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DOJ says names of two associates Epstein wired $100k and $250k to should stay SECRET

Why did the Dems not take advantage of the opportunity to destroy GOP politicians with Epstein info? Because they themselves would be implicated. Same situation we have now.
No, as I have said on many occasions, there is a long held practice at the DOJ, and in the law in general , that the names of people involved in criminal investigations, but not charged with a crime, are not released publicly. Not only is no public interest served , only salacious curiosity, but irreparable harm could be done to people where either no evidence, or not enough evidence, existed to bring charges. To release them could be illegal but certainly unethical

I think that is why neither Barr nor Garland, both competent AG's, released the files with names and why Bondi didn't in the end. Trouble with Bondi was she already had ran her big mouth in an attempt to throw red meat at the base. Hence my comment....."Or maybe there is no cover up at all just a badly botched publicity stunt by an amateur hour DOJ"
 
More bullshit.

You can't even answer whether you'd want to know whether a leader raped children are not.

You literally can't bring yourself to say, "Yes, that would concern me" much less anything stronger.

This says volumes, absolute volumes about MAGAs. It also speaks volumes about how the years of Sound of Freedom sobbing for the poor sex-trafficked children was literal bullshit. They never cared about kids getting raped. Never. It was literally a political vehicle, and nothing more.

Well, you might just be in a minority; I'm not sure, but I hope so. Because millions upon millions of us DO care. And the ghost of Epstein is not going away.

 
Name everyone, no exceptions.
Hopefully.

Have to get around a judge that is protecting the person who appointed them.
 
Why not answer the question?

Do you want to know whether someone you support and who runs the entire nation raped children, or not?

It's a simple question.
We know Clinton is on the list, and his pet judge is trying desperately to hide that fact.

Most people are too young to have voted in any election for Clinton, but anyone who did support him is probably feeling pretty bad, and knows they made poor choices when not voting for someone, anyone, else.
 
We know Clinton is on the list, and his pet judge is trying desperately to hide that fact.

Whatever about a "pet judge," but some of us want ***anyone*** involved to be outed.

Most people are too young to have voted in any election for Clinton, but anyone who did support him is probably feeling pretty bad, and knows they made poor choices when not voting for someone, anyone, else.

Maybe they are. And?

I voted for Clinton the first time around. I don't give a shit who knows it. I didn't know he might have been raping children at the time. I know now. I want him outed if he molested kids. Straight up. I want him to spend what is little of the rest of his life in prison if he harmed any child. And that is that. Throw away the damned key.

Why do MAGAs (even secret ones, wink wink) think "But Clinton!" Will make non-MAGAs back off? Unlike MAGAs, we are not required to remain loyal to *anyone* right down to wanting to hide ALL child rapists in a scandal in order to protect *one* man.

Out them. All of them. Some of these people *raped children,* I mean you get that, right?
 
Whatever about a "pet judge," but some of us want ***anyone*** involved to be outed.
We do.

But a judge has blocked the release of files. And this case is in front of him again..

And we know why - to protect the person that appointed them.

Out grandparents messed up when they elected this monster 35 years ago. We are still dealing with the issues he created, in more ways than one.
 

That's good to hear.

But a judge has blocked the release of files. And this case is in front of him again..

Judges ruling horribly seems to be a 2025 theme. I keep saying it: once a precedent is set, people you don't like might get special treatment as well. MAGAs don't listen, thinking they're "in power" and that will never change...somehow. But nah. If you don't like this, just wait for 2026.

There's zero decorum anymore in any of the Branches and all but no accountability for following actual rules and it, well...(ooooh! pardon this pun, you'll see why in a moment) trickles down.

And we know why - to protect the person that appointed them.

Probably. I would guess so.

What's Taco's excuse, then? Same?

Out grandparents messed up when they elected this monster 35 years ago.

Yeah, that's it. It is literally all Clinton's fault, LOL. Is this why the Clinton obsession? Because you just can't get past the fact that you didn't get your way 35 years ago? No fair, and all that?

BTW, Taco does great on his own ****ing things up and being a literal monster. The good lord definitely broke the monster mold with him.

We are still dealing with the issues he created, in more ways than one.

We're still dealing with the issues Reagan created as well, what's your point? We're still dealing with Dubya's "Patriot" Act (LOLZ) precedent-setting. Now, we're dealing with the issues Taco is creating. Again...the point? Besides you obviously still being very sore over Clinton having been elected decades ago.
 
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That's good to hear.

Judges ruling horribly seems to be a 2025 theme. I keep saying it: once a precedent is set, people you don't like might get special treatment as well.

It wasn’t even the judge’s ruling or the judge’s idea to simply hide the names. The poster is just making things up.

It was part of Epstein’s plea deal, the plea deal that was set up with the prosecutor.

From the op:
As part of the plea agreement, Epstein secured a statement from federal prosecutors in Florida that the two individuals would not be prosecuted.

