Driverless car pulled over for crossing into oncoming lane in construction area

[Chock Full o Nuts]

Driverless Waymo gets pulled over by police and it's captured on body cam

This is something you probably didn't consider: self-driving Waymo cars can get pulled over by police. In fact, it happened last month in Phoenix and it was caught on body camera.

www.fox10phoenix.com

Never really thought about it. Cameras able to determine its getting 'popped' and pull over?

I guess you just throw the ticket on the seat?

 

[Allan]

Black Waymo cars are 3 times more likely to be shot by police.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Black Waymo cars are 3 times more likely to be shot by police.

Okay now that is funny... good one

 

[Lovebug]

That is interesting. I'm surprised nothing bad happened. The program must have realized it was in the wrong lane? So what happens next?

 

[Risky Thicket]

I have encountered them a few times wandering around Phoenix. Twice I have given a Waymo car the finger and shouted "ASSHOLE". Being Phoenix I expected the driver's window to roll down followed by a gun pointed in my direction but nothing happened either time. As a result I have determined that Waymo cars are safer than Phoenix drivers.

 

[Lovebug]

I have encountered them a few times wandering around Phoenix. Twice I have given a Waymo car the finger and shouted "ASSHOLE". Being Phoenix I expected the driver's window to roll down followed by a gun pointed in my direction but nothing happened either time. As a result I have determined that Waymo cars are safer than Phoenix drivers.

All we have around here are pick up trucks and SUVs. Talk about dangerous drivers.
We also had a report from down south of us that a "lady" peed at a local Walmart parking lot.
Strange happenings all around us, some stranger than others.

 

[Chomsky]

All we have around here are pick up trucks and SUVs. Talk about dangerous drivers.
We also had a report from down south of us that a "lady" peed at a local Walmart parking lot.
Strange happenings all around us, some stranger than others.

The lot was probably cleaner than the Walmart Restroom!

 

[Chomsky]

Driverless Waymo gets pulled over by police and it's captured on body cam

This is something you probably didn't consider: self-driving Waymo cars can get pulled over by police. In fact, it happened last month in Phoenix and it was caught on body camera.

www.fox10phoenix.com

Never really thought about it. Cameras able to determine its getting 'popped' and pull over?

I guess you just throw the ticket on the seat?

I would hope there's a mechanism in place to ticket/fine the rideshare corp in instances like this?.

Otherwise, I'm going to be very unhappy!

 

[Common Sense 1]

Saw a different vedio about this. Phoenix PD officers receive training on how to deal with driverless vehicles. There is some type of a help button in the vehicle that the officer can push and it automatically connects to a person with the company. There is also a system that a ticket can be written but that is not a priority for the officers.

 

[Chock Full o Nuts]

I would hope there's a mechanism in place to ticket/fine the rideshare corp in instances like this?.

Otherwise, I'm going to be very unhappy!

Was curious of the same. As some reads, 'someone' must be at fault.
Seems some places may still have some catching up to do law wise.

Driverless cars swerve traffic citations in California

Arizona and Texas are ahead in terms of regulating autonomous vehicles

www.theregister.com

Self-driving cars can receive parking tickets, but get off scot-free for violations while in motion if no driver is behind the wheel. In 2018 a test driver operating a Cruise car in self-driving mode was ticketed when the vehicle failed to yield to a pedestrian at a crosswalk. But traffic crimes committed by driverless vehicles can go unpunished since citations can only be issued to humans who were at the wheel.

"Technology evolves rapidly and, at times, faster than legislation or regulations can adapt to the changes," San Francisco's Police Chief Bill Scott wrote in the memo.

Should be no question, 'your' vehicle made an infraction, pay up and take points! Suspend the AV 'license'!

Does appear though Arizona is up to date on being able to cite, and rightfully so, being apparently the largest market at present.

 

[EnigmaO01]

Black Waymo cars are 3 times more likely to be shot by police.

