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Don't Know the Party of a Politician Caught in a Scandal? He's Probably a Democrat

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Re: Don't Know the Party of a Politician Caught in a Scandal? He's Probably a Democra

rocket88 said:
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Are you saying that partisan bias by the news media is OK? Is it wrong to let the voters know that the media is trying to trick them?
 
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Re: Don't Know the Party of a Politician Caught in a Scandal? He's Probably a Democra

That's a pretty small-sample size attempt at cherry picking.

They could have done what Fox did on more than one occasion and simply change the offending politician's affiliation from "R" to "D."

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mpg said:
Yes, I know it's a right wing source, but if it isn't true, it should be easy to debunk. Does anyone even doubt that it's true? Does anyone think that it's true but not major examples of partisan bias?

Don't Know the Party of a Politician Caught in a Scandal? He's Probably a Democrat | NewsBusters
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Jesus F Christ! Typical MRC Bull****. Who has ever kept score FOR BOTH SIDES? No, Who the **** cares?:lamo
 
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Kobie said:
That's a pretty small-sample size attempt at cherry picking.

They could have done what Fox did on more than one occasion and simply change the offending politician's affiliation from "R" to "D."

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So then bias is OK? Is this subforum a total waste of time? If so, why are you posting here?
 
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pbrauer said:
Jesus F Christ! Typical MRC Bull****. Who has ever kept score FOR BOTH SIDES? No, Who the **** cares?:lamo
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Both sides as in Democrats and Republicans? or both sides as in Fox and everyone else? If it's the former, then this is about both sides. If it's the latter, then the big three have the opposite bias that Fox has.
 
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mpg said:
So then bias is OK? Is this subforum a total waste of time? If so, why are you posting here?
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It's not necessarily "bias."
 
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Kobie said:
It's not necessarily "bias."
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Do you have examples of the big three doing the opposite of what they did in this link?
 
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mpg said:
Do you have examples of the big three doing the opposite of what they did in this link?
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Identifying Democrats as Democrats while not identifying Republicans as Republicans? Not offhand ... I wouldn't know where to even begin trying to find that. You're (or rather, NewsBusters is) dealing with an incredibly small sample size here and cherry picking three to four instances out of hundreds of times politicians are mentioned on the nightly national news in order to create some accusation of "bias."
 
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mpg said:
Are you saying that partisan bias by the news media is OK? Is it wrong to let the voters know that the media is trying to trick them?
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Yes, it's called the First Amendment they are completely within their rights to do that.

The point I'm making though is that this is the usual crying from groups like the MRC who are "sooooo persecuted." When the MRC calls someone biased, they're just the pot yelling at the kettle.
 
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mpg said:
Do you have examples of the big three doing the opposite of what they did in this link?
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The "big three." As if they matter. Fox news is just as "mainstream" as anyone.
 
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rocket88 said:
Yes, it's called the First Amendment they are completely within their rights to do that.

The point I'm making though is that this is the usual crying from groups like the MRC who are "sooooo persecuted." When the MRC calls someone biased, they're just the pot yelling at the kettle.
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You know perfectly well that this thread isn't about 1A, the MRC or Fox. You're attempting a hijack.
 
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Kobie said:
Identifying Democrats as Democrats while not identifying Republicans as Republicans? Not offhand ... I wouldn't know where to even begin trying to find that. You're (or rather, NewsBusters is) dealing with an incredibly small sample size here and cherry picking three to four instances out of hundreds of times politicians are mentioned on the nightly national news in order to create some accusation of "bias."
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Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. I have no idea which party is more prone to scandal however there is one trend that I've noticed. When a Republican gets caught snorting coke or trying to turn a public restroom into a glory hole the party generally rejects them. On the other hand when a Democrat gets caught with lots of cash in a freezer or running a gay brothel from his Washington apartment, they generally get a seat as the chair on the finance committee or some other promotion.
 
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mpg said:
You know perfectly well that this thread isn't about 1A, the MRC or Fox. You're attempting a hijack.
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Your source was the MRC, and I didn't mention Fox.
 
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sawdust said:
. When a Republican gets caught snorting coke or trying to turn a public restroom into a glory hole the party generally rejects them. .
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When are they going to get around to rejecting David Vitter?
 
