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Economy growing, Democrats refuse to talk about health care, how will Democrats win in 20/18/2020?

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Right now I see an economy growing in multiple ways (unemployment shrinking, wages growing faster than inflating, GDP growing, etc.), yet Trump's biggest weakness (health care) is not getting any attention at all from Democrats. How are the Democrats going to beat Republicans in 2018 or Trump in 2020 if Democrats refuse to take on health care? As it stands, Democrats are in big trouble.
 
FreeWits said:
Right now I see an economy growing in multiple ways (unemployment shrinking, wages growing faster than inflating, GDP growing, etc.), yet Trump's biggest weakness (health care) is not getting any attention at all from Democrats. How are the Democrats going to beat Republicans in 2018 or Trump in 2020 if Democrats refuse to take on health care? As it stands, Democrats are in big trouble.
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They need to throw down a marker and relentlessly push it every election cycle until they pass it. Single payer, Public option, whatever.
 
FreeWits said:
Right now I see an economy growing in multiple ways (unemployment shrinking, wages growing faster than inflating, GDP growing, etc.), yet Trump's biggest weakness (health care) is not getting any attention at all from Democrats. How are the Democrats going to beat Republicans in 2018 or Trump in 2020 if Democrats refuse to take on health care? As it stands, Democrats are in big trouble.
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Don't think democrats are in trouble at all. They will win seats in the House in 2018 as almost all parties out of power do in off year elections. The key is turnout, and the base in pretty fired up especially the young. If they vote in droves the win will be big.

For 2020 there will be a theme when someone wins the primary. There will also be another bloody primary on the Republican side. Lastly they can go the Bill Maher route. That is to hope for a recession. We will have one eventually. So hope (Maher would not pray) that it comes late 2019/early 2020.
 
washunut said:
Don't think democrats are in trouble at all. They will win seats in the House in 2018 as almost all parties out of power do in off year elections. The key is turnout, and the base in pretty fired up especially the young. If they vote in droves the win will be big.

For 2020 there will be a theme when someone wins the primary. There will also be another bloody primary on the Republican side. Lastly they can go the Bill Maher route. That is to hope for a recession. We will have one eventually. So hope (Maher would not pray) that it comes late 2019/early 2020.
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Gaining seats for Democrats isn't good enough enough in 2018, they need to gain the majority back or they fail. It's unlikely Republicans primary Trump if for no other reason than money.
 
FreeWits said:
Gaining seats for Democrats isn't good enough enough in 2018, they need to gain the majority back or they fail. It's unlikely Republicans primary Trump if for no other reason than money.
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There will be plenty of money for Corker and Kasich.
 
FreeWits said:
Right now I see an economy growing in multiple ways (unemployment shrinking, wages growing faster than inflating, GDP growing, etc.), yet Trump's biggest weakness (health care) is not getting any attention at all from Democrats. How are the Democrats going to beat Republicans in 2018 or Trump in 2020 if Democrats refuse to take on health care? As it stands, Democrats are in big trouble.
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They plan on riding their deranged anti-Trump hate train and rely on propaganda from NYT, CNN, MSNBC, etc. If they can get enough people to buy into identity politics and to blindly hate the president due to swaths of non-stop negative coverage and hating Trump being "cool" they'll be set. I'm hoping the average American is smarter than that though.
 
digsbe said:
They plan on riding their deranged anti-Trump hate train and rely on propaganda from NYT, CNN, MSNBC, etc. If they can get enough people to buy into identity politics and to blindly hate the president due to swaths of non-stop negative coverage and hating Trump being "cool" they'll be set. I'm hoping the average American is smarter than that though.
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Don't we all. But you know we wouldn't be in this predicament if the average American was smarter. We would never have faced the disastrous choice between Trump and Hillary. Most eligible Americans don't vote and even fewer are informed and involved.
 
Health care is Trum's biggest weakness?

That's some rich dessert right there, I feel full already.
 
digsbe said:
They plan on riding their deranged anti-Trump hate train and rely on propaganda from NYT, CNN, MSNBC, etc. If they can get enough people to buy into identity politics and to blindly hate the president due to swaths of non-stop negative coverage and hating Trump being "cool" they'll be set. I'm hoping the average American is smarter than that though.
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I think the average American is perceptive, and that doesn't get a lot of play in this age of calling the other "deplorable".
 
Healthcare is a Republican weakness, as is the debt.
I predict the Dems will seize on healthcare for 2020, if they have any desire to pivot away from all things Trump hate.
 
Let's not be dumb, this is Obama's economy still.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Don't we all. But you know we wouldn't be in this predicament if the average American was smarter. We would never have faced the disastrous choice between Trump and Hillary. Most eligible Americans don't vote and even fewer are informed and involved.
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Trump was the worst choice for the GOP primary pick, I was a strong Rubio supporter and personally couldn't muster voting for the man when it came time for the presidential election. Trump won the GOP primary by pandering to a more emotional base and not so much a factual one and carried a plurality of votes to gain the nomination. The other problem is there were way too many people running in the primary splitting the ticket, so Trump could win a state's nomination with say 30% of the vote.

Hillary was the product of a crooked party that pre-appointed her to be the pick and Democracy be damned if the voters felt otherwise. They cheated their own primary to have her on the ticket because she was the party establishment.

It's my sincere hope that either Trump resigns and Pence replaces him or he is unseated in the 2020 GOP primary. I'd rather have him over a Democrat given their current platform, but within the GOP I would much prefer someone else from the party, pretty much anyone else.
 
I have posted this before but this is so easy. Remember the slogan made
famous by the Bill Clinton election team. James Carville quipped, “The economy, stupid.”

If the economy stays strong the dems are going to be fighting to gain control of the house.
The I hate Trump message only goes so far. A job and money in your pocket does much
more for people.
 
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AtlantaAdonis said:
Let's not be dumb, this is Obama's economy still.
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Here is Obama,s economy!

Fri, 01/27/2017
Following today's extremely disappointing US GDP growth data, we have the final nail in the coffin of President Obama's economic reign. Not only is the average annual growth rate of just 1.48% during Obama's business cycle the weakest of any expansion since at least 1949, he has just become the only President to have not had even one year of 3% GDP growth.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-27/barack-obama-now-only-president-history-never-have-year-3-gdp-growth
 
At the risk of channeling MMC here, I think, is the answer:



We can't handle the truth. We don't want to do the grunt work required to face the ugly truth and be the nation that governs itself.
 
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