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My church showed a film by a group called the Wall-Builders that stated that the intent of the 1st amendment wasn't Freedom of Religion, but Freedom of Conscience. This was in the 2nd last week before the election. They followed that up with a video clip - a plea from Ben Carson for a vote for Republican candidates.
I didn't think Freedom of Religion was questioned in this country. From what I've read, James Madison, who authored the Bill of Rights (the 1st ten amendments), took the exact text from the Virginia Bill of Rights. Thomas Jefferson was the governor of Virginia. He was a self-professed Deist, and constantly spoke about Freedom of Religion. Jefferson and Madison, both Virginians, were friends for over 50 years.
My church showed a film by a group called the Wall-Builders that stated that the intent of the 1st amendment wasn't Freedom of Religion, but Freedom of Conscience. This was in the 2nd last week before the election. They followed that up with a video clip - a plea from Ben Carson for a vote for Republican candidates.
I didn't think Freedom of Religion was questioned in this country. From what I've read, James Madison, who authored the Bill of Rights (the 1st ten amendments), took the exact text from the Virginia Bill of Rights. Thomas Jefferson was the governor of Virginia. He was a self-professed Deist, and constantly spoke about Freedom of Religion. Jefferson and Madison, both Virginians, were friends for over 50 years.
Freak group. They also claim weed is killing people, Obama set Israel up for destruction , and Thomas Jefferson didn't **** slaves. If you belive this you are naive. If your church spewed this non sense to you, you should run, run fast.
Unfortunately many American Christians don't believe we have freedom of religion, only a freedom to believe THEIR religion. Yes we have that constitutional right and you should avoid hanging around people who disagree or oppose it.
And FYI, Jesus was the kind of person who tore down walls between people, not someone who erected them. I'd question how Christlike someone can be if they consider themselves a "Wall Builder".
Why is your church preaching politics?
Why is your church preaching politics?
The 1st amendment is pretty "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof". that means government can not prohibit any religion and has to take a neutral stance on religion.IE freedom of religion. Freedom of conscience is a by-product of that due to the fact that is part of exercising your religion.Much the same way the right to privacy is a by-product of the 4th amendment due to law enforcement needing warrants based on probable cause to search people and their belongings and to seize persons and property(people deliberately try to claim the 4th amendment is about privacy in order to say well since you are outside then you have no expectation of privacy in order to get around the 4th amendment ).My church showed a film by a group called the Wall-Builders that stated that the intent of the 1st amendment wasn't Freedom of Religion, but Freedom of Conscience. This was in the 2nd last week before the election. They followed that up with a video clip - a plea from Ben Carson for a vote for Republican candidates.
I didn't think Freedom of Religion was questioned in this country. From what I've read, James Madison, who authored the Bill of Rights (the 1st ten amendments), took the exact text from the Virginia Bill of Rights. Thomas Jefferson was the governor of Virginia. He was a self-professed Deist, and constantly spoke about Freedom of Religion. Jefferson and Madison, both Virginians, were friends for over 50 years.
The 1st amendment is pretty "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof". that means government can not prohibit any religion and has to take a neutral stance on religion.IE freedom of religion. Freedom of conscience is a by-product of that due to the fact that is part of exercising your religion.Much the same way the right to privacy is a by-product of the 4th amendment due to law enforcement needing warrants based on probable cause to search people and their belongings and to seize persons and property(people deliberately try to claim the 4th amendment is about privacy in order to say well since you are outside then you have no expectation of privacy in order to get around the 4th amendment ).
Unfortunately many American Christians don't believe we have freedom of religion, only a freedom to believe THEIR religion. Yes we have that constitutional right and you should avoid hanging around people who disagree or oppose it.
And FYI, Jesus was the kind of person who tore down walls between people, not someone who erected them. I'd question how Christlike someone can be if they consider themselves a "Wall Builder".
All of what you said is true; however, the only gripe that I have is that they're not receiving a tax bill for performing those activities of conspicuously supporting a certain candidate. (and I have seen this done with both sides of the political mainstream, too.)1.Because there is not a "one at a time" clause in the first amendment.Meaning they can preach about Jesus, run a newspaper, talk about politics, petition for a redress of grievances to the government, protest peacefully, and or talk about politics all at the same time.
2.Its the duty of any good religious leader to inform his or her congregation/members what moral choices their members should be making including picking politicians who are moral. I know leftist and die hard atheists believe that when you go vote that you are supposed to tell what ever god you believe in to go **** him or herself that you are going to vote however you want regardless if the candidate contradicts those religious beliefs.
When a government will allow a manorah or any other type of religious symbol in the name of diversity but refuses to allow a manager scene or anything to do with Christian religion because it might offend someone then yea go figure on that one.
1.Because there is not a "one at a time" clause in the first amendment.Meaning they can preach about Jesus, run a newspaper, talk about politics, petition for a redress of grievances to the government, protest peacefully, and or talk about politics all at the same time.
2.Its the duty of any good religious leader to inform his or her congregation/members what moral choices their members should be making including picking politicians who are moral. I know leftist and die hard atheists believe that when you go vote that you are supposed to tell what ever god you believe in to go **** him or herself that you are going to vote however you want regardless if the candidate contradicts those religious beliefs.
