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Drunk with Anger Issues

dave8383 said:
I find it self-explanatory and that it's your logic that's lacking any consistency, sorry. Maybe you didn't serve in the infantry?
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Maybe you didn't serve in the infantry either, but there doesn't seem to be any relevance to that.
 
calamity said:
You mean like you just did by not knowing a 38 is actually a .357 while .38 is exactly .380 in caliber? lol...that was great. Do it again.
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Yeah...rich..is that you...???
First a .38 is not the same as a.357. They are quite different cartridges.
Second a .38 is not the same cartridge as a .380.
Typical anti gunner caught lying again.
 
dave8383 said:
Nonsense. If you don't the difference between the main battle weapon of an infantry unit and a shotgun I'm not going to bother to explain it to you.
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Which infantry unit uses civilian AR pattern rifles?
 
dave8383 said:
Nonsense. If you don't the difference between the main battle weapon of an infantry unit and a shotgun I'm not going to bother to explain it to you.
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Well actually the AR 15 is not used by the military.
While the shotgun is a battle weapon
 
dave8383 said:
Hilarious. I said main battle weapon.
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Shotguns are, can be, and have been issued for use by soldiers. Presumably in the event of battles and such.

When have civilian AR type rifles been used as main battle weapons?
 
jaeger19 said:
When has the civilian AR 15 platform been used by us forces as a main battle weapon?
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We've been over this about 500 times. How often does an infantryman use full auto? Not very often. What's the difference between an AR15 and an M16 on semi-auto? There's is no difference except that the M16 has the full-auto capability but isn't using it while it's firing semi. So when a dumbshit civilian decides he's going to kill a bunch of people in a bar, or wherever, using an AR15, he is using the main battle weapon of the US infantry on semi-auto except that he doesn't have the rarely used full-auto capability.

And no, a shotgun is not the main battle weapon of the US infantry.
 
jaeger19 said:
Yeah...rich..is that you...???
First a .38 is not the same as a.357. They are quite different cartridges.
Second a .38 is not the same cartridge as a .380.
Typical anti gunner caught lying again.
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A 38 special as with all revolvers tagged "38's," use cartridges ranging in diameter from .357 up to .370 or so. A pico Beretta does not use a .357. It uses a .38 caliber bullet, i.e. the .380 dia; just like I said. So, I was correct. You, however, were wrong, again.
 
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calamity said:
A 38 special as with all revolvers tagged "38's," use cartridges ranging in diameter from .357 up to .370 or so. A pico Beretta does not use a .357. It uses a .38 caliber bullet, i.e. the .380 dia; just like I said. So, I was correct. You, however, were wrong, again.
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You're conflating cartridges with bullets. Do you have a reference supporting your contention that a .380 ACP uses a .380 caliber bullet?
 
RF667799 said:
You're conflating cartridges with bullets. Do you have a reference supporting your contention that a .380 ACP uses a .380 caliber bullet?
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Gunner Pedantry is not my concern. Point is the term "bullet" is basically interchangeable with "cartridge," and .38 is exactly .380.
 
dave8383 said:
We've been over this about 500 times. How often does an infantryman use full auto? Not very often. What's the difference between an AR15 and an M16 on semi-auto? There's is no difference except that the M16 has the full-auto capability but isn't using it while it's firing semi. So when a dumbshit civilian decides he's going to kill a bunch of people in a bar, or wherever, using an AR15, he is using the main battle weapon of the US infantry on semi-auto except that he doesn't have the rarely used full-auto capability.

And no, a shotgun is not the main battle weapon of the US infantry.
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What if he uses an M1 carbine, a Ruger Mini14, or a Springfield Armory M1A?
 
calamity said:
Gunner Pedantry is not my concern. Point is bullet is basically interchangeable with cartridge and, .38 is exactly .380.
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ROFL! It's your argument! Support your point.
 
calamity said:
A 38 special as with all revolvers tagged "38's," use cartridges ranging in diameter from .357 up to .370 or so. A pico Beretta does not use a .357. It uses a .38 caliber bullet, i.e. the .380 dia; just like I said. So, I was correct. You, however, were wrong, again.
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Sigh..actually you are wrong again.
Not all revolvers in 38 special can handle .357 because they are vastly different cartridges. The .357 mag max pressure is about DOUBLE that of a .38 special. Thus it can be very dangerous to shoot a .357 in a firearm only designated for .38 special.
A .38 special or .38. Is a vastly different cartridge than a .380 app or.380
You were wrong and now you are doubling down on the lie.
 
