Don't Run Joe

[Logician Man]

And shave that stupid mustache.

FYI - President Biden does 'not' have a moustache.

 

[Lycanthrope]

I don't see how he'd survive that clip.

Hawley '24 - Runnin' for 'Murica!

 

[diz]

Joe Biden is a great President. He deserves a second term.

I honestly have a tough time believing this isn’t sarcasm. Surely no one is that delusional?

What do you like best about Biden? His stumbling incoherency? His relentless attempts to shift blame for every fiasco has administration has perpetrated? How attempting to take credit for things he had nothing to do with? His family’s shameless corruption? His groping and sniffing of women and little girls?

 

[Lovebug]

I think Joe should run with Fetterman. Why? Because the ticket is a No Brainer!

Someone made a funny.

 

[Michael Cole]

I honestly have a tough time believing this isn’t sarcasm. Surely no one is that delusional?

What do you like best about Biden? His stumbling incoherency? His relentless attempts to shift blame for every fiasco has administration has perpetrated? How attempting to take credit for things he had nothing to do with? His family’s shameless corruption? His groping and sniffing of women and little girls?

That's a C- on the irony scale. Maybe next time. A+ on the stupidity scale, though. Good job.

 

[Craig234]

I wonder who runs Action for A Progressive Future.... found it. Anti corp. media critic, and a Bernie delegate. The other 2 surprise ma a little

Norman Solomon is a long time anti-war and left-wing activist, has authored a dozen books focused on anti-war efforts. He founded the Institute for Public Accuracy. Solomon was a Bernie Sanders delegate to the 2016 Democratic national convention. [19]

Jeff Cohen is a writer, journalist, and media critic who founded the far-left anti-corporate media criticism group Fairness and Accuracy In Reporting (FAIR) in 1986. With Norman Solomon, he co-founded Action for a Progressive Future in 2011. [20]

Pia Gallegos is a trial lawyer with a practice focused on employment law and owns her own firm in Albuquerque, New Mexico. [21] She is the chair of Adelante Progressive Caucus of the Democratic Party of New Mexico as well as CEO of Action for a Progressive Future. [22]

Deborah Thomas has been the publisher of FAIR’s newsletter Extra! and the Grand Street Literary Journal. She has worked on left-progressive magazines such as Seven Days, Politicks & Other Human Interests, and The Nation. [23]

First of all, nice research. Second, isn't it nice to find legitimate people behind a group, instead of the right-wing groups, so that we didn't find some pro-corporate propaganda groups was who runs this? A fair question would be Bernie's position; he's said he won't run against Biden. Does he feel Biden has moved to the left enough, or that we need someone more to the left?

He probably won't say if it's the latter; there's a legitimate issue about his working relationship with him Budget Committee chair and Biden President to not go around saying Biden should be replaced. Hard to do that then meet with his 'friend' to cooperate.

But there's a harsher possibility here. Biden just launched an attack on Progressives, with his trying to change the primary process to help him and hurt Progressives; this campaign could be a Progressive counter-move against Biden, with or without Bernie's involvement - and Biden not running brings in Bernie.

My position is that Biden has mostly been a very good president. Sure, we'd be better with a Progressive, but Biden has been more than good enough to support again, and incumbency easily makes him running again fine, the problem with 'changing horses'. I haven't seen the ad yet but can see some reasons some Progressives might prefer change also. I am concerned about Biden winning, the public support, but his chances seem best.

 

[Buckeyes85]

I honestly have a tough time believing this isn’t sarcasm. Surely no one is that delusional?

What do you like best about Biden? His stumbling incoherency? His relentless attempts to shift blame for every fiasco has administration has perpetrated? How attempting to take credit for things he had nothing to do with? His family’s shameless corruption? His groping and sniffing of women and little girls?

Die hard Trumpers should really avoid claiming anyone's support for a different president is delusional. Seriously.

 

[Craig234]

Perhaps they don't want to be seen associating with California. California has an image problem.

California is the best state and leading the country. Some people - we call them Republicans - are delusional.

 

[Craig234]

He did what he promised, and more.

He did almost nothing of what he promised, which in many cases is a good thing. How are those huge tax increases on the rich he promised doing?

Did a ****ing awesome job.

Worst president in history. Your statement is like saying the Titanic was the best sailing that year.

 

[Craig234]

My guess is it's run by a dark money Pak masquerading as progressives. If you listen to all their complaints, Joe Biden has actually passed legislation dealing with most of it. The rest was blocked by conservatives using the filibuster.

Biden has had a very impressive first two years. That add shows me the desperation being felt by conservatives. They are losing the battle and damn well know it.

Any other thoughts would be welcome. The add is fake news.

I think you made a mistake on something. You read their complaints as being about Biden, but they were actually complaints to back up their statement about the need to not elect a Republican. They aren't saying Biden has the wrong positions, they're saying his running and losing can elect a Republican that has them. It doesn't look like Republicans are behind this campaign.

 

[Jacksprat]

I honestly have a tough time believing this isn’t sarcasm. Surely no one is that delusional?

What do you like best about Biden? His stumbling incoherency? His relentless attempts to shift blame for every fiasco has administration has perpetrated? How attempting to take credit for things he had nothing to do with? His family’s shameless corruption? His groping and sniffing of

Die hard Trumpers should really avoid claiming anyone's support for a different president is delusional. Seriously.

I do not even bother with Trumpers criticizing Biden.

 

[iguanaman]

The GOP has a good opportunity in '24 given how weak the Democratic field is.