When a government will allow a manorah or any other type of religious symbol in the name of diversity but refuses to allow a manager scene or anything to do with Christian religion because it might offend someone then yea go figure on that one.
Can you show when and where manger scenes were banned from the US? You don't want religious freedom, you want religious domination by having local governments erect nativity scenes and support YOUR religion. Would you feel the same way if the muslims and satanists set up their religious monuments on government property with tax payer dollars?
You want to mix government and religion but only when it's your own. If you weren't bent on religious domination you'd be happy with the nativity scene at the church and wouldn't demand to force it on everyone else through the government.
If American christians gave one flying **** about their religious beliefs when selecting politicians they wouldn't have overwhelmingly chosen Donald Trump. You literally couldn't invent a less Christ-like person if you tried. What it really is is you choose whatever candidate supports your own subjective beliefs then pretend god supports your choice as some kind of cosmic justification.
Where is your backing for this statement? Something said by Glenn Beck o FOX LIES? It amazes that Beck can even seem Christian to anybody, with all his lies.
A church could lose it's tax exempt status for preaching politics and/or interfering in an election...1.Because there is not a "one at a time" clause in the first amendment.Meaning they can preach about Jesus, run a newspaper, talk about politics, petition for a redress of grievances to the government, protest peacefully, and or talk about politics all at the same time.
2.Its the duty of any good religious leader to inform his or her congregation/members what moral choices their members should be making including picking politicians who are moral. I know leftist and die hard atheists believe that when you go vote that you are supposed to tell what ever god you believe in to go **** him or herself that you are going to vote however you want regardless if the candidate contradicts those religious beliefs.
My church showed a film by a group called the Wall-Builders that stated that the intent of the 1st amendment wasn't Freedom of Religion, but Freedom of Conscience. This was in the 2nd last week before the election. They followed that up with a video clip - a plea from Ben Carson for a vote for Republican candidates.
I didn't think Freedom of Religion was questioned in this country. From what I've read, James Madison, who authored the Bill of Rights (the 1st ten amendments), took the exact text from the Virginia Bill of Rights. Thomas Jefferson was the governor of Virginia. He was a self-professed Deist, and constantly spoke about Freedom of Religion. Jefferson and Madison, both Virginians, were friends for over 50 years.
Unfortunately many American Christians don't believe we have freedom of religion, only a freedom to believe THEIR religion. Yes we have that constitutional right and you should avoid hanging around people who disagree or oppose it.
And FYI, Jesus was the kind of person who tore down walls between people, not someone who erected them. I'd question how Christlike someone can be if they consider themselves a "Wall Builder".
1.Because there is not a "one at a time" clause in the first amendment.Meaning they can preach about Jesus, run a newspaper, talk about politics, petition for a redress of grievances to the government, protest peacefully, and or talk about politics all at the same time.
2.Its the duty of any good religious leader to inform his or her congregation/members what moral choices their members should be making including picking politicians who are moral. I know leftist and die hard atheists believe that when you go vote that you are supposed to tell what ever god you believe in to go **** him or herself that you are going to vote however you want regardless if the candidate contradicts those religious beliefs.
Arguably they can't.
The IRS continues to make it clear that political campaign intervention by 501(c)(3) organizations including churches is absolutely prohibited.
Under the Internal Revenue Code, all section 501(c)(3) organizations are absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office. Contributions to political campaign funds or public statements of position (verbal or written) made on behalf of the organization in favor of or in opposition to any candidate for public office clearly violate the prohibition against political campaign activity. Violating this prohibition may result in denial or revocation of tax-exempt status and the imposition of certain excise taxes
From Forbes.
A church could lose it's tax exempt status for preaching politics and/or interfering in an election...
"...The Pew Research Center developed an extensive guide to answer questions about churches, politics, and tax laws. It’s called, “Preaching Politics From The Pulpit.” If caught breaking federal laws, religious organizations may have their tax exemption status revoked. This can lead to a loss of substantial cash back tax benefits equaling large amounts of money.
According to Pew, to qualify for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt status under the Internal Revenue Code, an organization must meet the following requirements:
"...The organization must be organized and operated exclusively for religious, educational, scientific or other charitable purposes;
Net earnings may not inure to the benefit of any private individual or shareholder;
No substantial part of the organization’s activities may involve attempts to influence legislation;
The organization may not intervene in political campaigns;
The organization’s purposes or activities may not be illegal or violate fundamental public policy.
Preaching Politics From the Pulpit | Pew Research Center
A church could lose it's tax exempt status for preaching politics and/or interfering in an election...
"...The Pew Research Center developed an extensive guide to answer questions about churches, politics, and tax laws. It’s called, “Preaching Politics From The Pulpit.” If caught breaking federal laws, religious organizations may have their tax exemption status revoked. This can lead to a loss of substantial cash back tax benefits equaling large amounts of money.
According to Pew, to qualify for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt status under the Internal Revenue Code, an organization must meet the following requirements:
"...The organization must be organized and operated exclusively for religious, educational, scientific or other charitable purposes;
Net earnings may not inure to the benefit of any private individual or shareholder;
No substantial part of the organization’s activities may involve attempts to influence legislation;
The organization may not intervene in political campaigns;
The organization’s purposes or activities may not be illegal or violate fundamental public policy.
Preaching Politics From the Pulpit | Pew Research Center
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