Due Process Will Take 200 Years (1 Viewer)

[Rexedgar]

I’m doing what I was elected to do, remove criminals from our Country, but the Courts don’t seem to want me to do that. My team is fantastic, doing an incredible job, however, they are being stymied at every turn by even the U.S. Supreme Court, which I have such great respect for, but which seemingly doesn’t want me to send violent criminals and terrorists back to Venezuela, or any other Country, for that matter — People that came here illegally! The Courts are intimidated by the Radical Left who are, “playing the Ref.” Great Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito correctly wants to dissolve the pause on deportations. He is right on this! If we don’t get these criminals out of our Country, we are not going to have a Country any longer. We cannot give everyone a trial, because to do so would take, without exaggeration, 200 years. We would need hundreds of thousands of trials for the hundreds of thousands of Illegals we are sending out of the Country. Such a thing is not possible to do. What a ridiculous situation we are in. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/114377993807616549


Off to El Salvador!

 

[ModernDiogenes]

I’m doing what I was elected to do, remove criminals from our Country, but the Courts don’t seem to want me to do that. My team is fantastic, doing an incredible job, however, they are being stymied at every turn by even the U.S. Supreme Court, which I have such great respect for, but which seemingly doesn’t want me to send violent criminals and terrorists back to Venezuela, or any other Country, for that matter — People that came here illegally! The Courts are intimidated by the Radical Left who are, “playing the Ref.” Great Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito correctly wants to dissolve the pause on deportations. He is right on this! If we don’t get these criminals out of our Country, we are not going to have a Country any longer. We cannot give everyone a trial, because to do so would take, without exaggeration, 200 years. We would need hundreds of thousands of trials for the hundreds of thousands of Illegals we are sending out of the Country. Such a thing is not possible to do. What a ridiculous situation we are in. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/114377993807616549


Off to El Salvador!

We have this thing that makes us different, and us the foundation of what actually makes us great at all.

It’s called “The Constitution of the United States of America”. Unfortunately our current President, who swore an oath to defend it against all enemies; foreign and domestic, would recognize it if he tripped over it. He also says things that could classify him as a domestic enemy if it.

Some of us think that might mean he is violating that oath. Grounds to dismiss him from his position.

 

[Lutherf]

None of this makes a lick of difference any more since SCOTUS ruled that Trump can't deport gang members whether they are terrorists or not. At this point it looks like the courts are going to simply declare everyone that has ever set foot on US soil to be a lawful citizen and ineligible for deportation under any circumstance whatsoever.

 

[Callen]

What a crock of crap. The SC is not saying a trial. They are saying a chance to state their case before an immigration judge........an hour at most

 

[Callen]

None of this makes a lick of difference any more since SCOTUS ruled that Trump can't deport gang members whether they are terrorists or not. At this point it looks like the courts are going to simply declare everyone that has ever set foot on US soil to be a lawful citizen and ineligible for deportation under any circumstance whatsoever.

That's not what they said. Are you lying or misinformed?

 

[Lutherf]

That's not what they said. Are you lying or misinformed?

That is what they said....at 1am....without even allowing the administration to respond.

 

[T25]

If people ignore or skip "due process" by ILLEGALLY entering the U.S., why then are they entitled to "due process" when we compel them to leave?

 

[Stealers Wheel]

None of this makes a lick of difference any more since SCOTUS ruled that Trump can't deport gang members whether they are terrorists or not. At this point it looks like the courts are going to simply declare everyone that has ever set foot on US soil to be a lawful citizen and ineligible for deportation under any circumstance whatsoever.

No, the courts are simply saying we have to abide by the US Constitution. If you want to remove someone from the US, there is a procedure spelled out in the 4th amendment.

Either we are a nation of laws or not.

 

[Callen]

That is what they said....at 1am....without even allowing the administration to respond.

They put a temporary pause on deportations and requested a response . The problem was the Administration was apparently ignoring their previous ruling. All the government had to do was give them notice and allow them to present their case to an immigration judge Instead they thumbed the SC. They would have been smarter to have complied.....it might just get a lot tougher for them

 

[BirdinHand]

If people ignore or skip "due process" by ILLEGALLY entering the U.S., why then are they entitled to "due process" when we compel them to leave?

