Doomsday Scenario?

[Rexedgar]

Title refers to a continental conflagration. This is hypothetical musing, at the moment.

1) Merrick Garland indicts Donald Trump. If I understand it correctly, this means an arrest and the trial process begins, (DP lawyers please correct me if I have it wrong.)
2) I don’t think Trump pleas down.
3) First roadblock is jury selection.
4) A jury is finally seated and the trial begins, (ratings are through the roof.)
5) By the time the trial phase comes, we are probably into the 2024 campaign for the White House.
6) For the sake of the argument, let’s say that the jury finds for the prosecution.
7) The appeals process is a given in this situation, imo.
8) Where does the last appeal end up?
9) SCOTUS has been laying down a marker in the last few weeks, imo.


For those better versed in the Constitution, can a candidate run for office while in a trial, after conviction during the appeal process or while the case is before the SCOTUS?
If Trump’s lifestyle, age and diet allow him to survive all this, he will be untouchable, imo.

Chaos would ensue, imo. If we make it that far……

 

[bluesmoke]

Nothing is going to happen that Trump can't beat or get away from with no time served.

 

[Mycroft]

Nothing is going to happen that Trump can't beat or get away from with no time served.

And in the meantime, if he wants to, he'll run for President and win.

 

[Rexedgar]

And in the meantime, if he wants to, he'll run for President and win.

That’s what you thought last go round, how’d that work for you?

 

[Mycroft]

That’s what you thought last go round, how’d that work for you?

Election fraud.

That will be harder to accomplish in 2024.

But sure...the Dems and Trump haters will do whatever they can to prevent him from winning. I don't rule out assassination.

 

[Evilroddy]

Rexedgar:

Extraordinary rendition of Trump to Guantanamo Bay?

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.

 

[Evilroddy]

Rexedgar:

Regarding the final appeal to the SCOTUS, the Congress could require that the three justices appointed by former President Trump be recused from an appeal for conflict of interests. That would make the court 3-3 with respect to political alignment.

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.

 

[Rexedgar]

Rexedgar:

Regarding the final appeal to the SCOTUS, the Congress could require that the three justices appointed by former President Trump be recused from an appeal for conflict of interests. That would make the court 3-3 with respect to political alignment.

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.

“Recusal” you say?

How quaint, where is this power delegated to Congress?

 

[Old 'N Chill]

Election fraud.

That will be harder to accomplish in 2024.

But sure...the Dems and Trump haters will do whatever they can to prevent him from winning. I don't rule out assassination.

Reality check! No fraud affected the results of the 2020 election that President Biden won fair and square. You're believing a lie, like a good loyal traitor trump worshiper.

 

[Gateman_Wen]

Title refers to a continental conflagration. This is hypothetical musing, at the moment.

1) Merrick Garland indicts Donald Trump. If I understand it correctly, this means an arrest and the trial process begins, (DP lawyers please correct me if I have it wrong.)
2) I don’t think Trump pleas down.
3) First roadblock is jury selection.
4) A jury is finally seated and the trial begins, (ratings are through the roof.)
5) By the time the trial phase comes, we are probably into the 2024 campaign for the White House.
6) For the sake of the argument, let’s say that the jury finds for the prosecution.
7) The appeals process is a given in this situation, imo.
8) Where does the last appeal end up?
9) SCOTUS has been laying down a marker in the last few weeks, imo.


For those better versed in the Constitution, can a candidate run for office while in a trial, after conviction during the appeal process or while the case is before the SCOTUS?
If Trump’s lifestyle, age and diet allow him to survive all this, he will be untouchable, imo.

Chaos would ensue, imo. If we make it that far……

It wouldn't go to trial. It will be plea bargained into submission.

 

[Gateman_Wen]

Election fraud.

That will be harder to accomplish in 2024.

But sure...the Dems and Trump haters will do whatever they can to prevent him from winning. I don't rule out assassination.

What election fraud?

 

[phoenix2020]

What election fraud?

