128shot said:They always complained my math grade was too low at a B-
ugh.
Still, the relevancy isn't there. we need more vocational training.
128shot said:how is making someone work harder pushing back grad date?
Kelzie said:I think that schools teach as much material as they can already...unless you are advocating pushing back the graduation date...
In my opinion we should have a school system like that of the UK. We decide what we want to do with our lives in Highschool and learn material relevant to that..not a myriad of other subjects. When they go to college and are curious about the other subjects then they can sign up for those classes out of their own free will in addition to taking courses relevant to their career. I'm going to be a history professor..I shouldn't have to learn mathematical formulas and scientific theories if I don't want to because it's entirely irrelevant to my career.
Napoleon's Nightingale said:In my opinion we should have a school system like that of the UK. We decide what we want to do with our lives in Highschool and learn material relevant to that..not a myriad of other subjects.
I'm going to be a history professor..I shouldn't have to learn mathematical formulas and scientific theories if I don't want to because it's entirely irrelevant to my career.
I assume you mean that a few of the courses might be out of date. It is clearlykal-el said:School-age children are being taught courses that will be completely out of date by the time they have completed them. That is terrible! What was taught in school 10 years ago is completely irrelevant in today's marketplace.
What crystal ball are we supposed to use to scry tomorrow's needs?What we are teaching the children today, dosen't correspond to tomorrow's needs.
They spend hours learning how to type, to write short hand, and at the same time, boardless computers are in the process of being designed with microchips that will record their speech and place their words right on the screen!
So you would advocate stopping teaching mathematics, sciences, language,If we continue to teach students what we did a few years ago, we won't be preparing them for the future. What we need to do is teach them what we will be doing tomorrow. Of course, that's risky, but we need to teach the youth how to take risks.
128shot said:Lets throw BS politics out the window for a minute or two. (I know, its hard, but we can do it)
I've been mulling, and thinking, I've a thread on this before, but my view has changed dramatically since then.
There are 2 things I want to address in our current average classroom.
The relevancy of what we teach,
and our average standards.
Honestly, I know already, that the USA's public school system is geared toward the lowsest person on average, I think personally we should be gearted toward the highest
I wouldn't mind encouraging self-education, but thats another subject.
Now, I've heard all the arguements before, "OH! kids will fail if you put the stresses to hard" I disagree.
All this means is more work, its not going to kill kids. The time between 3-30 is when we learn the most, why are we not trying to educate our kids to be all they can be academically?
Now, I'll address my second point.
the relevancy of what we teach is faulty. Take for example, the rise of spanish speaking immigrants in our own country, should we not be learning to be bi-lingual from the early beginnings? Now, lets take another look.
We aren't learning any new vocational skills for on the job either!
I think I've made this long enough, I'll stop before I rant too much.
Now I wait for someone to point out some spelling errors, and I laugh...
Kelzie said:I think that schools teach as much material as they can already...unless you are advocating pushing back the graduation date...
IndiConservative said:This page offers some pretty eye opening information.
"In Advanced Math U.S. students scored next to last, world-wide. In Physics the U.S. scored at the very bottom of the heap."
"for 2003 reported America's 15 year old students performed "significantly below average," ranking 29th out of 34 nations."
"Achieve, Inc., a bipartisan, nonprofit education organization formed by governors and prominent business leaders, found that math and English tests for high school diplomas require only middle school knowledge, and that those math graduation tests measure only what students in other countries learn in the seventh grade"
If its true thats pretty bad. Take it for is.
http://mwhodges.home.att.net/education.htm
ludahai said:I DO advocate lengthening the school year and perhaps even the school day.
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