Because the Constitution holds our government to a higher standard than any singular person.

Therefore, protecting the rights of every person.

By design.

 

[Lutherf]

That's not what they said. Are you lying or misinformed?

Let me present the order -

https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/041925zr_c18e.pdf

The court created a "class" without any definition other than "detainees" and prohibited their removal. That's about as blanket an injunction as you can get and means that NOBODY can be deported.

 

[Loulit01]

If people ignore or skip "due process" by ILLEGALLY entering the U.S., why then are they entitled to "due process" when we compel them to leave?

Seriously?

 

[Mr Person]

None of this makes a lick of difference any more since SCOTUS ruled that Trump can't deport gang members whether they are terrorists or not. At this point it looks like the courts are going to simply declare everyone that has ever set foot on US soil to be a lawful citizen and ineligible for deportation under any circumstance whatsoever.

That's not what they said. Are you lying or misinformed?

When is he not lying?

It's simple. He has a sociopathic disregard for other human beings and simply doesn't care what happens to brown people, because he suspects it can't happen to him. If Trump started burning people at the stake, he'd be right here defending it.

Remember: there is no bottom with MAGA. They all see to have this disregard. They're all somewhere between not giving a shit and actively salvating the thought of people getting hurt just as long as TrumpFox told them those people are their enemies.


Whenever you think "nah, they can't really think that", they end up proving you wrong. He knows this guy is innocent. He knows that when the Trump admin pressures a cop to make up an informant who supposedly claims the guy belongs to a gang in a city he doesn't live in and hasn't even been to, it's a lie. He knows the guy was here innocently.

He just doesn't care because the guy is not him or his own. He's brown. And making a show of not caring is, to him, virtue-signalling strength

 

[Stealers Wheel]

If people ignore or skip "due process" by ILLEGALLY entering the U.S., why then are they entitled to "due process" when we compel them to leave?

And you could say the exact same thing when anyone committs any crime.

If people ignore or skip "due process" by illegally cheating on their taxes, committing embezellment, breaking into a home, assaulting a senior citizen, or robbing a bank in the US, why then are they entitled to "due process" when we put them in prison?

If you're going to be consistent, you have to decry 'due process' for anyone who is accused of commiting a crime.

In other words, you want to nullify the 4th, 5th, and 6th amendments, but only for people accused of crimes.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

None of this makes a lick of difference any more since SCOTUS ruled that Trump can't deport gang members whether they are terrorists or not. At this point it looks like the courts are going to simply declare everyone that has ever set foot on US soil to be a lawful citizen and ineligible for deportation under any circumstance whatsoever.

You have built up quite the fantasy world.

Why did you make yourself the victim?

You could have imagined it any way you wanted and you made yourself the victim in your own fantasy

 

[Redress]

Let me present the order -

https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/041925zr_c18e.pdf

The court created a "class" without any definition other than "detainees" and prohibited their removal. That's about as blanket an injunction as you can get and means that NOBODY can be deported.

Well, no. The order states that the "putative class", which would be those in the ACLU lawsuit, cannot be removed until the court says otherwise, presumably when the suit has been ruled on by the 5th circuit court(or after appeals, though that remains to be seen). The application is here(https://www.supremecourt.gov/Docket...0418172902261_2025.04.18 AARP Application.pdf), and explains who it is filing for.

 

[TheDoctorWasIn]

Let me present the order -

https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/041925zr_c18e.pdf

The court created a "class" without any definition other than "detainees" and prohibited their removal. That's about as blanket an injunction as you can get and means that NOBODY can be deported.

The "class" are the group making up the plaintiffs in the case - not "detainees" in general.

 

[TheDoctorWasIn]

If people ignore or skip "due process" by ILLEGALLY entering the U.S., why then are they entitled to "due process" when we compel them to leave?

Because otherwise there's nothing stopping the next Democratic President from unilaterally declaring you to be an "illegal immigrant," and shipping you off to a gulag in South America.