Now NBC filed to have the names released, but it’s the DOJ who is opposed to having the names released and is asking the court to keep it sealed.

From the op:
DOJ says names of two associates Epstein wired $100K and $250K should stay secret

The Justice Department request came after NBC News asked a federal judge to unseal the names of two people Epstein paid and helped protect from prosecution.



Probably. I would guess so.

What's Taco's excuse, then?



Yeah, that's it. It is literally all Clinton's fault, LOL. Is this why the Clinton obsession?

BTW, Taco does great on his own ****ing things up and being a literal monster. The good lord definitely broke the monster mold with him.



We're still dealing with the issues Reagan created as well, what's your point? Now, we're dealing with the issues Taco is creating. Again...the point? Besides you obviously still being very sore over Clinton having been elected decades ago.
 
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That's good to hear.



Judges ruling horribly seems to be a 2025 theme. I keep saying it: once a precedent is set, people you don't like might get special treatment as well. MAGAs don't listen, thinking they're "in power" and that will never change...somehow. But nah. If you don't like this, just wait for 2026.
We've been waiting since our grandparents elected people who installed these judges in the 1900s.

We will continue to wait. It won't be long now and younger people will take over. Must scare the people who voted for these assholes.
What's Taco's excuse, then? Same?
I don't think Trump appointed this judge.

Maybe the judge should step down and see if someone new would be appointed.
Yeah, that's it. It is literally all Clinton's fault, LOL. Is this why the Clinton obsession? Because you just can't get past the fact that you didn't get your way 35 years ago? No fair, and all that?
Few of us were even alive 35 years ago, and even fewer of us could vote.

Trump is the last white male born in the 1940s who will ever be elected president. Progress is slow, but it's inevitable. People like Clinton, and his voters, are losing power and they are desperate to maintain it. Sucks to be them; Progress is happening even against their will.
 
We've been waiting since our grandparents elected people who installed these judges in the 1900s.

Waiting for what? That doesn't make sense in light of my comment that you quoted.

Are you saying you're waiting for a big Dem win in 2026? That surprises me, but if that's how you feel, that's cool. I definitely don't mind.

We will continue to wait. It won't be long now and younger people will take over. Must scare the people who voted for these assholes.

I hope so. MAGAs just voted in the oldest fart ever to hold office. It is DEFINITELY time for a change.

I don't think Trump appointed this judge.

When did that ever get in the way of Taco finding a loophole to do what he wants to do? He actively blocked even the mention of the files, or tried to. He came right out and insulted the very people who voted him in, in his panic to shame people into just shutting up about the files.

So, what's his excuse for having blocked the release of these files, well before this particular judgment? He's hiding something, according to your logic. That isn't a surprise, but it's worth pointing out.

Maybe the judge should step down and see if someone new would be appointed.

What for?

Few of us were even alive 35 years ago, and even fewer of us could vote.

That's why it is so weird that you are still so rabidly angry at Bill. 😆 I mean what's the problem? Did he beat you up and take your lunch money or something?

Trump is the last white male born in the 1940s who will ever be elected president.

And?

He's also the oldest person ever elected president, period.

Why do you not like older white males?

Progress is slow, but it's inevitable.

Yes, thank God!

Conservatives can't stop the march of progress.

People like Clinton, and his voters, are losing powe and they are desperate to maintain it.

No Republicans are losing power and desperate to maintain it, though....

Like Taco, for instance. Who clawed his way back into the White House spitting and screaming (and slurring...LOL) lies at every single opportunity in order to "tell a lie long enough (so) it becomes the truth."

Also, can you please explain how hiding illicit activity would help "Clinton voters" (whom you admit are mostly dying off anyway) keep power? Is Clinton running for office or something? I didn't hear about this.

Sucks to be them;

Sure does! Imagine being Taco, bleeding support his fragile ego so desperately needs, looking in terror toward 2026, and knowing that either way, he's a sick, frail old dude whose future is extremely short. That would definitely suck. It's kind of sad.

Progress is happening even against their will.

I agree with you and I'm optimistic too. Progress is happening despite the MAGA "Make America Medieval Again" Project 2025 moves.

Nothing can stop progress.
 
It wasn’t even the judge’s ruling or the judge’s idea to simply hide the names.
It was his idea. Records were petitioned to be released and the judge blocked them.

It was part of Epstein’s plea deal, the plea deal that was set up with the prosecutor.
The deal that was squashed when he arrested? That deal, that protected no one else? No one is saying they should be prosecuted; just release their names.
 
Waiting for what? That doesn't make sense in light of my comment that you quoted.
For the people voted in in the 1900s, and those appointed by them, to leave office.

It's happening soon. :) No white male born in the 1940s will ever be elected president again, and they will never appoint any more people to power. It's awesome.

Are you saying you're waiting for a big Dem win in 2026? That surprises me, but if that's how you feel, that's cool. I definitely don't mind.
Democrats appointed the judge that is blocking the release of the files. They were in power for 4 years after Epstein and Maxwell were arrested and released nothing. So we know how they feel.