calamity said:
Gunner Pedantry is not my concern. Point is the term "bullet" is basically interchangeable with "cartridge," and .38 is exactly .380.
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Holy crap batman..that is not true!!! . Bullet is not interchangeable with cartridge..
You should never own a firearm..
 
jaeger19 said:
Sigh..actually you are wrong again.
Not all revolvers in 38 special can handle .357 because they are vastly different cartridges. The .357 mag max pressure is about DOUBLE that of a .38 special. Thus it can be very dangerous to shoot a .357 in a firearm only designated for .38 special.
A .38 special or .38. Is a vastly different cartridge than a .380 app or.380
You were wrong and now you are doubling down on the lie.
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If you're talking cartridges, the .357 Magnum was developed from the .38 Special but the case was lengthened specifically to prevent it from being chambered in .38 Special revolvers. Much the same as with the 44 Magnum developed from the 44 Special.
 
jaeger19 said:
Sigh..actually you are wrong again.
Not all revolvers in 38 special can handle .357 because they are vastly different cartridges. The .357 mag max pressure is about DOUBLE that of a .38 special. Thus it can be very dangerous to shoot a .357 in a firearm only designated for .38 special.
A .38 special or .38. Is a vastly different cartridge than a .380 app or.380
You were wrong and now you are doubling down on the lie.
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Quit while you are behind. A 38 is not a .357, and I never said it was. But, a 38 does have a diameter of .357 inch. I know; this is hard. That's why I suggested reading up on it. ...lol.
 
jaeger19 said:
Holy crap batman..that is not true!!! . Bullet is not interchangeable with cartridge..
You should never own a firearm..
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For the average bear, the terms are interchangeable. Bullet, slug, cartridge, clip, magazine, gun, firearm, rifle, pistol, assault weapon...no one other than the pedantic cares how those are used. But, .38 does equal .380 the world around. Math is consistent that way.
 
calamity said:
For the average bear, the terms are interchangeable. Bullet, slug, cartridge, clip, magazine, gun, firearm, rifle, pistol, assault weapon...no one other than the pedantic cares how those are used. But, .38 does equal .380 the world around. Math is consistent that way.
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It's funny when someone tries to make an argument based on technicality and upon being proven wrong, tries to throw the whole thing off to "pedantics."
 
RF667799 said:
It's funny when someone tries to make an argument based on technicality and upon being proven wrong, tries to throw the whole thing off to "pedantics."
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No. I posted a picture of a gun I liked, and someone decided to make a big deal out of it. Why? I have no idea.

When I explained the the 9mm I posted was not the gun I really liked the most but came close to the Pico that I did like the most, we got into the finer points of what it means to use a .38 diameter cartridge. The poster tried to tell me I said that the Pico uses a cartridge with .357 diameter, which of course I did not.

Then, it got all weird, as the poster began saying 38 special revolvers do not use a .357 magnum, which makes no sense in any way shape or form, since it is like saying a diesel does not use gasoline.

So it always goes in GCF.
 
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calamity said:
Quit while you are behind. A 38 is not a .357, and I never said it was. But, a 38 does have a diameter of .357 inch. I know; this is hard. That's why I suggested reading up on it. ...lol.
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Yes you did say a 38 is actually a .357.
 
calamity said:
No. I posted a picture of a gun I liked and someone decided to make a big deal out of it. When I said the gun I wanted to post was the Pico that uses a .38 diameter cartridge, the poster tried to tell me it uses a cartridge with .357 diameter, which of course it does not. So it always goes in GCF.
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Where are you measuring the cartridge? A .380 ACP uses a bullet with a .355 diameter.
 
RF667799 said:
Where are you measuring the cartridge? A .380 ACP uses a bullet with a .355 diameter.
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I'm not. I'm pointing to a mathematical fact. .38 = .380.

Everyone knows that diametrically speaking the 38, 357, 380 and 9mm are the same damn caliber....well, at least they should. Maybe they don't do math so good....lol
 
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