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Does the GOP need to fear the 99% Movement?

Should the GOP should fear the 99% movement

  • Absolutely should fear it

    Votes: 19 31.1%
  • Somewhat fear it

    Votes: 7 11.5%
  • Fear it a little bit

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • Fear it a tiny bit

    Votes: 3 4.9%
  • Absolutely nothing to fear

    Votes: 20 32.8%
  • Don't know

    Votes: 1 1.6%
  • Don't care

    Votes: 6 9.8%
  • Other (explian)

    Votes: 4 6.6%

  • Total voters
    61

Can you explain to me how that works? It seems counter-intuitive: raise taxes on people, and they'll pay more taxes. I understand that it's possible to harm people through that, but the wealthy are not even close to that point. Even raising taxes to what they were under Reagan would help. We're well to the left of the Laffer curve.
 

Thank you for quoting me and then not addressing anything I said it only helps to further demonstrate my argument. You were upset that these people paid no taxes, I explained why and how they are being given no truly unfair advantage. I'm not concerned with taking money from the wealthy but it isn't irrational to believe that taking 10,000 dollars from someone making 25,000 dollars is worse than taking 10,000 dollars from someone making 250,000 dollars a year. Relatively speaking that 10,000 dollars means a lot more to someone with 15,000 dollars left over not including state taxes to live on. Whereas the wealthier individual's money does truly mean less for him, not that it means little, merely that it means less. Lowering anybody's taxes isn't a reality at this point in time, I am more than willing to admit that our country has a spending problem, however amidst the spending we already incur and will continue to incur it is necessary not only to maintain revenue but to increase it. Since the amount is significant it makes more sense to take more from the wealthy who although not uninjured will not be grievously wounded than to bleed the less fortunate among us dry. How am I personally taking something from you, the money benefits you in the same way that it does me, it doesn't go from your pockets to mine.
 
it's called "the early bird gets the worm".... it's a saying that's been around a long time.

waiting for someone else to give you worms has also been around a long time... but it's generally not celebrated as the proper way to live.

But you notice it didn't say ALL the worms, right?

Historically, the early bird that grabs ALL the worms eventually gets pecked to death by the other birds.
 
that is a bogus claim

only taxing the rich more will encourage dem politicians to claim that such tax hikes will raise revenue (not a proven fact) and that will be used to justify more social spending to buy votes
Can I see your evidence that raising taxes on the rich will not raise revenue? And as to increasing social spending, let's discuss one thing at the time.

I'm not worried about any sort of "message", I'm just looking at whether or not it would help the deficit. More money coming in would certainly help. Every president in the last 30 years has tried to lower tax rates on the wealthy, and we're not exactly working with a booming economy here.


Raising taxes on the lower rung of the ladder won't really raise enough taxes to make a credible dent in the problem. Letting the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy expire, on the other hand, would do plenty.


Out of curiousity, how did you become so wealthy?


I disagree. Look at the "Buffet Rule" as its being called. The rich often have their money from sources like investments which yield much lower taxes than straight income. If you pay less than your secretary, there's a problem.

No you are being dishonest

we have not had that scenario so you cannot possibly claim that at all

Ah yes, trickle-down economics: the philosophy that if you feed the ox enough oats, there will be some left over for the sparrows.


Every president we've between 1980 and 2008 supported trickle-down economics, and our economy is in tatters.




 
I expect the middle class to stop being addicted to the milk government feeds them from the public teat but rather they go out and do some hunting on their own

The government's boobies are reserved for the rich, dammit!

Working class = does all the real work in this country. If it weren't for us, the rich wouldn't be rich. We build it, we buy it, they get all the money.
 

I'm curious, how exactly is one billionaire better than 1,000 millionaires?
 
well of course you say that. :shrug:

winners are working, the losers are boohooing

if all those clowns were to be evaporated tomorrow, I doubt America would suffer in the least
 
The government's boobies are reserved for the rich, dammit!

Working class = does all the real work in this country. If it weren't for us, the rich wouldn't be rich. We build it, we buy it, they get all the money.

Yeah keep believing that nonsense
 
What raising taxes on the wealthy and corporations does is make it very attractive to re-invest their gross profits into development and more manufacturing to reduce the amount of taxable income (net profit is gross profit - cost of doing business). Giving them a lower tax rate reduces this incentive. This is why I favor raising the taxes on the groups in question. It has nothing to do with wanting a free ride, suckling the government teat or any of the other nonsense several posters try to say is behind every people who favors this.
 
winners are working, the losers are boohooing

if all those clowns were to be evaporated tomorrow, I doubt America would suffer in the least

That's a lot of Americans you are selectively choosing to hate there.
 
I expect the middle class to stop being addicted to the milk government feeds them from the public teat but rather they go out and do some hunting on their own

Just for a laugh, read that sentence from MY perspective. Then think Aerosmith.
 

please please please don't buy into that joke known as the Laffer Curve.
 
winners are working, the losers are boohooing

if all those clowns were to be evaporated tomorrow, I doubt America would suffer in the least

That's the thing: in our country, working hard isn't necessarily enough to get you through. When people are coming out of college with a heap of debt and are unable to find a job that's any better than serving coffee, you have a problem. You can ignore them, you can dismiss them, you can mock them, you can even say its their fault for somehow not being competitive enough in the job marketplace, but the thing is that there's a lot of them, and they're upset that they can't just work harder. In any other country, that would lead to a revolution. In America, well we'll see
 

You believe in using the tax code to force other people to behave in a way you want which is why I want everyone to pay taxes to force those who want to freeload to face increased costs when they vote for more government.

Actually as someone who understands investment-if you raise taxes on people like me we invest it in areas where it won't get taxed as much or we stop spending as much which hurts people who depend on our spending

we tend to be much smarter about this than those of you who don't have much investment income
 

I think that's effectively what she's saying: if you tax them more, they'll invest more into their business in ways that help the economy.

Also, what did you do to earn your wealth?
 
That's a lot of Americans you are selectively choosing to hate there.

hate has nothing to do with it

its an honest observation
 
I expect people to aspire to greatness, not to be content with scraps.

You do realize that at this point, 80% of the people are fighting over what can only be called "scraps" when contrasted to that years "carcass".
 
Just for a laugh, read that sentence from MY perspective. Then think Aerosmith.

I have no clue what your perspective is

and based on what I have seen from some of those protestors the only Aerosmith line I can think of is

DUDE LOOKS LIKE A LADY
 
Actually as someone who understands investment-if you raise taxes on people like me we invest it in areas where it won't get taxed as much or we stop spending as much which hurts people who depend on our spending

I guess you don't realize that you are agreeing with him in that if you raise taxes on the wealthy then you get much more reinvestment in the businesses they own rather than doling it out in executive paychecks where it'd be taxed more.

we tend to be much smarter about this than those of you who don't have much investment income

much suck to be getting schooled by us po' folk then.
 

Why am I reminded of the words of Spock? "Fascinating!"
 
hate has nothing to do with it

its an honest observation

... of how much you hate a huge swath of Americans. Yes. It was very honest.
 
winners are working, the losers are boohooing

if all those clowns were to be evaporated tomorrow, I doubt America would suffer in the least
well of course you say that too.
 
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