DOJ should investigate Trump for possible crimes in election plot, Rep. Schiff says

[ClaraD]

We should care what the lair Schiff says why exactly?

what is a lair?

 

[ElChupacabra]

Couldn't agree more, if you cannot show up at the voting booth for early voting, election day or qualify for an official absentee ballot then your vote shouldn't count.

Thanks for your opinion, but it means bugger all since there is no intrinsic value in the method by which a person votes. If the concern is security, then that can be addressed, but the idea because a mails in their ballot somehow means their vote shouldn't count is based on an arbitrary criterion that means nothing.

Interesting how the five or 6 states that gave Biden the electoral votes show exactly what I have been saying in person voting passion was for Trump, Biden voters are typical liberals, staying home with that entitlement mentality

Strange then that in your state Trump won in the mail in ballot category as well; should those votes not be counted because they're obviously fraudulent and cast by typical lazy conservatives who stayed home with that entitlement menality?

 

[ElChupacabra]

what is a lair?

he was probably referring to Schiff's Lair which resides rent free in the minds of some.

 

[RedFishBlueFish]

No, I won't be joining the 20 million morons who lap up everything the big liar Schiffhead has to say.

Guess you are in the 40 million morons who believe the 30,000 lies Trump told.

 

[ElChupacabra]

What poll numbers are you talking about? You mean the tv ratings? It is a absurd idea to judge the value of the committee by the tv ratings. The importance of the work of the committee is to reveal the plans and preparation that trump and the white house made in order to reverse the will of the people.



Now you're really a scraping bottom.
That's a comment that's simply out of bounds.

Yep, but considering that poster paints in broad brushes, it isn't a surprise. Those hours would also include retirees who also are likely not at work, but you know, it's only "welfare whores" who are at home.

 

[Paradoxical]

what is a lair?

I ran a thread on it. Liberals don't know.

 

[Conservative]

Some key questions to help quantify this:

1. How are you measuring that increased likelihood? This question requires an answer containing actual data and not nebulous answers like "logic and common sense" which mean nothing.
2. How many cases of fraud have been found by the mail in ballot method that present a threat to national results?
3. Should the mail in ballots for Trump be thrown out and not counted in his tally because they are likely fraudulent?
4. Should the same be done for all GOP candidates who won and had ballots cast that way?

If all you've got is suppositions and silly comments like "but obviously it's higher because I believe it is!!" then those goes in the bin since they're not serious responses.

Pretty simple, how many people actually handle a mail in ballot? The more ballots the more people that have to review and check them. How do you know there was a signature match on those ballots as each mail in ballot and there over 60 million of them had to have a signature match, that isn't going to happen and the reality is TX is the only one that handled those ballots properly assuring that the number of people handling them was minimal.

There is no way of knowing how many mail in ballots were fraud if the signatures weren't matched and checked against the voter rolls. you live in a liberal fantasy world where you trust your party to do what is right, your party is a fraud and with all the money and power certainly was capable of manipulating enough ballots to turn the election for Biden, Sad but true that there were still millions of people that did vote for Biden, and as reported 20% now have buyers' remorse and that would be over 16 million votes.

As stated and apparently going right over your head, ALL VOTES SHOULD BE IN PERSON REGARDLESS OF THE PARTY, the only exception being official absentee ballots. Throw them all out and Trump wins as he has the most in person voting.

 

[Conservative]

Yep, but considering that poster paints in broad brushes, it isn't a surprise. Those hours would also include retirees who also are likely not at work, but you know, it's only "welfare whores" who are at home.

Retirees aren't Biden supporters especially with over 8% inflation. You are the one speculating that they are retirees for Biden. Why would anyone watch this witch hunt and why would anyone continue to support Biden?

 

[ElChupacabra]

Pretty simple, how many people actually handle a mail in ballot? The more ballots the more people that have to review and check them. How do you know there was a signature match on those ballots as each mail in ballot and there over 60 million of them had to have a signature match, that isn't going to happen and the reality is TX is the only one that handled those ballots properly assuring that the number of people handling them was minimal.

Again, you keep raising all of these questions and have nothing to back up your suspicions. So your assertion is that because there were mail in ballots it must mean that there was malfeasance. That's not the way anything works except in the realm of conspiracy theory where no real evidence is required.

There is no way of knowing how many mail in ballots were fraud if the signatures weren't matched and checked against the voter rolls. you live in a liberal fantasy world where you trust your party to do what is right, your party is a fraud and with all the money and power certainly was capable of manipulating enough ballots to turn the election for Biden, Sad but true that there were still millions of people that did vote for Biden, and as reported 20% now have buyers' remorse and that would be over 16 million votes.

So that means you think it makes sense to flail around and make accusations without being able to prove it, and I'm the one living in a fantasy world?