The Elites and Pukes command Mycroft’s handlers to perpetuate the Big Lie, so he keeps repeating the same baseless fiction over and over again, never with proof, continuing to believe that it will take.

 

[Evilroddy]

“Recusal” you say?

How quaint, where is this power delegated to Congress?

Rexedgar:

Use soft power to strongly "suggest" that the three justices with conflicts of interest recuse themselves. If that fails pass a law stating that no SCOTUS justice can sit on an appeal in which they have a real or apparent conflict of interest. If that fails, then temporarily reduce the SCOTUS to just one member (as required by the US constitution) and then have the Chief Justice alone decide the appeal. That done, reactivated the full court. There are many ways to skin a fat-cat.

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.

 

[Rexedgar]

Rexedgar:

Use soft power to strongly "suggest" that the three justices with conflicts of interest recuse themselves. If that fails pass a law stating that no SCOTUS justice can sit on an appeal in which they have a real or apparent conflict of interest. If that fails, then temporarily reduce the SCOTUS to just one member (as required by the US constitution) and then have the Chief Justice alone decide the appeal. That done, reactivated the full court. There are many ways to skin a fat-cat.

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.

Given your posting history, Ima gonna concede that you are probably correct. I am gonna go “lazy” on you and ask for a link or two. As to the “soft power,” Congress cannot even get folks to show up when they are subpoenaed.


Given your distaste for felines, I would think you would use another proverb…..

 

[Evilroddy]

Given your posting history, Ima gonna concede that you are probably correct. I am gonna go “lazy” on you and ask for a link or two. As to the “soft power,” Congress cannot even get folks to show up when they are subpoenaed.


Given your distaste for felines, I would think you would use another proverb…..

Rexedgar:

A first link:

https://www.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/vol02a-ch02_0.pdf

See Canon 2 and Canon 2A commentary.

See Canon 3 section C (1)

More will come later.

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.

 

[Rexedgar]

Rexedgar:

A first link:

https://www.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/vol02a-ch02_0.pdf

See Canon 2 and Canon 2A commentary.

See Canon 3 section C (1)

More will come later.

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.

Please cite the part that includes SCOTUS justices.

Code of Ethics | Fix the Court

fixthecourt.com

 

[grip]

Title refers to a continental conflagration. This is hypothetical musing, at the moment.

1) Merrick Garland indicts Donald Trump. If I understand it correctly, this means an arrest and the trial process begins, (DP lawyers please correct me if I have it wrong.)
2) I don’t think Trump pleas down.
3) First roadblock is jury selection.
4) A jury is finally seated and the trial begins, (ratings are through the roof.)
5) By the time the trial phase comes, we are probably into the 2024 campaign for the White House.
6) For the sake of the argument, let’s say that the jury finds for the prosecution.
7) The appeals process is a given in this situation, imo.
8) Where does the last appeal end up?
9) SCOTUS has been laying down a marker in the last few weeks, imo.


For those better versed in the Constitution, can a candidate run for office while in a trial, after conviction during the appeal process or while the case is before the SCOTUS?
If Trump’s lifestyle, age and diet allow him to survive all this, he will be untouchable, imo.

Chaos would ensue, imo. If we make it that far……

I don't believe Trump has that kind of support anymore, he's damaged goods. The conservative voters will be focused on someone like Ron DeSantis.

 

[Evilroddy]

Please cite the part that includes SCOTUS justices.

Code of Ethics | Fix the Court

fixthecourt.com

Rexedgar:

Oh well, back to square one. I will do the research better but also later. I'm in pain and beat right now. So I'm off to nap-time now. Sorry for wasting your time. I should have been more diligent in reading the article.

Cheers and be well.
Low-functioning Evilroddy.

 

[Rexedgar]

Rexedgar:

Oh well, back to square one. I will do the research better but also later. I'm in pain and beat right now. So I'm off to nap-time now. Sorry for wasting your time. I should have been more diligent in reading the article.

Cheers and be well.
Low-functioning Evilroddy.