 

[zincwarrior]

Thats an interesting scenario - PoPo pulling over driverless cars.

"Pull over!"
"Screw...you...meatbag."

 

[rhinefire]

unplug it

 

[Chomsky]

Was curious of the same. As some reads, 'someone' must be at fault.
Seems some places may still have some catching up to do law wise.

Driverless cars swerve traffic citations in California

Arizona and Texas are ahead in terms of regulating autonomous vehicles

www.theregister.com

Should be no question, 'your' vehicle made an infraction, pay up and take points! Suspend the AV 'license'!

Does appear though Arizona is up to date on being able to cite, and rightfully so, being apparently the largest market at present.

And just as importantly, is there legal liability for these transgressions?

 

[mike2810]

I would ticket the company. They should be responsible for any fines.

 

[Allan]

And just as importantly, is there legal liability for these transgressions?

If there was an accident certainly a civil damages case to be made.

But who is at fault? I gather from the cop's comments that there was a construction area involved. These cars have to make decisions to negotiate unusual situations.

Did the car's computer mess up, or was the traffic diversion set up improperly, or a bit of both?

 

[Chock Full o Nuts]

And just as importantly, is there legal liability for these transgressions?

Absolutely should be. Someone(s) designed, programmed, and maintains these rides.
So the company that employees these people should be held to the same standard and consequences as any person operating a vehicle would be.

 

[Chock Full o Nuts]

If there was an accident certainly a civil damages case to be made.

But who is at fault? I gather from the cop's comments that there was a construction area involved. These cars have to make decisions to negotiate unusual situations.

Did the car's computer mess up, or was the traffic diversion set up improperly, or a bit of both?

Construction areas can be tricky for even many people.
I've seen it. "You stupid %$$&%^$##!"

So if they feel their AV may not be up to the task. Alter the software for mandatory detour until work is complete.
They can do it.

 

[mike2810]

If there was an accident certainly a civil damages case to be made.

But who is at fault? I gather from the cop's comments that there was a construction area involved. These cars have to make decisions to negotiate unusual situations.

Did the car's computer mess up, or was the traffic diversion set up improperly, or a bit of both?

imo, the car company is at fault. They are responsible for the vehicle and its programing.

As far as your question regarding the traffic diversion set up. would that be a viable excuse if a human drove their car into the incoming traffic lane?

 

[Roadvirus]

Driverless Waymo gets pulled over by police and it's captured on body cam

This is something you probably didn't consider: self-driving Waymo cars can get pulled over by police. In fact, it happened last month in Phoenix and it was caught on body camera.

www.fox10phoenix.com

Never really thought about it. Cameras able to determine its getting 'popped' and pull over?

I guess you just throw the ticket on the seat?

Bad KITT! Bad bad KITT! Back to the garage with you!

 

[Chock Full o Nuts]

Bad KITT! Bad bad KITT! Back to the garage with you!

I can't do that Michael. I have a passenger that needs to get to the airport.

 

[Allan]

imo, the car company is at fault. They are responsible for the vehicle and its programing.

As far as your question regarding the traffic diversion set up. would that be a viable excuse if a human drove their car into the incoming traffic lane?

It would if the diversion is set up incorrectly and a driver became confused as a result.

 

[Allan]

Bad KITT! Bad bad KITT! Back to the garage with you!

Maybe KITT, maybe HAL. HAL is indifferent to head on collisions.

 

[Chomsky]

If there was an accident certainly a civil damages case to be made.

But who is at fault? I gather from the cop's comments that there was a construction area involved. These cars have to make decisions to negotiate unusual situations.

Did the car's computer mess up, or was the traffic diversion set up improperly, or a bit of both?

Regardless, I believe there should be liability for the infraction.

 

[Roadvirus]

Maybe KITT, maybe HAL. HAL is indifferent to head on collisions.

Or KARR, KITT's evil twin prototype.