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Does Trump believe in free speech?

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Trump is a man who made a career of sneering at intellectuals, decrying facts as "fake," and slandering the press as "enemies of the people" presumed to lecture the academy on the sanctity of free speech. With all the subtlety of a wrecking ball in a library, his administration launched a campaign not to defend expression, but to conscript it--to police the discourse of universities and force it into the uniform of right-wing orthodoxy.

Under the false banner of "protecting free inquiry," Trump issued an executive order threatening to strip funding from universities that failed to accommodate the grievances of the aggrieved conservative ego. This was not liberty--it was blackmail. Institutions were told: suppress student dissent against our favored speakers or risk your research grants. It was free speech on condition it served the state’s ideological appetites. A kind of Orwellian absurdity in which coerced compliance was paraded as academic freedom.

And what did this "freedom" consist of? Not the defense of pluralism, but the elevation of grievance. Not an even-handed commitment to open dialogue, but a shrill fixation on the imagined oppression of right-wing pundits who mistake heckling for persecution and cannot distinguish between protest and censorship.

Worse still, Trump and his proxies sought to rewrite curricula, denouncing entire disciplines as treasonous and ordering the creation of a jingoistic “1776 Commission” to cleanse the historical record of inconvenient truths. It was not enough to shout down dissent; they aimed to expunge it.

So this is a grotesque attempt to leash the liberty of the mind to the whims of political power--and to call that tyranny "freedom" is an insult to the word and all who have fought to preserve it.

1. Executive Order Threatening Funding Based on Speech Codes (March 2019)

Trump signed an executive order directing federal agencies to withhold research funds from universities that failed to "promote free inquiry."
  • Problem: The order did not define “free inquiry” in concrete or neutral terms, opening the door to partisan interpretation.
  • Threat: It effectively politicized academic funding, implying that schools could be punished for speech deemed hostile to conservative ideas—even if those ideas are challenged by students or faculty using their own free speech rights.
  • Result: This incentivized universities to suppress student protests or dissent against conservative speakers, chilling left-leaning speech to protect federal funding.

2. Selective Defense of Conservative Speech Only

Trump and his allies routinely framed the issue of campus free speech as a one-sided culture war in which only conservatives were being silenced.
  • At CPAC and rallies, Trump referenced isolated incidents--e.g., a conservative student being punched or a speaker being heckled--as proof of widespread suppression.
  • Yet there was no similar concern when leftist speakers, faculty, or protesters were harassed, disinvited, or censored (e.g., Palestinians, Black Lives Matter activists, or critics of Israel).
  • The First Amendment protects all speech, not just ideological allies. By weaponizing "free speech" as a partisan cudgel, Trump reduced it to a slogan, not a principle.

3. DOJ and DOE Investigations into "Bias"

Trump’s Departments of Justice and Education launched investigations into universities for alleged anti-conservative bias or supposed violations of free speech.
  • These were often politically motivated and lacked clear legal grounding.
  • In some cases, universities were pressured to alter disciplinary policies to avoid federal scrutiny—again, chilling academic autonomy and student activism.
  • Meanwhile, the administration showed no interest in investigating censorship of leftist voices on campus.

4. Attacks on Academic Freedom

Trump repeatedly demonized entire fields of study as politically suspect:
  • He called critical race theory "toxic propaganda."
  • He vowed to cut funding to schools teaching ideas he labeled "un-American."
  • He ordered the creation of a "1776 Commission" as a nationalist counter to historical curricula that addressed slavery or systemic racism.
This isn't free speech--it's state-imposed narrative control, cloaked in patriotic language.

The Ironic Twist: Demanding "Free Speech" While Encouraging Retaliation

Trump created a chilling environment by encouraging:
  • Doxxing of professors
  • Student surveillance (e.g., Campus Reform and Turning Point USA’s "Professor Watchlist")
  • Threats of legislative punishment for speech he disagreed with

It's called authoritarianism.
 
Trump is correct on all of that.
 
the guy who wants the gov to violate the 2nd amendment

the guy who called for the termination of the Constitution

is the guy you think is right
There is a porn star named Simone W. Moon.

That isn't you by any chance is it?
 
Correct in what? Suppressing anything he doesn't like?

Yes, because that's the idea America was founded on, right? 🤭 (y)
He represents those of us that voted for him.

It isn't he that wants to suppress liberals it's over half the voters that do.

That's how much the nation hates you and your ilk and what you've done to our country.
 
He represents those of us that voted for him.

It isn't he that wants to suppress liberals it's over half the voters that do.

That's how much the nation hates you and your ilk and what you've done to our country.
Ah, so when you say the half the voters "hate us," what you really mean is that you’re projecting--furiously, and with no small measure of irony, because if anyone has treated this country with contempt, debased its values, and dragged its institutions through the mud, it's not “our ilk”--it’s your standard-bearer, Donald J. Trump, and I'll leave the gullible who voted for him out of it, for now, anyway.

