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Electricity Prices Are Soaring Under Donald Trump

I do not discount the benefit you get from utilizing the incentives offered. Would you have ever done it if you had to pay the whole costs without tax credits and grants? I will bet you still benefit from regulation and law that I think should not be in effect.

What if you had to pay everything yourself? Would you have done it?

At some point, these subsidies will stop, as they cannot be maintained indefinitely.
As long as I benefit, and by extension the environment and society in general, its all good. I get the greatest direct benefit.
 
As long as I benefit, and by extension the environment and society in general, its all good. I get the greatest direct benefit.
I understand. You are no different than Exxon, etc, who accept the subsidies available.
 
I understand. You are no different than Exxon, etc, who accept the subsidies available.
The difference is, I'm the one lessening costs and environmental impact. I wonder if you make the same complaints about the fossil fuel industries as you do for renewables?
 
The difference is, I'm the one lessening costs and environmental impact. I wonder if you make the same complaints about the fossil fuel industries as you do for renewables?
Really?

What about the lithium leech fields it takes for batteries? The child labor of children in the cobalt mines, etc.

The environmental impact is just places you do not see.

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Really?

What about the lithium leech fields it takes for batteries? The child labor of children in the cobalt mines, etc.

The environmental impact is just places you do not see.

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The same thing can be sad of fossil fuels. Funny how you do not mention that. Fortunately, renewables provide for better long term benefits.
 
The same thing can be sad of fossil fuels. Funny how you do not mention that. Fortunately, renewables provide for better long term benefits.
Our environmental impact for how we extract fossil fuels has vastly improved in the USA. Other nations, not so much. If you are OK with polluting in other people's back yard, then OK.... Are you also one of those who throws trash out the window when driving?
 
So, for those keeping score at home, Trump is deliberately pushing up the cost of energy, health insurance, housing, and a decent proportion of groceries and consumer goods.
dont forget beef :ROFLMAO:
 
In Scotland nearly all consumer electricity is wind generated, with decades-worth of North Sea oil unpumped, and it's cheaper than New York State.
Double-down on hundreds of years old low-tech energy solutions while the rest of the world researches and innovates their way into the future. Long as there's one drop and one lump still underground, unsold...

The North Sea has become a goldmine wind farms.
 
are you conservatives now back on the "personal responsibility" thingy again?

what a joke
Personal responsibility was never a joke, and I never strayed from that.
 
Would it be the best investment you made if you had no subsidies in getting it? How much did it cost the rest of us tax payers? Do you have net metering?
how much is all of the "big oil" subsidies costing us??
 
He surrounds himself by "experts". Dont you remember, "only the best" 🤡 🤡 🤡
He makes plenty of mistakes, no doubt there. I am still thankful that Harris is not president.
defending the pedo.
Not at all. But at least I do not apply such terms unproven like you do. I demand more evidence than the innuendos that have been narrated by hate.
 
how much is all of the "big oil" subsidies costing us??
I don't know. The tax breaks are not costing us. The tax credits are. I do know that the renewable energy tax credits far outnumber the costs per power unit than any given to the energy companies, and as far as i know, the only tax credits they get are for improving green energy.

Run the numbers. I think you will be surprised when you separate the subsidies by type of subsidy.
 
He makes plenty of mistakes, no doubt there. I am still thankful that Harris is not president.

Not at all. But at least I do not apply such terms unproven like you do. I demand more evidence than the innuendos that have been narrated by hate.
Trump added $8 trillion to the national debt! Your pedo is a joke!

personal reasonability, my ass!
 
you cons arent taken seriously with your PR manta. Hypocrites!
Well, i am not your average conservative thinker, and I have many progressive thoughts as well. As much as people disagree with me, I consider myself a libertarian. Political graphs will place me between libertarian and constitutional conservative.
 
Trump added $8 trillion to the national debt! Your pedo is a joke!

personal reasonability, my ass!
How much of that was already built int the budget from prior 5 year spending plans?

Do you always fall so easily to propaganda? I am rather certain it would be far more if Harris were in office.
 
Well, i am not your average conservative thinker, and I have many progressive thoughts as well. As much as people disagree with me, I consider myself a libertarian. Political graphs will place me between libertarian and constitutional conservative.
you are part of the problem

libertarians are just jaded conservatives. Most of you vote for conservative presidents. You're not fooling anyone.
 
How much of that was already built int the budget from prior 5 year spending plans?

Do you always fall so easily to propaganda? I am rather certain it would be far more if Harris were in office.
8 TRILLION DOLLARS!!!!!!!
 
you are part of the problem
I understand. Most people cannot handle the truth.
libertarians are just jaded conservatives. Most of you vote for conservative presidents. You're not fooling anyone.
Considering there are only two choices unless one spoils their vote for the libertarian candidate, I vote for the lesser of two evils, which is almost always a republican.

Just a simple truth. When it comes to the libertarian value of personal responsibility, what libertarian in their right mind would vote democrat?
 
8 TRILLION DOLLARS!!!!!!!
Is their suppose to be some magic act to make that go to zero in one budget? Are your expectations really that unrealistic?
 
Our environmental impact for how we extract fossil fuels has vastly improved in the USA. Other nations, not so much. If you are OK with polluting in other people's back yard, then OK.... Are you also one of those who throws trash out the window when driving?
And it's still more environmentally and health destructive, especially when utilized than renewables or even nuclear. No surprise you dont complain about fossil fuel subsidies, but instead complain about renewables.
 
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