Then again, the 2022 midterms should have been a bloodbath but Republicans Trumped that up.

That is why Biden is still likely the best choice. He has plenty of achievements to run on. Incumbents have a inherent advantage too. Throwing that away is risky.

 

[Michael Cole]

That is why Biden is still likely the best choice. He has plenty of achievements to run on. Incumbents have a inherent advantage too. Throwing that away is risky.

This is true, but I don't think the voters will see it that way. DeSantis (or anyone but Trump) has an edge on age, and that is what voters will focus on.

 

[iguanaman]

I honestly have a tough time believing this isn’t sarcasm. Surely no one is that delusional?

What do you like best about Biden? His stumbling incoherency? His relentless attempts to shift blame for every fiasco has administration has perpetrated? How attempting to take credit for things he had nothing to do with? His family’s shameless corruption? His groping and sniffing of women and little girls?

We like Biden's policies and that he gets things done. {Also he does not fire people on Twitter) We also think it is a joke for the right to call him corrupt while supporting the most corrupt President in history and the only one to be impeached twice.

 

[Michael Cole]

I think you made a mistake on something.

The mistake you're making is the ad is fake. Maybe somebody will tell you.

You read their complaints as being about Biden, but they were actually complaints to back up their statement about the need to not elect a Republican. They aren't saying Biden has the wrong positions, they're saying his running and losing can elect a Republican that has them. It doesn't look like Republicans are behind this campaign.

 

[iguanaman]

This is true, but I don't think the voters will see it that way. DeSantis (or anyone but Trump) has an edge on age, and that is what voters will focus on.

So all we need is a young face and we are a shoe in? That seems too simple to me. DeSantis is likely to self-destruct too. He is a loose cannon just waiting to go off.

 

[iguanaman]

I think you made a mistake on something. You read their complaints as being about Biden, but they were actually complaints to back up their statement about the need to not elect a Republican. They aren't saying Biden has the wrong positions, they're saying his running and losing can elect a Republican that has them. It doesn't look like Republicans are behind this campaign.

Just don't tell me that Biden is too old and you want Sanders instead. He is still a sure loser. I like him too but not when he loses.

 

[Michael Cole]

So all we need is a young face and we are a shoe in? That seems too simple to me. DeSantis is likely to self-destruct too. He is a loose cannon just waiting to go off.

No, I tend to agree with @Lycanthrope. Biden is the best choice, but the younger possibilities are thin. I don't necessarily agree that the GOP has the advantage, but age is going to be a factor that Biden will need to defend vigorously. Not saying he can't do it, but his age is a disadvantage.

 

[iguanaman]

He did what he promised, and more.

Did a ****ing awesome job.

Whether it's Trump or DeSantis, know this. After what the Deep State did to Trump, they fear the next R in the White House.

Why?

Because he is going to go hard to rip out the evil, roots and all.

Yes Jan. 6th was totally awesome and you want more of that I'm sure. We fear that the next election will be out last if a Republicans wins. They are the party of insurrection and can never gain power again.

 

[iguanaman]

No, I tend to agree with @Lycanthrope. Biden is the best choice, but the younger possibilities are thin. I don't necessarily agree that the GOP has the advantage, but age is going to be a factor that Biden will need to defend vigorously. Not saying he can't do it, but his age is a disadvantage.

That needs to be turned around. Knowing how to govern is the important part. 4 years of Trump taught us that. In many ways the President has been made too powerful and important. He should be a cheerleader for America not a ruler. Biden makes a decent cheerleader too.

 

[Lycanthrope]

That is why Biden is still likely the best choice. He has plenty of achievements to run on. Incumbents have a inherent advantage too. Throwing that away is risky.

If the GOP could find one candidate who appealed to independents and moderates and disavowed Trumpist nonsense they win going away.

Such a candidate would never survive the GOP primary, however - there you have to appeal to extremists.

 

[iguanaman]

If the GOP could find one candidate who appealed to independents and moderates and disavowed Trumpist nonsense they win going away.

Such a candidate would never survive the GOP primary, however - there you have to appeal to extremists.

That could be true but like you say that is not going to happen. DeSantis is a crazy as Trump and probably even more dangerous. I have watched him become absolutely powerful in Florida and like the saying goes.....

 

[Michael Cole]

That needs to be turned around. Knowing how to govern is the important part. 4 years of Trump taught us that. In many ways the President has been made too powerful and important. He should be a cheerleader for America not a ruler. Biden makes a decent cheerleader too.

No argument from me.

Two years is a long time, and unless the GOP gets its shit together (it won't), Biden could probably beat a DeSantis from his basement again.

Beating the GOP has been an exercise in bringing enough rope. I don't see that changing soon. Shame, because I would actually welcome a Larry Hogan type candidacy from the Republicans.

 

[Lycanthrope]

That could be true but like you say that is not going to happen. DeSantis is a crazy as Trump and probably even more dangerous. I have watched him become absolutely powerful in Florida and like the saying goes.....

And then of course there's Trump himself muddying the Republican cesspool. He's got a big anmouncement tomorrow! Could be something big, could be a new red hat to grift his cultists with. We'll see...

 

[iguanaman]

And then of course there's Trump himself muddying the Republican cesspool. He's got a big anmouncement tomorrow! Could be something big, could be a new red hat to grift his cultists with. We'll see...

I'm wondering whether it is known legal actions that prompted this. Trump usually draws out the suspense for far longer with these "special announcements". Could an indictment (gasp) be near? We will know tomorrow I suppose. I do not believe the DOJ will be hindered no matter what he says.