This is the man who turned a pandemic into a partisan football, who sneered at science while Americans died by the hundreds of thousands. He could’ve rallied the nation; instead, he held up a Bible like a branding iron and tear-gassed peaceful protesters for the photo op, and he then had the stunning stupidity to ask General Milley if he could order his military to shoot at protestors.

He politicized the judiciary not in the abstract, but with the express intent of rolling back half a century of civil rights progress, culminating in a Supreme Court that stripped away bodily autonomy like it was clearing out old files. Due process? Not in his vocabulary. When asked if he, as President, should support the Constitution, he said he didn't know, 'he's not a lawyer'. My god, I'm not a lawyer and I knew the answer to that question at least 50 years ago.

He stood on the world stage and debased American credibility, fawning over autocrats and insulting allies with the grace of a sledgehammer and the strategic sense of a pub brawler three pints deep, he pondered about the fact that if America had nukes, 'why couldn't we use them', and to add insult to injury, wondered if we could stop a hurricane by dropping a nuclear bomb in the middle of it. He made being a laughingstock seem like statecraft.

He turned public office into a personal ATM--charging taxpayers to guard him at his own golf courses, profiting from the presidency with the subtlety of a banana republic kleptocrat.

And when all else failed--when the votes were counted and the will of the people was clear--he tried to burn the Constitution to the ground by summoning a mob to storm the Capitol, declaring that democracy itself was a rigged game unless he won it. He told his crowd, over and over and over again, at every rally, over a year BEFORE the first ballot was ever cast, 'the only way Democrats can win is if they rig the election', and is it any wonder they were a gauntlet, a veritable juggernaut of rage on January 6? And the mindless Trump enablers can't seem to figure out what the source of the rage was. That's the zenith of gullibility and 'denial'.

Now if this barrage of negative seems a bit much, know that I'm just scratching the surface -- there are over a dozen books documenting Trump's mindboggling transgressions and escapades, stunning stupidity, utter incompetence, and damage done to this country, never mind the 500 pages of Vol II of the Mueller Report, never mind the over 1000 pages of the Interim Judiciary report, never mind the thousands of pages of testimony, texts, emails, documents pointing to his culpability given to us by the noble men and women of the house Jan 6 committee, never mind the 90 felony counts, 34 felony convictions whose verdict was rendered by a jury after reviewing the overwhelming evidence and thus determining guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, never mind the scores of his associates, lawyers, staff that have been disbarred, convicted, incarcerated most of whom he pardoned, never mind the utter corruption of his first 100 days of his second term as revealed here to the tune of billions: https://debatepolitics.com/threads/trumps-white-house-the-grift-that-keeps-on-grifting.569170/

So spare us the nonsense about who "hates the country." There is no way in hell anyone could vote for Donald Trump and claim they love this country. They might think they do, but they are deluded.
 
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There is a porn star named Simone W. Moon.
I'll take you word for it.

That isn't you by any chance is it?

no thoughts to share about how you support the guy who wants the govt to violate the 2nd Amendment

no thoughts to share about how you support the guy who called for terminating the US Constitution


sounds about right
 
I'll take you word for it.



no thoughts to share about how you support the guy who wants the govt to violate the 2nd Amendment

no thoughts to share about how you support the guy who called for terminating the US Constitution


sounds about right
Lincoln dumped the constitution, and it worked out fine.
 
Lincoln dumped the constitution, and it worked out fine.
lol

Are you equivocating or merely ignorant?


Somehow despite the Constitution being "terminated" by Lincoln it remained in effect for quite some time afterward—up until the present day as a matter of fact.
 
Clear sign that Trumps economic policies are doing well.......
 
Trump is a man who made a career of sneering at intellectuals, decrying facts as "fake," and slandering the press as "enemies of the people" presumed to lecture the academy on the sanctity of free speech. With all the subtlety of a wrecking ball in a library, his administration launched a campaign not to defend expression, but to conscript it--to police the discourse of universities and force it into the uniform of right-wing orthodoxy.

Under the false banner of "protecting free inquiry," Trump issued an executive order threatening to strip funding from universities that failed to accommodate the grievances of the aggrieved conservative ego. This was not liberty--it was blackmail. Institutions were told: suppress student dissent against our favored speakers or risk your research grants. It was free speech on condition it served the state’s ideological appetites. A kind of Orwellian absurdity in which coerced compliance was paraded as academic freedom.

And what did this "freedom" consist of? Not the defense of pluralism, but the elevation of grievance. Not an even-handed commitment to open dialogue, but a shrill fixation on the imagined oppression of right-wing pundits who mistake heckling for persecution and cannot distinguish between protest and censorship.

Worse still, Trump and his proxies sought to rewrite curricula, denouncing entire disciplines as treasonous and ordering the creation of a jingoistic “1776 Commission” to cleanse the historical record of inconvenient truths. It was not enough to shout down dissent; they aimed to expunge it.

So this is a grotesque attempt to leash the liberty of the mind to the whims of political power--and to call that tyranny "freedom" is an insult to the word and all who have fought to preserve it.

