrat is waging class warfare?
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This isn't MSNBC - who does have right-wing people - it's an opinion piece by Jonathan Turley, a phony 'Democrat', a Fox News contributor who voted against Clinton in 1996 and supported his impeachment, while speaking against both impeachments of trump, who welcomed praise from a Libertarian nominee for president saying Turley would be a top Supreme Court pick.
 
We need to return to being the United States of America.
That will not happen without repealing the 16th and 17th amendments.
The responsibility of our Federal government was never meant to produce equality of outcome but only equality of application of our laws at the Federal level of government.
Sadly, it is fiat currencies that are the source of most all of our problems, which extend the life of governments at cost to each successive generation who are made responsible for the debts of previous generations while adding to the debts of those who will follow.
 

This is a post of lies. What I mean in particular is the lie that the issue is "equality of outcomes" instead of what it actually is, opposition to extreme inequality through tyranny resulting in plutocracy that will ultimately destroy democracy, and a reasonable equality of opportunity instead of permanent 'classes' which are basically hereditary nobility.

Your legitimate point is the problem of crushing debt created for future Americans, and for that you can look to Republicans since Reagan, the only ones to skyrocket our peacetime debt to inflate the plutocrats now by creating over $20 trillion in debt, while they have redistributed $50 trillion in wealth to the rich. Learn what the actual problem is, plutocracy.
 

Bum:

It is an interesting aspect of conservativevWmerican selective thinking to view calls for redistribution of income as class warfare, but denials of minimum wage raises or tax cuts targetted to give the small demographic of the rich the vast proponderance of the saved benefits as not class warfare. If income distribution is so lopsided that it is leading to unhealthy levels of concentration of wealth and thus the perversion of representative democracy into oligarchy, then why is calling for redistribution of income to poorer individuals or poorer regions of your country class warfare? Does class warfare only occur when its focus is bottom-up? Is top-down class warfare impossible in your ken?

Perhaps you could more clearly define what you mean by class warfare.

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.
 
Write the new tax code. See what article 3 has to say. 788 American billionaires increased their wealth over $1.3 trillion during the pandemic. Increase corporate and top end rates, place a wealth tax, reduce the estate tax loopholes. Stored mega wealth does zero for the economy.
 

When oligarchic tyranny leads to things like communist revolution in Russia or China or Cuba, the difference is the right-wing's answer is 'revolution bad, oligarchy good'. More sensible, progressive people can say 'both bad', and want something better than either. Something a little like what came out of the French revolution, whatever your opinion of the guillotine phase.
 
A simple question I've never seen answered by the right:

How much concentration of wealth and power is too much, and how do you fix it?
 

I don't have a problem here. I'd go further and probe the Cayman Islands, Cyprus, Switzerland, and Delaware.
 
I like the way the Democrats are shifting the conversation away from "Bad things the government does to you," to "Good things the government can do for you." There is plenty of money in the United States. The problem is that the best paid ten percent of the country has the money. All we need to do is to direct the government to take the money from those who have the money, and to buy votes by spreading the money around. When the Democrats did that they dominated the country.

During the late 1970's the Democrats let the tax issue get away from them. We need to return to the politics of tax, spend, and elect. That is to say, we need to tax the well to do, to spend on everyone else in order to elect Democrat politicians.

If the rich do not like it, they can move, but where will they move to? Other affluent democracies will tax them more than they are taxed in the United States. Third world countries will tax them less. However, in third world countries they will find dangerous drinking water, dirt roads, high crime rates, and corrupt criminal justice systems.
 
The only winner in the fight between plutocracy and wealth redistribution is government power, everyone else will lose.
 
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