As stated and apparently going right over your head, ALL VOTES SHOULD BE IN PERSON REGARDLESS OF THE PARTY, the only exception being official absentee ballots. Throw them all out and Trump wins as he has the most in person voting.

It didn't go over my head, it's just a load of bunk considering other states have moved away from that sole method of voting; some of those are GOP led states as well. Then you top it off with the silly "subtract [insert group here] and TRUMP WINS!"

 

[Davin]

Retirees aren't Biden supporters especially with over 8% inflation. You are the one speculating that they are retirees for Biden. Why would anyone watch this witch hunt and why would anyone continue to support Biden?

Because Biden isn’t an insurrection supporter like traitorous Trump and his supporters are.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Retirees aren't Biden supporters especially with over 8% inflation. You are the one speculating that they are retirees for Biden. Why would anyone watch this witch hunt and why would anyone continue to support Biden?

They're not? Data please, or is this just another "I know they're not because I said so" moments. Based on 2020 exit polling, there were certainly a fair percentage of them:


Source

Now what this looks like in 2024 will be interesting, as well as the 2022 elections.

 

[Conservative]

Again, you keep raising all of these questions and have nothing to back up your suspicions. So your assertion is that because there were mail in ballots it must mean that there was malfeasance. That's not the way anything works except in the realm of conspiracy theory where no real evidence is required.

Wow, do you actually work in the eeal world, so naive, gullible. Think for a change and take your blinders. How many people handlep mail in ballots and what are the checks for legality

So that means you think it makes sense to flail around and make accusations without being able to prove it, and I'm the one living in a fantasy world?

With all the money and power in politics you are very naive and want to believe there is no manipulation. Not sure what you do but rather scary how trustworthy you are of politicians especially liberal politicians

It didn't go over my head, it's just a load of bunk considering other states have moved away from that sole method of voting; some of those are GOP led states as well. Then you top it off with the silly "subtract [insert group here] and TRUMP WINS!"

I stand by my post and with my age along with experience gives me credibility that you will never understand nor will other cult followers

 

[ElChupacabra]

Wow, do you actually work in the eeal world, so naive, gullible. Think for a change and take your blinders. How many people handlep mail in ballots and what are the checks for legality

Yes, in a real world where I expect evidence to support accusations of malfeasance rather than just accepting the possibility of them happening. The latter is what's naïve and gullible. I have repeatedly asked you for evidence of that happening and all you come back with are these questions that tap dance around the answer.

"I know the Loch Ness monster exists. I have no proof, but clearly because people have seen something and it's possible, you must believe it's true."

With all the money and power in politics you are very naive and want to believe there is no manipulation. Not sure what you do but rather scary how trustworthy you are of politicians especially liberal politicians

I don't need to believe anything. If someone claims there is manipulation, then the next step is for them to provide evidence of this happening; belief isn't required. It's comical you question my trust when you accept claims with no evidence, just supposition. "IT MUST BE TRUE!!"

I stand by my post and with my age along with experience gives me credibility that you will never understand nor will other cult followers

We all have experience, so that means bugger all and what gives you credibility is the quality of your statement. You just presented a pretty weak appeal to authority fallacy. Cult followers tend to be people who accept the statements of charismatic leaders and do so purely on faith with no evidence required. I'm asking you for evidence of your claims and you're asking I just take your word for it because "reasons". You may want to reassess who is in the cult follower mode.

 

[Conservative]

Because Biden isn’t an insurrection supporter like traitorous Trump and his supporters are.

Biden is a fraud and a disaster being a puppet. No smoking gun for Trump and liberal TDS

 

[Conservative]

Yes, in a real world where I expect evidence to support accusations of malfeasance rather than just accepting the possibility of them happening. The latter is what's naïve and gullible. I have repeatedly asked you for evidence of that happening and all you come back with are these questions that tap dance around the answer.

"I know the Loch Ness monster exists. I have no proof, but clearly because people have seen something and it's possible, you must believe it's true."



I don't need to believe anything. If someone claims there is manipulation, then the next step is for them to provide evidence of this happening; belief isn't required. It's comical you question my trust when you accept claims with no evidence, just supposition. "IT MUST BE TRUE!!"



We all have experience, so that means bugger all and what gives you credibility is the quality of your statement. You just presented a pretty weak appeal to authority fallacy. Cult followers tend to be people who accept the statements of charismatic leaders and do so purely on faith with no evidence required. I'm asking you for evidence of your claims and you're asking I just take your word for it because "reasons". You may want to reassess who is in the cult follower mode.

So trusting and so naive.

 

[ElChupacabra]

So trusting and so naive.

That you don't see the tragic irony of this is absolutely hysterical. You say I'm trusting and naïve yet expect me to accept your premise with no evidence at all.

