Elizabeth Warren bullied to take DNA test to prove Indian heritage

[dobieg]

Chuck Todd was acting like an ass this morning trying to bully Elizabeth Warren into taking a DNA test to prove her Indian heritage. Warren heroically rejected the idea and fought back, "Nobody is going to take that part of me away".


It's a travesty that a powerful woman such as Warren is having her ancestry questioned in a silly attempt to undercut her presidential ambitions.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., argued that her family’s claim to Native American ancestry is an indelible part of who she is — something that can never be taken away.

Warren defended herself on NBC’s “Meet the Press with Chuck Todd” Sunday morning when asked what she thought about taking an easily accessible DNA test, such as those offered by 23andMe or Ancestry, to settle the ongoing controversy over her heritage.

Rather than address that question specifically, Warren told a story about how her mother and father, born and raised in Oklahoma, met as teenagers and fell head-over-heels in love. Her father’s family was bitterly opposed to their relationship, she said, because her mother was part Native American, but the couple eloped and persevered.

“That’s the story that my brothers and I all learned from our Mom and our Dad, from our grandparents and all of our aunts and uncles. It’s a part of me, and nobody is going to take that part of me away — not ever,” Warren said.

After hearing this story, Todd returned to his initial concern: Why not do genealogical research or take a DNA test to find out her actual heritage? What’s wrong with knowing whether her family’s story was the truth?

“I do know. I know who I am. And never used it for anything, never got any benefit out of it anywhere,” she said.

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/warren-r...ry-nobody-going-take-part-away-173657853.html

 

[TobyOne]

She'll soon be looking for Todd's scalp.

 

[Gaugingcatenate]

Chuck Todd was acting like an ass this morning trying to bully Elizabeth Warren into taking a DNA test to prove her Indian heritage. Warren heroically rejected the idea and fought back, "Nobody is going to take that part of me away".


It's a travesty that a powerful woman such as Warren is having her ancestry questioned in a silly attempt to undercut her presidential ambitions.



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https://www.yahoo.com/news/warren-r...ry-nobody-going-take-part-away-173657853.html

Wonder how much wampum the test costs? She has used this to get a leg up on others, to her advantage, seems to me the bill is coming due.

 

[ttwtt78640]

If she knows who she is (a Native American) then why does that status come and go (if not for perceived gain)? Taking a DNA test would not, in the least, change what she knows that she is. It would, however, let others be the judge as to whether she cares about facts and makes decisions based on that knowledge.

While a teacher at the University of Texas, she listed herself as "white." But between 1986 and 1995, she listed herself as a minority in the Association of American Law Schools Directory of Faculty; the University of Pennsylvania in a 2005 "minority equity report" also listed her as one of the minority professors who had taught at its law school.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...zabeth-warren-native-american-or-what/257415/

 

[Harshaw]

While a teacher at the University of Texas, she listed herself as "white." But between 1986 and 1995, she listed herself as a minority in the Association of American Law Schools Directory of Faculty; the University of Pennsylvania in a 2005 "minority equity report" also listed her as one of the minority professors who had taught at its law school.

This sort of thing is why it, in fact, matters.

It would, however, let others be the judge as to whether she cares about facts and makes decisions based on that knowledge.

She has the ancestry or she doesn't. Family lore doesn't mean much. We can still look at the fact that she's refusing to find out if it's true or not, which is an intentional disregard of truth.

 

[Hawkeye10]

She can claim anything she wants, I will take her claim seriously only when she provides this cheap and easy proof, if she will not provide this cheap and easy proof then I will wonder what her reason is for not providing this cheap and easy proof.

 

[Middleground]

This sort of thing is why it, in fact, matters.



She has the ancestry or she doesn't. Family lore doesn't mean much. We can still look at the fact that she's refusing to find out if it's true or not, which is an intentional disregard of truth.

She does not have to prove anything to anybody. What she did -- 40 years before she got into politics -- is her own ****ing business.Jesus christ you people have no shame.

 

[HowardBThiname]

Chuck Todd was acting like an ass this morning trying to bully Elizabeth Warren into taking a DNA test to prove her Indian heritage. Warren heroically rejected the idea and fought back, "Nobody is going to take that part of me away".


It's a travesty that a powerful woman such as Warren is having her ancestry questioned in a silly attempt to undercut her presidential ambitions.

The emboldened tells us one thing very clearly -- Warren KNOWS her tall tales must end if she takes a DNA test.

That's too funny.

Little lying Fauxcahontas.

 

[Chomsky]

Chuck Todd was acting like an ass this morning trying to bully Elizabeth Warren into taking a DNA test to prove her Indian heritage. Warren heroically rejected the idea and fought back, "Nobody is going to take that part of me away".


It's a travesty that a powerful woman such as Warren is having her ancestry questioned in a silly attempt to undercut her presidential ambitions.



