Durham's Investigation Is Falling Apart

[The AntiDonald]

Got anything that backs up your specious contention that Manafort or Stone actually lied?
An MSNBC “report” doesn’t count.


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Stone was convicted of lying to congress. Manafort agreed to cooperate with Mueller and then changed his mind. Manafort's entire life has been a lie as has Stones and Trumps.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

The irony of it all is Trump supporters like that he's a crook. It's really hard to fight that with proof that he's a crook. We just have to out vote the hell out of them and put this disgusting administration out the door.

As Nancy said, the WH will need a good fumigation when the Trump family walks out.

I agree with this statement. I think it's generally true that a significant fraction of Trump supporters are unethical and immoral people who like the fact that Trump is a crook and cheats people and violates the law.

 

[Athanasius68]

NO. What we have here is a president (Obama) who kept his nose out of the FBI and DOJs business as it should be. You're so used to Trump butting in where he doesn't belong, you think it's normal.

Well, we know from Rice (via that memo) and Yates (from her recent testimony) they that they think the Flynn and Page debacle, respectively, was the doing of Comey--- Yates agreed it could be described that Comey went rogue.

We know from both Yates and Lynch (via Horowitz) that neither really knew what Flynn was doing with respect to the Russia probe.

We know from Strzok (via those text messages) that the White House kept close tabs on the Russia investigation, and Yates confirmed this when she learned from Obama about the Flynn/Kisylak transcripts.

So the the notion that Obama kept out of the FBI business is not supported, and the idea that the DOJ DID NOT sort of keep out of the FBI business is supported.

Charitably, the the problem could be seen as Obama NOT staying out of DOJ business and allowing Lynch and Yates to let Comey run amuck.
Or that Obama sidestepped DOJ chains of command and worked through Comey.

 

[veritas1]

You don't know what you're talking about. You've been brainwashed by pro-Trump propaganda.

Comey gave his FBI notes to a friend to release to the press. The notes are FBI property, not his property. That's a crime.

Comey signed three FISA warrants knowing the dossier was not verified in any way whatever and was basically totally fraudulent. That's a crime.


You were saying?

 

[veritas1]

Trump is a crook. Why can't you see that? How many crooked things does the man have to do before you realize he's a crook?

I guess as many as Biden has done over the last 47 years.

 

[US&THEM]

Comey gave his FBI notes to a friend to release to the press. The notes are FBI property, not his property. That's a crime.

Comey knowingly signed three FISA warrants knowing the dossier was not verified in any way whatever and was basically totally fraudulent. That's a crime.


You were saying?

Comey will be charged is what you are saying, right?

 

[US&THEM]

I guess as many as Biden has done over the last 47 years.

Such a lame response, desperate.

 

[veritas1]

Comey will be charged is what you are saying, right?

No idea. That doesn't mean he didn't commit crimes. After all, even OJ got off.

 

[veritas1]

Such a lame response, desperate.

Not at all. If you don't like crooks and won't vote for them then Biden would seem to be Exhibit A for why not to vote for someone. He's enriched his family by selling his office. That's pretty much textbook crook.

 

[US&THEM]

No idea. That doesn't mean he didn't commit crimes. After all, even OJ got off.

You want to pretend Barr isn’t searching for anything and everything for Durham to charge? We both know what you have stated is incorrect about Comey.

 

[US&THEM]

Not at all. If you don't like crooks and won't vote for them then Biden would seem to be Exhibit A for why not to vote for someone. He's enriched his family by selling his office. That's pretty much textbook crook.

Biden is a lot of things but the “enriching” claim has no there there. There has been zero evidence Biden was involved with Beau being dumb enough to take the Burisma Gig.

If you want to compare how the Trump family has exploited their Dad’s and own position to prosper the last 3 years too?

 

[W_Heisenberg]

I guess as many as Biden has done over the last 47 years.

Oh really? Like what? Can you name...one?

 

[veritas1]

You want to pretend Barr isn’t searching for anything and everything for Durham to charge? We both know what you have stated is incorrect about Comey.

No, what I stated is 100% correct about Comey. He gave his field notes to his professor friend to leak to the media. Those notes are NOT his property and he cannot release them. Similarly, he signed off on three FISA warrants without disclosing to the FISA court that the dossier was not verified OR that it was paid for by Trump's political opponents. That's two crimes right there. There may be more.