 

[Conservative]

That you don't see the tragic irony of this is absolutely hysterical. You say I'm trusting and naïve yet expect me to accept your premise with no evidence at all.

That you won't answer how many people handle a mail in ballot and how legality is determined is quite telling showing a very naive, gullible trusting cultist

 

[Davin]

Biden is a fraud and a disaster being a puppet. No smoking gun for Trump and liberal TDS

Your BDS is on display insurrection supporter. You love corruption and fraud as Trump's big lie is the biggest fraud this country has seen and it's all a lie like Trump and his supporters.

 

[Conservative]

Your BDS is on display insurrection supporter. You love corruption and fraud as Trump's big lie is the biggest fraud this country has seen and it's all a lie like Trump and his supporters.

You have proven nothing. Growing up a Democrat and seeing what happened to that party makes me sick. Tell me why you are so loyal. Haven't seen any data supporting the fraud claim just liberal BS. You vote on personality and I vote on policies

 

[Davin]

You have proven nothing. Growing up a Democrat and seeing what happened to that party makes me sick. Tell me why you are so loyal. Haven't seen any data supporting the fraud claim just liberal BS. You vote on personality and I vote on policies

Insurrection supporters like yourself make me sick. Your support of Trump proves you are anti-American. Get out of this country and go with your friend Putin or the North Korean Leader. Both are more American than you.

 

[Conservative]

Insurrection supporters like yourself make me sick. Your support of Trump proves you are anti-American. Get out of this country and go with your friend Putin or the North Korean Leader. Both are more American than you.

I have no use for your personal attacks and total ignorance of policies and results. Stop diverting from your own failures by focusing on hatred of someone you don't know and someone who did nothing to hurt you, a total figment of you imagination and liberal indoctrination promoting lies that you want to believe

 

[Davin]

I have no use for your personal attacks and total ignorance of policies and results. Stop diverting from your own failures by focusing on hatred of someone you don't know and someone who did nothing to hurt you, a total figment of you imagination and liberal indoctrination promoting lies that you want to believe

I'm not the one whining and crying about Biden, you are so take your own advice and stop diverting from YOUR failures. I live my life just fine REGARDLESS who is president and unlike you, I don't whine about it. You know nothing about and support an insurrection supporter like Trump. Anti-Americans like you are beyond saving. Trump showed everyone his true colors and whined like a ***** when he lost, just like his supporters do now.

 

[Conservative]

I'm not the one whining and crying about Biden, you are so take your own advice and stop diverting from YOUR failures. I live my life just fine REGARDLESS who is president and unlike you, I don't whine about it. You know nothing about and support an insurrection supporter like Trump. Anti-Americans like you are beyond saving. Trump showed everyone his true colors and whined like a ***** when he lost, just like his supporters do now.

It is about results as results matter. Trump had positive results. Bidens are typical liberal failures. Don't understand people like you that ignore what our Founders created. History, civics and actual results. Liberal rhetoric never generates promised results but the rhetoric makes you feel good and feelings are all that matter. Biden has a 34% approval rating on the economy and 39% over all, why?

 

[ElChupacabra]

That you won't answer how many people handle a mail in ballot and how legality is determined is quite telling showing a very naive, gullible trusting cultist

You're the one making this an issue, so why don't you present that information and demonstrate the problem. You keep repeating that I'm the naïve and gullible one when I'm the one asking for evidence and you're the one not providing any to support your claim. What I'm doing is the opposite of being naïve and gullible; I would be if I said: "Oh yes! There must be fraud because who knows how many people touched the ballots and did things with them!". Sorry not sorry that I don't blindly accept absurd requests to believe a claim without evidence from internet randos.

Thus far we've had secretaries of state, the former AG, and other government officials state there were no issues with the 2020 election, but apparently they should just know there were problems without being able to show what they were. If you presented your claims to a judge you'd get laughed out of court, and is why many of the lawsuits collapsed like a house of cards.

 

[Conservative]

You're the one making this an issue, so why don't you present that information and demonstrate the problem. You keep repeating that I'm the naïve and gullible one when I'm the one asking for evidence and you're the one not providing any to support your claim. What I'm doing is the opposite of being naïve and gullible; I would be if I said: "Oh yes! There must be fraud because who knows how many people touched the ballots and did things with them!". Sorry not sorry that I don't blindly accept absurd requests to believe a claim without evidence from internet randos.

Thus far we've had secretaries of state, the former AG, and other government officials state there were no issues with the 2020 election, but apparently they should just know there were problems without being able to show what they were. If you presented your claims to a judge you'd get laughed out of court, and is why many of the lawsuits collapsed like a house of cards.

175000 votes gave Biden the victory all in Democrat precincts and from mail-in ballots. Coincidence?