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https://www.yahoo.com/news/warren-r...ry-nobody-going-take-part-away-173657853.html

I see no problem applying political pressure on those in office, and/or aspiring to office, to clarify their claims and background. This is basic transparency in vetting & electing an official.

This lack of vetting & demanding transparency in Trump's tax returns, is in part why we're in the mess we are now with him.

If Ms. Warren insists on "keeping her private parts private", whatever the hell that means, she should have no problem with the voters keeping their votes private and out of her hands either!

 

[HowardBThiname]

She does not have to prove anything to anybody. What she did -- 40 years before she got into politics -- is her own ****ing business.Jesus christ you people have no shame.

I remember someone here saying virtually the same thing about Roy Moore.

Fascinating.

 

[Middleground]

I remember someone here saying virtually the same thing about Roy Moore.

Fascinating.

There's a big difference. Roy Moore is a pedophile. Fascinating that it took someone to point that out.

 

[Harshaw]

I see no problem applying political pressure on those in office, and/or aspiring to office, to clarify their claims and background. This is basic transparency in vetting & electing an official.

This lack of vetting & demanding transparency in Trump's tax returns, is in part why we're in the mess we are now with him.

If Ms. Warren insists on "keeping her private parts private", whatever the hell that means, she should have no problem with the voters keeping their votes private and out of her hands either!

Yeah, I mean, if it was part of her professional life -- and it was, as ttwt pointed out -- then it's a legitimate question, and her refusal to verify it is very much worth considering.

 

[Vox]

Chuck Todd was acting like an ass this morning trying to bully Elizabeth Warren into taking a DNA test to prove her Indian heritage. Warren heroically rejected the idea and fought back, "Nobody is going to take that part of me away".

She's a fake and everybody knows it now.

If she were telling the truth she wouldn't fear the DNA test.

:2wave:

 

[Dittohead not!]

Warren was told by family that she had native American ancestry. She repeated it.

Maybe she does, and maybe she doesn't. Who really gives a rip one way or the other unless they want to try to discredit her as a presidential candidate?

And, if that's all they have to discredit her, she must be a pretty good candidate. Heaven knows, Trump has a lot more to discredit him, and he still won.

 

[Chomsky]

Yeah, I mean, if it was part of her professional life -- and it was, as ttwt pointed out -- then it's a legitimate question, and her refusal to verify it is very much worth considering.

Agreed.

Obviously reflecting on her professional life, but also speaking to her honesty and trustworthiness as well.

We seem to have gotten away from remembering that these officials are our public servants. We pay them. They work on our behalf, at our pleasure. And as such, we should demand transparency in seeing what exactly we're getting, and what exactly they are doing once we give them the keys to throne.

Their "thrones" allow them to influence every facet of our lives. That power should not be given easily, or without careful consideration.

I am still beyond shocked, that some voters were willing to give Trump their votes without vetting him through his tax returns. I still can't believe it.

 

[Harshaw]

Agreed.

Obviously reflecting on her professional life, but also speaking to her honesty and trustworthiness as well.

We seem to have gotten away from remembering that these officials are our public servants. We pay them. They work on our behalf, at our pleasure. And as such, we should demand transparency in seeing what exactly we're getting, and what exactly they are doing once we give them the keys to throne.

Their "thrones" allow them to influence every facet of our lives. That power should not be given easily, or without careful consideration.

I am still beyond shocked, that some voters were willing to give Trump their votes without vetting him through his tax returns. I still can't believe it.

Agreed. If you're seeking higher office -- especially the highest office in the land -- you should expect a very serious level of scrutiny, and no one should be taken at their word.

Especially if you make it look like you're trying to hide something.

 

[Rob Larrikin]

Chuck Todd was acting like an ass this morning trying to bully Elizabeth Warren into taking a DNA test to prove her Indian heritage. Warren heroically rejected the idea and fought back, "Nobody is going to take that part of me away".


It's a travesty that a powerful woman such as Warren is having her ancestry questioned in a silly attempt to undercut her presidential ambitions.

Warren is as Anglo Saxon as I am. She looks like my sister. My parents were 100% Anglo Saxon British Protestants. Warren could easily be one of my siblings, though she would not be the prettiest. It's obvious she has no Native American DNA. If she does I'll eat my hat. It's clear she lied to gain advantage over other Native Americans, denying one the education she had, in the process. Trump accused her of this for very good reason.

Consider her passion in hating Trump, which is almost as hot as Pelosi’s or Clinton’s. You don’t have to be much of a detective to figure out that if she really did have any Native American blood, she would rush to have a DNA test in order to prove Trump wrong and embarrass him as much as possible, for as long as possible, with Fake News' help. It’s all they would talk about for months and years. You couldn’t stop the woman getting the test!