 

[veritas1]

Biden is a lot of things but the “enriching” claim has no there there. There has been zero evidence Biden was involved with Beau being dumb enough to take the Burisma Gig.

If you want to compare how the Trump family has exploited their Dad’s and own position to prosper the last 3 years too?

Right. Biden was all over the Ukraine thing as well as the China deal. He made sure that the firm his brother had just joined (again with no relevant experience) got a huge housing contract in Iraq. He greased the skids for his other brother to get heavily into Costa Rican real estate deals with the government there. These are just the ones we know about. His years as a mouthpiece for the credit card companies no doubt filled his pockets generously as well.

 

[veritas1]

Oh really? Like what? Can you name...one?

They've been well exposed. Just because you refuse to acknowledge what's there doesn't make Biden any less of a grifter. He's sold his office since coming to DC.

 

[NWRatCon]

Oh really? Like what? Can you name...one?

They've been well exposed. Just because you refuse to acknowledge what's there doesn't make Biden any less of a grifter. He's sold his office since coming to DC.

In short, the answer is "no". It's hard to link to fantasies. They have no URLs, only UnReaLs.

 

[US&THEM]

No, what I stated is 100% correct about Comey. He gave his field notes to his professor friend to leak to the media. Those notes are NOT his property and he cannot release them. Similarly, he signed off on three FISA warrants without disclosing to the FISA court that the dossier was not verified OR that it was paid for by Trump's political opponents. That's two crimes right there. There may be more.

Intent matters.

 

[US&THEM]

Right. Biden was all over the Ukraine thing as well as the China deal. He made sure that the firm his brother had just joined (again with no relevant experience) got a huge housing contract in Iraq. He greased the skids for his other brother to get heavily into Costa Rican real estate deals with the government there. These are just the ones we know about. His years as a mouthpiece for the credit card companies no doubt filled his pockets generously as well.

Biden has released his financials. Feel free to check they are public. See the difference there?

 

[veritas1]

In short, the answer is "no". It's hard to link to fantasies. They have no URLs, only UnReaLs.

I can link to stories on all these shady deals but you'll just whine about the sources. No, CNN and MSNBC won't talk about Biden's crookedness. They're too busy making up new lies about Trump. conservatives and the police.

 

[veritas1]

Biden has released his financials. Feel free to check they are public. See the difference there?

What the hell does that have to do with anything? He's been making millions for his family. Let's see THEIR financials.

 

[NWRatCon]

I can link to stories on all these shady deals but you'll just whine about the sources. No, CNN and MSNBC won't talk about Biden's crookedness. They're too busy making up new lies about Trump. conservatives and the police.

You're so much more prolific in generating new lies than any media outlet.

Be well. Enjoy the well.

 

[veritas1]

Intent matters.

Yes, and Comey's intent is perfectly clear. He basically launched the entire Russia hoax by releasing his notes to the media. Comey has been at the forefront of the scheme to sink Trump from day one. His actions and verifiable lies will catch up to him. If not, then we have no impartial system of justice anymore.

 

[veritas1]

You're so much more prolific in generating new lies than any media outlet.

Be well. Enjoy the well.

It doesn't matter how many facts are placed in front of you. You'll disbelieve them with the same vigor you've believed the BS spewed by the left about Russian collusion. There are actual FACTS on the Biden scams. That's the difference.

 

[mrjurrs]

Yes, and Comey's intent is perfectly clear. He basically launched the entire Russia hoax by releasing his notes to the media. Comey has been at the forefront of the scheme to sink Trump from day one. His actions and verifiable lies will catch up to him. If not, then we have no impartial system of justice anymore.

The only person calling this a hoax is djt, but I guess you don't believe Senate R's either.

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Report_Volume1.pdf

 

[Mr Person]

Oh really? Like what? Can you name...one?

They've been well exposed. Just because you refuse to acknowledge what's there doesn't make Biden any less of a grifter. He's sold his office since coming to DC.

It's amazing. They expect to be taken seriously, but they cannot even explain what it is Biden supposedly did that is wrong and why it is wrong.

It doesn't matter how many facts are placed in front of you. You'll disbelieve them with the same vigor you've believed the BS spewed by the left about Russian collusion. There are actual FACTS on the Biden scams. That's the difference.

The way to avoid that is to post links to sources that aren't pure crap.