Take care, ER

 

[Evilroddy]

Take care, ER

Rexedgar:

Before I go, I just found this as a side link to your last citation. So the wheels are moving - very slowly.

SCOTUS Ethics Provision Passes U.S. House | Fix the Court

fixthecourt.com

Cheers, be well and don't fall of ladders while cleaning eaves troughs.
Evilroddy the gimp.

 

[Rexedgar]

Rexedgar:

Before I go, I just found this as a side link to your last citation. So the wheels are moving - very slowly.

SCOTUS Ethics Provision Passes U.S. House | Fix the Court

fixthecourt.com

Cheers, be well and don't fall of ladders while cleaning eaves troughs.
Evilroddy the gimp.

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[Cardinal]

Title refers to a continental conflagration. This is hypothetical musing, at the moment.

1) Merrick Garland indicts Donald Trump. If I understand it correctly, this means an arrest and the trial process begins, (DP lawyers please correct me if I have it wrong.)
2) I don’t think Trump pleas down.

Definitely doesn't.

3) First roadblock is jury selection.

Well, I don't see how this is any more a roadblock than jury selection in any other trial.

4) A jury is finally seated and the trial begins, (ratings are through the roof.)

Federal trials aren't televised. And though I'd obviously watch it if it were, it's probably for the best that it isn't.

5) By the time the trial phase comes, we are probably into the 2024 campaign for the White House.

Maybe? The Federal trial process is so slow it could happen in 2026 for all we know.

6) For the sake of the argument, let’s say that the jury finds for the prosecution.

Definitely a DC venue, then.

7) The appeals process is a given in this situation, imo.
8) Where does the last appeal end up?
9) SCOTUS has been laying down a marker in the last few weeks, imo.

In my opinion, the conservative SC is more concerned with the power of the GOP overall and less with Trump in specific. So I don't think they'd rule in favor of Trump just for liberal tears (Alito and Thomas excluded, of course).

For those better versed in the Constitution, can a candidate run for office while in a trial,

Yes.

after conviction during the appeal process or while the case is before the SCOTUS?

Yes, yes and yes. Also, if he were elected, there's a 100% chance he'd be released from prison.

If Trump’s lifestyle, age and diet allow him to survive all this, he will be untouchable, imo.

Chaos would ensue, imo. If we make it that far……

At the very least, the United States would cease to be a political powerhouse internationally. Autocracies would point to America as an example of why democracy is a failed system of government. And that's saying nothing about the domestic chaos, which I couldn't even fathom.

 

[Cardinal]

Rexedgar:

Use soft power to strongly "suggest" that the three justices with conflicts of interest recuse themselves.

Let's just imagine that such a judge with a conflict of interest is, say, somebody like Thomas. Thomas, who stated that he would serve in his role to "make liberals miserable," would certainly take the position that refusing to recuse himself would fulfill that role.

If that fails pass a law stating that no SCOTUS justice can sit on an appeal in which they have a real or apparent conflict of interest.

Unfortunately, you're still left with impeachment as the mechanism of removal. This means that the law is toothless.

If that fails, then temporarily reduce the SCOTUS to just one member (as required by the US constitution) and then have the Chief Justice alone decide the appeal. That done, reactivated the full court. There are many ways to skin a fat-cat.

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.

The next President who will have the power to change the size of the court will almost certainly be a Republican (barring something very surprising happening this November), and he will probably change the court to strangle the value of the current three liberal Justices even more.

 

[Acadia]

Election fraud.

That will be harder to accomplish in 2024.

But sure...the Dems and Trump haters will do whatever they can to prevent him from winning. I don't rule out assassination.

They're trying their best to knock off a SCOTUS Justice, so why not? They're not bound by rules or you know, the Constitution.

 

[ElChupacabra]

The Elites and Pukes command Mycroft’s handlers to perpetuate the Big Lie, so he keeps repeating the same baseless fiction over and over again, never with proof, continuing to believe that it will take.

Well, it is out of the page of what the former president believes since he is an adherent of wiling one's desires into reality.