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Dr Birx blames trump for 350,000 dead Americans

craig said:
Each of your citations are refutable. But it doesn't really matter unless you think the Chinese intentionally released it on the world.
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I don’t think the Chinese intentionally released COVID-19. If they ever do release a bio weapon it will be more deadly and not start out in China.
 
Batcat said:
I don’t think the Chinese intentionally released COVID-19. If they ever do release a bio weapon it will be more deadly and not start out in China.
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Then what is your point?
 
TU Curmudgeon said:
And, since the funding started during the Presidency of George W Bush, that would mean that he should accept some responsibility - right?

And, since the funding continued during the presidency of Barack Obama, that would mean that he should accept some responsibility - right?

And, since the funding continued into the presidency of Donald J Trump, that would mean that he should accept some responsibility - right?

And, since the funding came from taxes voted/approved by the US House of Representatives and the US Senate, that would mean that they should accept some responsibility - right?

And since the members of the US House of Representative and the US Senate were selected by the American voters, that would mean that they (or at least the ones who voted in favour of the winners of the elections) should accept some responsibility - right?

And since all of the people listed above were the products of education and socialization determined by their parents, that would mean that their parents should accept some responsibility - right?
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Perhaps we should blame everything on the Evil White Man. The Evil White Man is a popular target for all the ills in the world today.
 
Batcat said:
Perhaps we should blame everything on the Evil White Man. The Evil White Man is a popular target for all the ills in the world today.
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We are all mixed race. Race is a social construction created to divide us.
 
Threegoofs said:
Good point.
The death rate is higher.

Probably an underestimate. We had 500k excess deaths by December.

Here’s evidence, although I know you rather would believe whatever you come up with in your own fevered dreams.

jamanetwork.com

Learning From Excess Pandemic Deaths

A comprehensive ability to anticipate and plan for future events distinguishes Homo sapiens from lower animals. But humans are flawed planners. Focusing on the near term has undoubtedly served humans well throughout evolutionary history, yet often leads to unintended consequences. Individuals eat...
jamanetwork.com jamanetwork.com
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Vague non statements that don't provide hard numbers are not legitimate.

Approximately 2.5 million people died in the united States in 2019. Why don't we see 3.2 million deaths in 2020? Why is this number not given?

I'll explain, it's because they can't give this number it would be a lie.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Vague non statements that don't provide hard numbers are not legitimate.

Approximately 2.5 million people died in the united States in 2019. Why don't we see 3.2 million deaths in 2020? Why is this number not given?

I'll explain, it's because they can't give this number it would be a lie.
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www.nytimes.com

574,000 More U.S. Deaths Than Normal Since Covid-19 Struck (Published 2021)

Since the coronavirus pandemic began sweeping across the country last year, deaths have been 21 percent above normal. See the breakdown by state.
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CLAX1911 said:
Vague non statements that don't provide hard numbers are not legitimate.

Approximately 2.5 million people died in the united States in 2019. Why don't we see 3.2 million deaths in 2020? Why is this number not given?

I'll explain, it's because they can't give this number it would be a lie.
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Vague?

In this issue of JAMA, Woolf and colleagues provide updated analyses that demonstrate that the excess mortality in the US between March 1, 2020, and January 2, 2021, has been massive, amounting to a 23% increase over prepandemic levels, representing more than 500 000 excess deaths in 2020.
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Strange you can’t source your ‘numbers’.

I look forward to your letter to the JAMA editor, correcting these calculations.

And, since you’re too lazy or more likely too incompetent to figure out where to get death stats, MMWR just published the 2020 numbers.

In 2020, approximately 3,358,814 deaths† occurred in the United States.
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www.cdc.gov

Provisional Mortality Data — United States, 2020

The age-adjusted death rate increased by 15.9% in 2020. Overall death
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Threegoofs said:
Vague?
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No hard numbers, just vague claims of increases in percentage.

The percentage they are claiming would put the number at 3.2 million dead in 2020


Strange you can’t source your ‘numbers’.
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It's the simplest math. Do you know how to divide and multiply? That's all I'm doing
 
CLAX1911 said:
No hard numbers, just vague claims of increases in percentage.

The percentage they are claiming would put the number at 3.2 million dead in 2020


It's the simplest math. Do you know how to divide and multiply? That's all I'm doing
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See above. It’s 3.35MM
 
CLAX1911 said:
Didn't see anywhere in the link where it claimed 3.2 million people died in 2020.

Why can't you show me that?
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Do you think they are all lying to you?
 
swing_voter said:
Birx said that the first 100,000 deaths in the U.S. from the virus were difficult to prevent due to the fast-moving nature of the pandemic. But she argued that had the Trump administration acted more decisively, the rest of the deaths "could have been mitigated or decreased substantially." More than 545,000 people have died from the virus in the United States.

Trump targets Fauci, Birx in lengthy diatribe | TheHill


You think trump will lose sleep over this?



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Nonsense. So when is Joe going to get the virus stamped out. He's almost had his 100 days. Didn't he claim he could do it in 100 days? When is Joe going to get the green jobs ready to replace all the fossil fuel jobs he's already killed?
 
DopeyJoeIsSenile said:
Dr Birx may be suffering from the same ailment as Dr Fauci..."meglomania". She is envious that Fauci is getting all the press since Dopey Joe took office. If any major player is to be blamed, in my opinion it should be directed at the governor of New York who let the pandemic get out of hand by forcing covid infected senior citizens back into woefully unprepared nursing homes.
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Blame Cuomo for the numbers in NY, he wrecked that state. NJ is another mess, CA, MI, all should be blamed on Governors. What's that half the cases in the nation.
 
Integrityrespec said:
Nonsense. So when is Joe going to get the virus stamped out. He's almost had his 100 days. Didn't he claim he could do it in 100 days? When is Joe going to get the green jobs ready to replace all the fossil fuel jobs he's already killed?
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He never claimed that.
Nobody has lost their jobs. That part of the pipeline was not even started yet. Read the news not the commentary.
 
craig said:
Do you think they are all lying to you?
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It seems suspicious that they refuse to give numbers. Being that they're strictly political I wouldn't put it past them to lie. Especially to cover their own ass.

The moronic incompetent leader lies all the time.
 
craig said:
We are all mixed race. Race is a social construction created to divide us.
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I agree. It seems the democrats realize that a nation divided can not stand and they are trying to destroy this nation by separating us into separate racial groups that all claim the evil white man is oppressing them while fighting all the other racial groups to get control of the top of the mountain.

A good number of democrats want to change our nation into a socialist worker’s paradise where equity not equality is the name of the game. They seriously believe they can be the only group in history that can make true socialism work. If the democrats succeed you will lucky to find toilet paper in your store a decade after the nation turns socialist.
 
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