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rocket88 said:
When are they going to get around to rejecting David Vitter?
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Unrepresentative sample is what that's called in logic. There are no absolutes. Prior to you mentioning him, I didn't know who he was however after a little reading, his phone number was found in a madam's phone book, which if you want to appear to be squeaky clean is probably not a good thing but certainly doesn't rise to the level of running a brothel or money laundering.
 
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sawdust said:
Unrepresentative sample is what that's called in logic. There are no absolutes. Prior to you mentioning him, I didn't know who he was however after a little reading, his phone number was found in a madam's phone book, which if you want to appear to be squeaky clean is probably not a good thing but certainly doesn't rise to the level of running a brothel or money laundering.
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So you're going to make excuses for him. That's a funny definition of the word "reject" you've got there.
 
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rocket88 said:
So you're going to make excuses for him. That's a funny definition of the word "reject" you've got there.
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Not excusing him. Actually it's not my place. If you think a hooker having is phone number is a big deal you are free to twist your panties in a knot. I hope you understood what I meant by speaking absolutes. When I said the party generally rejects them, I meant generally. I did not and would not speak in absolutes because there are always exceptions. I'm sure there are exceptions to Democrats generally accepting those whose ethics are flawed. I don't know of any off the top of my head but I'm certain they exist.
 
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sawdust said:
Unrepresentative sample is what that's called in logic. There are no absolutes. Prior to you mentioning him, I didn't know who he was however after a little reading, his phone number was found in a madam's phone book, which if you want to appear to be squeaky clean is probably not a good thing but certainly doesn't rise to the level of running a brothel or money laundering.
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Money Laundering, do you mean like Tom Delay? The Republicans sure didn't want to lose him. And David Vitter was greeted in the Senate after being in the House with a standing ovation by the Republicans.
 
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sawdust said:
Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. I have no idea which party is more prone to scandal however there is one trend that I've noticed. When a Republican gets caught snorting coke or trying to turn a public restroom into a glory hole the party generally rejects them. On the other hand when a Democrat gets caught with lots of cash in a freezer or running a gay brothel from his Washington apartment, they generally get a seat as the chair on the finance committee or some other promotion.
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The Democrat who got caught with cash in his freezer was Bill Jefferson, who was indicted in 2007 and voted out of office in 2008 after his campaign received virtually no help from the DNC. Some promotion. Barney Frank, of course, wasn't actually running anything -- someone living in an apartment he owned was doing some shady **** without Frank's knowledge.

Even if we're confining our criteria to actually illegal things -- Mike Crapo, senior GOP Senator from Idaho, got a DWI. The GOP stuck up for Duke Cunningham right up until the moment he got frog-marched into federal prison. Newt Gingrich got run out on a rail in 1997, only to get welcomed back into the fold in 2012. Mark Sanford is back in office. Let's not pretend that the GOP has any more integrity than the Democrats, please.
 
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pbrauer said:
Money Laundering, do you mean like Tom Delay? The Republicans sure didn't want to lose him. And David Vitter was greeted in the Senate after being in the House with a standing ovation by the Republicans.
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What's the hammer doing today? The question was are Democrats or Republicans more apt to be involved in scandal and my thesis was that while I didn't know which party was more corrupt, Democrats are more tolerant of ethical lapse than Republicans. That doesn't mean that Republicans are perfect, they are not.



My suggestion to you is go back up and read the thread before you start spouting things that don't fit into what we were discussing.
 
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sawdust said:
Not excusing him. Actually it's not my place. If you think a hooker having is phone number is a big deal you are free to twist your panties in a knot. I hope you understood what I meant by speaking absolutes. When I said the party generally rejects them, I meant generally. I did not and would not speak in absolutes because there are always exceptions. I'm sure there are exceptions to Democrats generally accepting those whose ethics are flawed. I don't know of any off the top of my head but I'm certain they exist.
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I seem to remember the GOP reaching for the fainting couch when Eliot Spitzer got run out of office for banging hookers. Yeah, the Democrats really went to bat for him there.

I've seen this argument made many times here -- "the Democrats are more willing to overlook misconduct than the GOP" -- and it simply doesn't hold water.
 
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