• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Drone strikes US outpost in Syria

Rogue Valley

Lead or get out of the way
DP Veteran
Joined
Apr 18, 2013
Messages
110,421
Reaction score
100,626
Location
Barsoom
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Independent

iu

8.15.22
A base housing U.S. troops in eastern Syria was attacked by multiple drones early on Monday, though no casualties or damage were reported, according to a Pentagon statement. The attack took place near al-Tanf Garrison, which sits near the borders of Syria, Jordan and Iraq and is run by the U.S. military and American-backed Syrian opposition fighters known as Maghaweir al-Thowra (MaT), the Defense Department said. The coalition forces “successfully engaged one [unmanned aerial system] preventing its impact. A second UAS detonated within a MaT forces compound resulting in zero casualties or reported damage. The other attempted one-way UAS strikes were not successful,” the statement read. No group has yet claimed responsibility for the attack. U.S. and coalition troops are based at al-Tanf to train Syrian forces to counter ISIS militants and keep the terrorist group from resurging in the region.

U.S. officials believe Iran provided resources and encouraged a drone attack in October at al-Tanf, which is believed to have included five drones laden with explosive charges. Maj. Gen. John Brennan, the head of Combined Joint Task Force-Operation Inherent Resolve, on Monday condemned the “hostile activity” and called for an end to such attacks. The incidents “put the lives of innocent Syrian civilians at risk and undermine the significant efforts by our Partner Forces to maintain the lasting defeat of ISIS,” he said.


Perhaps the work of the IRGC.
 
Perhaps the work of the IRGC.
I have a suspicion that drone strikes against US military installations will become far more frequent in the coming years. We are spread all over the planet and make terrific targets for those who would do us harm. It would not surprise me if, in the near future, we're either forced to reduce our global presence, harden our bases against attack, or both.
 
I have a suspicion that drone strikes against US military installations will become far more frequent in the coming years. We are spread all over the planet and make terrific targets for those who would do us harm. It would not surprise me if, in the near future, we're either forced to reduce our global presence, harden our bases against attack, or both.

Now that the Shale Revolution has made the United States energy independent, I think it is high time we call it quits in the Middle East entirely. Let us pull out our soldiers, special forces and carrier groups. Maintain good relations with the Israelis and the Kurds for purposes and trade and intelligence. Let the Saudis and Iranians cut each others throats and bankrupt each other by making the Strait of Hormuz impassible. The biggest losers in such a conflict would be Iran and her client states, Saudi Arabia and her client states, and the People's Republic of China. Music to my ears as far as I am concerned.
 
Last edited:

iu




Perhaps the work of the IRGC.

Just as likely the Russians or with the cooperation/blessing of the Russians. Payback for the HIMARS.
 
Now that the Shale Revolution has made the United States energy independent, I think it is high time we call it quits in the Middle East entirely. Let us pull out our soldiers, special forces and carrier groups. Maintain good relations with the Israelis and the Kurds for purposes and trade and intelligence. Let the Saudis and Iranians cut each others throats and bankrupt each other by making the Strait of Hormuz impassible. The biggest losers in such a conflict would be Iran and her client states, Saudi Arabia and her client states, and the People's Republic of China. Music to my ears as far as I am concerned.
A case well made.
 

iu




Perhaps the work of the IRGC.

Gee, it’s almost like killing Soleimani didn’t turn out to be such a good idea after all, despite the temporary emotional satisfaction.
 
Gee, it’s almost like killing Soleimani didn’t turn out to be such a good idea after all, despite the temporary emotional satisfaction.
what? Soleimani was head of Quds force and a big organizer of terrorism in the region

How about we JUST LEAVE?
there were thousands of AQ and ISIS in the Bagram prison.. we left them there to be released by Taliban, but we left anyhow
 
what? Soleimani was head of Quds force and a big organizer of terrorism in the region

How about we JUST LEAVE? there wrere thousands of AQ and ISIS in the Bagram prison.. we left them there to be releasd by Taliban, but we left anyhow

Soleimani was also a high ranking officer in the Iranian military. It’s the equivalent of, say, the Chinese blowing up Admiral McRaven or General Mattis for the US training insurgent groups— such as the Kurds— who are seen as “terrorists” by NATO member Turkey. Furthermore, the strike was arguably a violation of the sovereignty of the ir Iraqi government WE created.

Furthermore, the strike was actively counterproductive, as Soleimani was a leading figure in the fight against ISIS, organizing joint operations between Kurdish and Shia fighters, and playing a vital role in the recapture of cities like Tikrit.


You do realize the Taliban themselves are actively fighting against ISIS right now, right?
 
Just as likely the Russians or with the cooperation/blessing of the Russians. Payback for the HIMARS.
As dumb as the Russians are, even they wouldn't slap a pit bull.
 
As dumb as the Russians are, even they wouldn't slap a pit bull.

Calling the US a “pit bull” is downright comical....and the Russians have “slapped” us many times over the years, which makes your argument nonsensical. For example, they helped blow plenty of US bombers out of the sky over Hanoi and Haiphong.