Clearly that wouldn't help. Which sucks, but we know that soon enough those people will no longer hold office and progress will be made.

When did that ever get in the way of Taco finding a loophole to do what he wants to do? He actively blocked even the mention of the files, or tried to. He came right out and insulted the very people who voted him in, in his panic to shame people into just shutting up about the files.

So, what's his excuse for having blocked the release of these files, well before this particular judgment?
Surely you remember the 33,000 pages already released, the thousands of addional pages released recently, the flight logs and the petition to release more documents that has been repeatly blocked by this judge...

Progress is slow, but it's happening.:) we will get these documents.


That's why it is so weird that you are still so rabidly angry at Bill. 😆 I mean what's the problem? Did he beat you up and take your lunch money or something?
No. He raped children and abused young women... obviously.

Doesn't that upset you? Did it bother you that he did that when you voted for him?
 
For the people voted in in the 1900s, and those appointed by them, to leave office.

Oh. Okay. 🤷‍♀️

It's happening soon. :) No white male born in the 1940s will ever be elected president again, and they will never appoint any more people to power. It's awesome.

Okay...I'm not sure I'm seeing why. Because that group is old? Because they're white? Or what? I'm curious what you mean.

Democrats appointed the judge that is blocking the release of the files.

So? Republicans have a long history of buying...sorry, hiring judges that will allowe their leaders to get away with all but murder. And heck, probably even that.

They were in power for 4 years after Epstein and Maxwell were arrested and released nothing. So we know how they feel.

Right. That's correct.

Clearly that wouldn't help. Which sucks,

Do you mean Democrats taking the Houses wouldn't help with the release of the Epstein files? I'm not so sure. :) But we'll get the chance to see.

but we know that soon enough those people will no longer hold office and progress will be made.

Wait, nobody in Congress now who is a Dem will ever hold office again?

Why?

Surely you remember the 33,000 pages already released, the thousands of addional pages released recently, the flight logs and the petition to release more documents that has been repeatly blocked by this judge...

Yup.

Progress is slow, but it's happening.:) we will get these documents.

Yup!

No. He raped children and abused young women... obviously.

So:

1. Without proof, you accept that Bill raped children and abused young women, but WITH proof of abusing young women you don't believe Taco did?

Doesn't that upset you?

YES.

Did it bother you that he did that when you voted for him?

How would I have known that he abussed young women? I had no idea. And there was never even a hint of him raping children at the time, so...

I didn't vote for him the second time, though. By then I thought he was a piece of shit. I voted for Perot. We all thought we were starting some kind of movement breaking up the two-party system. Nope.
 
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Oh. Okay. 🤷‍♀️



Okay...I'm not sure I'm seeing why. Because that group is old? Because they're white? Or what? I'm curious what you mean.
Because their views are unpopular.

Don't make this a race thing; white men born in the 1940s have been elected multiple times in the past 50 years; clealry they were not discriminated against.

But they have fallen out of favor, and Trump will be the last one, thankfully.
So we want to know the names of people who abused children, and a judge, appointed by.... (a Democrat) is blocking this.

Repeatedly.
Right. That's correct.
Democrats and their judges blocking the release of the Epstein files, while popular with their voters, will not end well for them historically or electorally speaking.

So:

1. Without proof, you accept that Bill raped children and abused young women, but WITH proof of abusing young women you don't believe Taco did?
What? Who said that?

I said with proof and claims from victims I accept that Bill raped children and abused young women.

Don't defend him, or deflect to others, just because you voted for him.
 
Because their views are unpopular.

So it's a popularity contest. Got it.

Don't make this a race thing; white men born in the 1940s have been elected multiple times in the past 50 years; clealry they were not discriminated against.

You are the one who said "white," and more than once. I asked you about it.

Why did you make it a race thing?

But they have fallen out of favor, and Trump will be the last one, thankfully.

Old white politicians have fallen out of favor?

How do you figure?

So we want to know the names of people who abused children, and a judge, appointed by.... (a Democrat) is blocking this.

Yes, we want to know the names of anyone who raped children on that island.

Or I do. I can't speak for the next person.

Repeatedly.

Like Taco and Mouthpiece Barbie repeatedly demanded that people just stop talking about if?

Sure, I suppose.

Again. What is Taco hiding?

Democrats and their judges blocking the release of the Epstein files, while popular with their voters,

It's "their voters" who want to see the files.

will not end well for them historically or electorally speaking.

You mean in tis fan fix version you've created? 😂 I suppose it wouldn't. And?

What? Who said that?

I said with proof and claims from victims I accept that Bill raped children and abused young women.

No, you did not. I quoted what you said.

Don't defend him, or deflect to others, just because you voted for him.

When did I defend him? Let's have a look at that. Please be specific. Quotes will probably do fine. 🙂
 
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