1. Executive Order Threatening Funding Based on Speech Codes (March 2019)

Trump signed an executive order directing federal agencies to withhold research funds from universities that failed to "promote free inquiry."

[*]Problem: The order did not define “free inquiry” in concrete or neutral terms, opening the door to partisan interpretation.
[*]Threat: It effectively politicized academic funding, implying that schools could be punished for speech deemed hostile to conservative ideas—even if those ideas are challenged by students or faculty using their own free speech rights.
[*]Result: This incentivized universities to suppress student protests or dissent against conservative speakers, chilling left-leaning speech to protect federal funding.

2. Selective Defense of Conservative Speech Only

Trump and his allies routinely framed the issue of campus free speech as a one-sided culture war in which only conservatives were being silenced.

[*]At CPAC and rallies, Trump referenced isolated incidents--e.g., a conservative student being punched or a speaker being heckled--as proof of widespread suppression.
[*]Yet there was no similar concern when leftist speakers, faculty, or protesters were harassed, disinvited, or censored (e.g., Palestinians, Black Lives Matter activists, or critics of Israel).
[*]The First Amendment protects all speech, not just ideological allies. By weaponizing "free speech" as a partisan cudgel, Trump reduced it to a slogan, not a principle.

3. DOJ and DOE Investigations into "Bias"

Trump’s Departments of Justice and Education launched investigations into universities for alleged anti-conservative bias or supposed violations of free speech.

[*]These were often politically motivated and lacked clear legal grounding.
[*]In some cases, universities were pressured to alter disciplinary policies to avoid federal scrutiny—again, chilling academic autonomy and student activism.
[*]Meanwhile, the administration showed no interest in investigating censorship of leftist voices on campus.

4. Attacks on Academic Freedom

Trump repeatedly demonized entire fields of study as politically suspect:

[*]He called critical race theory "toxic propaganda."
[*]He vowed to cut funding to schools teaching ideas he labeled "un-American."
[*]He ordered the creation of a "1776 Commission" as a nationalist counter to historical curricula that addressed slavery or systemic racism.

This isn't free speech--it's state-imposed narrative control, cloaked in patriotic language.

The Ironic Twist: Demanding "Free Speech" While Encouraging Retaliation

Trump created a chilling environment by encouraging:

[*]Doxxing of professors
[*]Student surveillance (e.g., Campus Reform and Turning Point USA’s "Professor Watchlist")
[*]Threats of legislative punishment for speech he disagreed with
Are you upset because only liberals are allowed to be partisan?

It's called authoritarianism.
What was censorship under Obama and Biden called?
 
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Trump doesn’t have actual policies or positions…he has moods.
 
He represents those of us that voted for him.

It isn't he that wants to suppress liberals it's over half the voters that do.

That's how much the nation hates you and your ilk and what you've done to our country.
So MAGA in general doesn't believe in free speech.

Got it.
 
He represents those of us that voted for him.

It isn't he that wants to suppress liberals it's over half the voters that do.

That's how much the nation hates you and your ilk and what you've done to our country.
And 50% or more of the US population can’t read at a high school level.

So 🤷‍♀️

I don’t look to individuals who are uneducated and unintelligent to guide society - nor do I place a great deal of value on their opinions.

You can “hate” whatever “ilk” you like.

That’s not a reflection on anyone but you 🤷‍♀️. And it really isn’t a badge of honor or pride, except perhaps amongst those of low intelligence
 
He represents those of us that voted for him.

It isn't he that wants to suppress liberals it's over half the voters that do.

That's how much the nation hates you and your ilk and what you've done to our country.
The reason Trump won was by promising lower prices during a time of high inflation. Not that complicated.

The people that hate liberals are uneducated losers that blame all their problems on the 2 trans athlete playing billiards. The reason your life sucks is because of your actions, not because of some NY Times writer
 
And 50% or more of the US population can’t read at a high school level.

So 🤷‍♀️

I don’t look to individuals who are uneducated and unintelligent to guide society - nor do I place a great deal of value on their opinions.

You can “hate” whatever “ilk” you like.

That’s not a reflection on anyone but you 🤷‍♀️. And it really isn’t a badge of honor or pride, except perhaps amongst those of low intelligence
That's because schools would rather have a transgenders read to the kids instead of teaching them how to read themselves.
 
So MAGA in general doesn't believe in free speech.

Got it.
Hate speech isn't free speech and that's the only type of speech the left knows.
 
lol

Are you equivocating or merely ignorant?


Somehow despite the Constitution being "terminated" by Lincoln it remained in effect for quite some time afterward—up until the present day as a matter of fact.
So, you can predict the future now?
 
Hate speech isn't free speech and that's the only type of speech the left knows.
lol

Weren't you just talking about how MAGA hates liberals and such?

lol

But we aren't talking about hate speech, we're talking criticism of Trump and MAGA. You guys hate when people say things against your Dear Leader. And you seek to destroy any amount of criticism or dissent against Dear Leader and Party.
 
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