donald trump To Appear By Video As Judge Reinforces Ban On Attacking Witnesses

[Liberal7360]

The judge is having to tell trump a second time what the rules are on what he can and can't say publicly regarding the Stormy Daniels felony case.

The judge has already told him once, apparently it didn't sink in. I'm not surprised.

While his lawyers do have to show up in person, trump doesn't. He is going to do it by video.

This is just another case of him getting special treatment because he's an ex president. I don't believe he should get any special treatment. He should be treated the same as any other person who is indicted on a felony.

If he doesn't follow the rules this time he risks a contempt charge.

Trump makes video appearance in New York criminal case, trial date tentatively set for late March

Donald Trump made a video appearance in a New York courtroom on Tuesday where the judge tentatively scheduled the former president's trial for March 25, a date that would fall in the heat of the presidential primary season. Trump had pleaded not guilty last month to 34 felony counts of...

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[Slartibartfast]

This is going to end up as a contempt charge with jail time before he listens.

 

[samiam5211]

I don't have a problem with the ex-president being able to appear by video. It would be too disruptive and expensive to have him appear in person for something like this that could easily be accomplished without him there.

Ex-Presidents aren't the same as the rest of us, and that's ok.

 

[The AntiDonald]

I don't have a problem with the ex-president being able to appear by video. It would be too disruptive and expensive to have him appear in person for something like this that could easily be accomplished without him there.

Ex-Presidents aren't the same as the rest of us, and that's ok.

Why couldn't Trump be made to bear the cost of the necessary precautions? It's not like the taxpayers committed the crime. Personally, I believe he should be treated just like any other citizen. If he want's security, then he should pay for it.

 

[samiam5211]

Why couldn't Trump be made to bear the cost of the necessary precautions? It's not like the taxpayers committed the crime. Personally, I believe he should be treated just like any other citizen. If he want's security, then he should pay for it.

So you suggest that we charge him for his secret service detail?

 

[The AntiDonald]

So you suggest that we charge him for his secret service detail?

He travels the country all the time doing non court related events. If a court related event requires any extra security other than his normal SS protection, then yes, he should pay for it. It has been said that his golf excursions cost the taxpayers 5 times the salary he donated. And you're worried about a trip to Manhattan?

In my mind, Trump is a non-important person. Look at all the hype built up for his first appearance and maybe 2 dozen people showed up. This guy is nothing more than an ex-president low life criminal that needs to drag his own fat ass to court. Just like the rest of us.

 

[Slartibartfast]

I don't have a problem with the ex-president being able to appear by video. It would be too disruptive and expensive to have him appear in person for something like this that could easily be accomplished without him there.

Ex-Presidents aren't the same as the rest of us, and that's ok.

Trump no longer has an official position and should be treated exactly the same as any celebrity. That means flying to Manhattan.

 

[samiam5211]

He travels the country all the time doing non court related events. If a court related event requires any extra security other than his normal SS protection, then yes, he should pay for it. It has been said that his golf excursions cost the taxpayers 5 times the salary he donated. And you're worried about a trip to Manhattan?

In my mind, Trump is a non-important person. Look at all the hype built up for his first appearance and maybe 2 dozen people showed up. This guy is nothing more than an ex-president low life criminal that needs to drag his own fat ass to court. Just like the rest of us.

Trump is human garbage.

We shouldn't allow human garbage to change the way we treat former presidents.

 

[samiam5211]

Trump no longer has an official position and should be treated exactly the same as any celebrity. That means flying to Manhattan.

He's a former president. He's not the same as any celebrity.

he's a terrible person, and i hope he spends his last days in prison, but he's a former president, and there are some exceptions that go along with that.

 

[Slartibartfast]

He's a former president. He's not the same as any celebrity.

He is, being a former president means nothing.

he's a terrible person, and i hope he spends his last days in prison, but he's a former president, and there are some exceptions that go along with that.

I disagree. We are a country that opposes any form of nobility, even implied.

 

[samiam5211]

He is, being a former president means nothing.

I disagree. We are a country that opposes any form of nobility, even implied.

Being a former president means something.

It's not remotely like nobility, you're being dramatic because you hate Trump. I get it, i hate him too.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Being a former president means something.

It's not remotely like nobility, you're being dramatic because you hate Trump. I get it, i hate him too.

Nope, I would hold the same standard for any former president. One of the very philosophical foundations for this country is that we are all equal. This is true for everyone. The billionaire industry titan is no more or less equal to the bum in the gutter. The preacher is no more or less equal to the farmer. At least this is a national ideal that we should strive to.

There is no open administrative reason to hold any former official to any sort of different social position.

 

[samiam5211]

Nope, I would hold the same standard for any former president. One of the very philosophical foundations for this country is that we are all equal.

There is no open administrative reason to hold any former official to any sort of different social position.

He's just appearing by video. Nothing substantive is different. We did things by video for the past 3 years. It's fine.

 

[Slartibartfast]

He's just appearing by video. Nothing substantive is different. We did things by video for the past 3 years. It's fine.

He should physically be in court or every other defendant should have the video option.