The Iranians are more than capable of doing it themselves, but arguing that the Russians “wouldn’t dare” to hit back, as they see it, is ignorant.
 
And i think it's fair to say we've dealt payback in spades in Ukraine :cool:

Oh no, our “payback” was giving the Mujahideen surface to air missiles with zero oversight. Sound familiar?
 
Gee, it’s almost like killing Soleimani didn’t turn out to be such a good idea after all, despite the temporary emotional satisfaction.
Because of a attack that killed no one and damaged nothing. Yea sorry but no killing that pos was a great idea.


But the fact that you immediately go to this says quit a bit about you.
 
Calling the US a “pit bull” is downright comical....and the Russians have “slapped” us many times over the years, which makes your argument nonsensical. For example, they helped blow plenty of US bombers out of the sky over Hanoi and Haiphong.

The Iranians are more than capable of doing it themselves, but arguing that the Russians “wouldn’t dare” to hit back, as they see it, is ignorant.
At some point you have let getting kicked out of basic training go.

Keeping all that hate inside you isn’t healthy.
 
Because of a attack that killed no one and damaged nothing. Yea sorry but no killing that pos was a great idea.


But the fact that you immediately go to this says quit a bit about you.

Because Trump had a fleabrained idea to try and get temporary emotional satisfaction from “payback”. The strike actively hindered the fight against ISIS.

Oh, and pointing out the fact that US troops could be easily be targeted under the exact same “justification” we used is entirely relevant.
 
At some point you have let getting kicked out of basic training go.

Keeping all that hate inside you isn’t healthy.

Crying about “hatred” because I called out jingoistic ignorance is meaningless.
 
Because Trump had a fleabrained idea to try and get temporary emotional satisfaction from “payback”. The strike actively hindered the fight against ISIS.

Oh, and pointing out the fact that US troops could be easily be targeted under the exact same “justification” we used is entirely relevant.
Killing a pos shit who has a direct hand in killing hundreds of Americans and Iraq’s is not a fleabrained idea nor is it just emotional satisfaction.

But tell me do you have some evidence that going after him was Trumps plan and not an operation the military and IC brought to to him for approval.

And that you think Iran needed this justification to attack and kill Americans when it was them killing Americans that led to us targeting him showed your level of thinking.

But I get that you now have to attack America for everything since you kicked it off basic training. It’s painfully obvious.
Someday you need to let that hate go.
 
Crying about “hatred” because I called out jingoistic ignorance is meaningless.
You think that your sudden change of heat that happen just after you got the boot is not obvious. Please.
 
You think that your sudden change of heat that happen just after you got the boot is not obvious. Please.

Oh, I know full well my blind patriotism faded away when faced with reality. You clinging to those delusions says more about you than me ;)
 
Killing a pos shit who has a direct hand in killing hundreds of Americans and Iraq’s is not a fleabrained idea nor is it just emotional satisfaction.

But tell me do you have some evidence that going after him was Trumps plan and not an operation the military and IC brought to to him for approval.

And that you think Iran needed this justification to attack and kill Americans when it was them killing Americans that led to us targeting him showed your level of thinking.

But I get that you now have to attack America for everything since you kicked it off basic training. It’s painfully obvious.
Someday you need to let that hate go.

Actively hurting the actually relevant fight against ISIS because “waaah! He fought against us when we blundered into Iraq over a decade ago” is idiotic.

Trump was planning to kill Soleimani practically since becoming president. Both Bush and Obama rejected a a plan when they were president as being deeply dangerous and risking starting an entirely new war. As early as 2015 Trump was fantasizing about murdering Soleimani.

“Former U.S. presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama both considered and rejected targeting Qasem Soleimani, reasoning that it would escalate to a full-scale war. Retired CIA officer Marc Polymeropoulos told The New York Times that Soleimani, unlike other adversaries killed by the U.S., felt comfortable operating in the open and was not hard to find. He often took photographs of himself and openly taunted U.S. forces.[46] In September 2015, radio host Hugh Hewitt asked Donald Trump about Soleimani. After initially confusing him with a Kurdish leader, Trump argued that leaders like Soleimani would be dead under his administration.[51]”


It was a strike entirely based on the fantasies of “payback” for daring to fight against the United States

By the exact same “logic” we used ANY US servicemen involved in training or arming the Kurds would be a “legitimate target”.

It actively undermined Iraqi sovereignty and hurt the fight against ISIS. It was utterly moronic. And no amount of tearfully wailing “you just hate America” can change that.
 
And as for the Mujahideen, providing them Stingers enabled them to sell said weapons to all manner of terrorist groups and rogue nations....including ****ing North Korea.

Brilliant strategic planning there 😂
 
And as for the Mujahideen, providing them Stingers enabled them to sell said weapons to all manner of terrorist groups and rogue nations....including ****ing North Korea.

Brilliant strategic planning there 😂

You understand Strategic Planning like a three year old understand quantum physics.
 
Back
Top Bottom