You guys never think this stuff through.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

I’m doing what I was elected to do, remove criminals from our Country, but the Courts don’t seem to want me to do that. My team is fantastic, doing an incredible job, however, they are being stymied at every turn by even the U.S. Supreme Court, which I have such great respect for, but which seemingly doesn’t want me to send violent criminals and terrorists back to Venezuela, or any other Country, for that matter — People that came here illegally! The Courts are intimidated by the Radical Left who are, “playing the Ref.” Great Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito correctly wants to dissolve the pause on deportations. He is right on this! If we don’t get these criminals out of our Country, we are not going to have a Country any longer. We cannot give everyone a trial, because to do so would take, without exaggeration, 200 years. We would need hundreds of thousands of trials for the hundreds of thousands of Illegals we are sending out of the Country. Such a thing is not possible to do. What a ridiculous situation we are in. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/114377993807616549


Off to El Salvador!

Sounds like Trump should have known​

to strengthen the judicial infrastructure and hire more judges and associated personnel​

to meet those goals​

Or,

We could just
GIVE UP, WHINE, & CRY LIKE TRUMP, pleading, "I can't do it! It's too hard! It's unfair!"


After all if
it's UNFAIR! and too hard for wittle Twumpy, then no one can do it

 

[Simon W. Moon]

If people ignore or skip "due process" by ILLEGALLY entering the U.S., why then are they entitled to "due process" when we compel them to leave?

Do you trust government personnel be infallible and always ethical?

IF the government were run by infallible people who were 100% ethical and who had 100% perfect and complete knowledge,
I'd be more inclined to see things that way.

While government is run by humans who are fallible and not always as ethical as they could be,
we should probably keep the protections against government overreach like due process.

 

[johnwk]

What a crock of crap. The SC is not saying a trial. They are saying a chance to state their case before an immigration judge........an hour at most

What “process” is due to an illegal entrant alien under the Alien Enemies Act when restrained and held for deportation as an alien?​

The only process which may be due under the Alien Enemies Act when the President’s Administration identifies an alien to be deported is, a writ of habeas corpus and it would be limited to determining whether or not the subject in question is in fact a foreign national, and not a citizen of the United States.

The bottom line is, the very purpose and legislative intent of the Alien Enemies Act was to provide the President with extraordinary power, including unobstructed discretionary deportation power, to deal with and remove aliens on American soil who may pose a threat to the general welfare of the United States and her citizens.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Because otherwise there's nothing stopping the next Democratic President from unilaterally declaring you to be an "illegal immigrant," and shipping you off to a gulag in South America.

You guys never think this stuff through.

I have noticed that a number of Trumpco customer show a reluctance to fully imagine the point where the rubber meets the road

Trumpco customers seems to be more about grand words and vague gestures than details

 

[Simon W. Moon]

What “process” is due to an illegal entrant alien under the Alien Enemies Act when restrained and held for deportation as an alien?​

The only process which may be due under the Alien Enemies Act when the President’s Administration identifies an alien to be deported is, a writ of habeas corpus and it would be limited to determining whether or not the subject in question is in fact a foreign national, and not a citizen of the United States.

The bottom line is, the very purpose and legislative intent of the Alien Enemies Act was to provide the President with extraordinary power, including unobstructed discretionary deportation power, to deal with and remove aliens on American soil who may pose a threat to the general welfare of the United States and her citizens.

NO.

The bottom line is Americans deserve protection from government over reach.

Americans First!

 

[Callen]

What “process” is due to an illegal entrant alien under the Alien Enemies Act when restrained and held for deportation as an alien?​

The only process which may be due under the Alien Enemies Act when the President’s Administration identifies an alien to be deported is, a writ of habeas corpus and it would be limited to determining whether or not the subject in question is in fact a foreign national, and not a citizen of the United States.

The bottom line is, the very purpose and legislative intent of the Alien Enemies Act was to provide the President with extraordinary power, including unobstructed discretionary deportation power, to deal with and remove aliens on American soil who may pose a threat to the general welfare of the United States and her citizens.

The Supreme Court when allowing the use of the act stipulated that the deportees must be given notice so they mght present their case to an immigration judge That was the ruling

 

[johnwk]

The Supreme Court when allowing the use of the act stipulated that the deportees must be given notice so they mght present their case to an immigration judge That was the ruling

Source and quote.