If there was a medical or other restraint that alters physical capabilities, then sure.

 

[The AntiDonald]

Trump is human garbage.

We shouldn't allow human garbage to change the way we treat former presidents.

He shouldn't get any treatment over and above what any other former president gets. Shielding him from his court appearances is a gray area since it's never happened before. Let's not set a precedent that says former presidents get special treatment when they're under criminal indictment. It should be the other way around. A president is supposed to set the example.

People need to think twice when planning to break U.S. laws. Show him in cuffs. Show his mug shot publicly. Drag him through the same trial proceedings as everyone else.

 

[JRTurner]

After Covid, most courts allow for Zoom participation, based on distance alone. Trump qualifies, but I also agree he shouldn't have any extra privileges--such as breaking the law.

I don't think Trump knows how to comply with orders he disagrees with. I expect this judge will find himself needing 24 hour protection if he ever holds Trump in contempt. I'm pretty amazed and thrilled he's not using this consideration to ignore Trump's antics. Talk about courage.

 

[Mr Person]

This is going to end up as a contempt charge with jail time before he listens.

The sad fact is that the dude is simply not going to jail. They'd basically have to build him his own, along with stuff for the secret service detail he is entitled to for life. I mean..they could just throw him in gen pop, say whatever, and let the inevitable happen. But they won't.

At most he'll get cushy house arrest.

 

[Liberal7360]

This is going to end up as a contempt charge with jail time before he listens.

I think he doesn't believe the law applies to him.

It has not most of his life.

 

[Liberal7360]

I don't have a problem with the ex-president being able to appear by video. It would be too disruptive and expensive to have him appear in person for something like this that could easily be accomplished without him there.

Ex-Presidents aren't the same as the rest of us, and that's ok.

No, my problem is with him having to be told twice what the law is.

Everyone else would have only been told once. If they had violated what they were told, they wouldn't be told again, they would be found in contempt of court and probably either fined or put in jail.

 

[Liberal7360]

He's a former president. He's not the same as any celebrity.

he's a terrible person, and i hope he spends his last days in prison, but he's a former president, and there are some exceptions that go along with that.

Why are you advocating to violate the constitution?

Fourteenth Amendment​

Section 1​

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

trump is getting special treatment most people don't get.

That violates the constitution and law.

If anyone else was told the rules of the case the went out and violated those rules, that person would face either a fine or jail time for contempt of court.

trump gets to be told about the rules a second time after he was told the rules then promptly violated them.

That isn't equal protection under the law.

If the constitution was followed, trump would be facing a fine or jail time for contempt of court.

 

[Liberal7360]

He's just appearing by video. Nothing substantive is different. We did things by video for the past 3 years. It's fine.

I could care less if he did that by video. Many court issues are done by video.

I do care that he is getting special treatment in that he gets to be told the rules and laws with the case, then he gets to go out and violate those rules. Everyone else faces fines or jail because of the contempt charge.

Instead, trump gets special treatment to be told the rules and laws a second time and doesn't face the same consequences everyone else faces when they violate the rules and laws after being old the first time.

That is the point. Not that he is doing it by video.

 

[Liberal7360]

The sad fact is that the dude is simply not going to jail. They'd basically have to build him his own, along with stuff for the secret service detail he is entitled to for life. I mean..they could just throw him in gen pop, say whatever, and let the inevitable happen. But they won't.

At most he'll get cushy house arrest.

Put him out on Alcatraz.

No one else is there so he and his SS detail are safe from other inmates.

He can have the whole prison to himself.

 

[samiam5211]

I could care less if he did that by video. Many court issues are done by video.

I do care that he is getting special treatment in that he gets to be told the rules and laws with the case, then he gets to go out and violate those rules. Everyone else faces fines or jail because of the contempt charge.

Instead, trump gets special treatment to be told the rules and laws a second time and doesn't face the same consequences everyone else faces when they violate the rules and laws after being old the first time.

That is the point. Not that he is doing it by video.

Oh i totally agree with that. He should have just been charged with contempt instead of getting a mulligan from the court.

 

[Gateman_Wen]

The judge is having to tell trump a second time what the rules are on what he can and can't say publicly regarding the Stormy Daniels felony case.

The judge has already told him once, apparently it didn't sink in. I'm not surprised.

While his lawyers do have to show up in person, trump doesn't. He is going to do it by video.

This is just another case of him getting special treatment because he's an ex president. I don't believe he should get any special treatment. He should be treated the same as any other person who is indicted on a felony.

If he doesn't follow the rules this time he risks a contempt charge.

Trump makes video appearance in New York criminal case, trial date tentatively set for late March

Donald Trump made a video appearance in a New York courtroom on Tuesday where the judge tentatively scheduled the former president's trial for March 25, a date that would fall in the heat of the presidential primary season. Trump had pleaded not guilty last month to 34 felony counts of...

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He's afraid he will be taken into custody if he shows up to run his mouth in person?

 

[Gateman_Wen]

Put him out on Alcatraz.

No one else is there so he and his SS detail are safe from other inmates.

He can have the whole prison to himself.

That's a GREAT idea!!