So it’s obvious that her refusal to take one is proof she has none. It’s as obvious as obvious can be.

 

[Gaugingcatenate]

She does not have to prove anything to anybody. What she did -- 40 years before she got into politics -- is her own ****ing business.Jesus christ you people have no shame.

So if she had robbed a bank, had been a member of a murderous Cartel in say the human trafficking department, had coordinated with terrorists plotting against America, had gotten drunk and driven off a bridge and then left someone in the car to drown..to your way of thinking, if it was 40 plus years ago, it makes no difference, all should be forgiven?

Thats just not reasonable, it goes to past history being a primary indicator of how one will act in the future...It goes against human nature, and good sense, to be overly tolerant of those who tend to take improper advantage.

 

[SonOfDaedalus]

Wonder how much wampum the test costs? She has used this to get a leg up on others, to her advantage, seems to me the bill is coming due.

How many candidates reveal their DNA tests? But I know every candidate has revealed their tax returns. I know Trump said he would reveal his tax returns.

Almost every family has some rumor of some drop of some blood from another race. Maybe she's wrong, who cares?

When Trump shows his tax returns we can worry about Elizabeth Warren's DNA profile.

 

[Rob Larrikin]

Agreed. If you're seeking higher office -- especially the highest office in the land -- you should expect a very serious level of scrutiny, and no one should be taken at their word.

Especially if you make it look like you're trying to hide something.

The difference of course is that there is no evidence whatsoever that Trump cheated on his taxes, and every indication that the Left simply want it so they can whip up nothingburgers - something they do all the time. On the other hand the fact that Warren lied about her so called Native American heritage has plenty of evidence - her appearance. Just as the Emperor had no clothes, Warren had no Native American DNA. Someone had to say it, and that someone was Trump.

 

[OldFatGuy]

Wonder how much wampum the test costs? She has used this to get a leg up on others, to her advantage, seems to me the bill is coming due.

For $79-99, AncestryDNA will sequence your genes to help trace your geographic roots (supposedly). And the monthly membership fee of $19.99.

They aren't terribly bad going a few generations back but:

https://www.livescience.com/7384-genetic-ancestry-tests-hype-scientists.html

My grandkids are convinced I'm descended from Fled Flintstone, but not them.

BTW Cornell Medical School has been sequencing Genomes, DNA and RNA of Native Americans as part of the research for diabetes type II, a problem among Native Americans who are not obese. They'll do the test for free if you have Type II.

Did you purposefully misspell bad uncle Al's last name? Just curious.

 

[Rob Larrikin]

How many candidates reveal their DNA tests?

Every one of the Democrats if it would prove Trump wrong and embarrass him. Fake News would then use that story to besmirch him every day for months and years, as you very well know. This would be their golden opportunity. The ONLY way they would not use it is if her DNA shows she has no Native American DNA at all.

 

[OldFatGuy]

There's a big difference. Roy Moore is a pedophile. Fascinating that it took someone to point that out.

What does being a pedophile have to do with an ancestry dna test?

There's a little girl here, not quite 9 years old who is demanding I wait around before passing away so she can legally marry me. Sex is out the question, she wants to inherit my money. She is a member of Gold Diggers Unanimous.

 

[trblmkr]

On a recent episode of Finding Your Roots on GPB there was a discussion on why a grandparent's specific country of origin DNA showed up as such a small percentage of the subjects DNA. Apparently, it is a good deal more complicated than simple math. The DNA transmitted from one generation to the next can vary greatly from even one child to the next from the same parents. If you think about parents having a child with down's, and having 2 other normal children, that seems obvious. So, actually, Warren could take the test and risk coming up negative for Native American DNA, even if her grand mother had, say 25% Native American DNA.
I grew up thinking I knew my family history back several generations. When my mother passed, my oldest brother's 2nd wife was really into family tree research. I found out that all was not as I was told. And one thing was really cool that I don't think even my mother knew.

 

[trblmkr]

The difference of course is that there is no evidence whatsoever that Trump cheated on his taxes, and every indication that the Left simply want it so they can whip up nothingburgers - something they do all the time. On the other hand the fact that Warren lied about her so called Native American heritage has plenty of evidence - her appearance. Just as the Emperor had no clothes, Warren had no Native American DNA. Someone had to say it, and that someone was Trump.

Her appearance is obvious, legitimate, evidence. Really. How little you know of such things. However DJT is on the record bragging about how he does not pay any tax that he can get out of paying. Do you wonder why his helicopter is owned by a Scottish LLC, that is owned by a Delaware LLC, that is owned by another Delaware LLC? Do you assume that all that complication is to avoid those pesky American inspections? Which is likely. He has hundreds of such arrangements. They are all designed to obfuscate traceable income and minimize tax exposure. The IRA, if they had the funding and the time, would likely shred him.