Does the base of the GOP make it impossible for their leadership to work together with the democrats, is compromise unacceptable?

[Fletch]

Not without a speaker.

They re still investigating.

 

[trouble13]

This is why Republicans can't govern. They're using their own supply, and the first rule of drug dealing is you don't use your own supply.

The unserious attitude that your displaying is why i endorse the hardline approach that a few Republicans appear to be taking. If no substantive conversion are offered to them and they leave the house closed until the next election. I will not lose a wink of sleep.

 

[mike2810]

The I'm serious attitude that your displaying is why i endorse the hardline approach that a few Republicans appear to be taking. If no substantive conversion are offered to them and they leave the house closed until the next election. I will not lose a wink of sleep.

"house closed till next election", really?

What impact do you believe that would have on
- the economy
- the military
- responses to national disasters
- airline travel

Without an approved budget military personnel will not get paid, nor air traffic controllers, first responders, disaster relief money.
Yep. Great way to manage and govern. Sit back and wait for things to close down and the next election.

 

[trouble13]

"house closed till next election", really?

What impact do you believe that would have on
- the economy
- the military
- responses to national disasters
- airline travel

Without an approved budget military personnel will not get paid, nor air traffic controllers, first responders, disaster relief money.
Yep. Great way to manage and govern. Sit back and wait for things to close down and the next election.

That would be the result of of unwillingness by spendalcholics to compromise. I will sleep just fine.

Let's not lose sight of the fact that these are the same unserious people who since the seat was vacated have taken more days off than they have worked to find a replacement. If they aren't going to take their job seriously I rather they do nothing than more of the same.

 

[Callen]

would be the result of of unwillingness by spendalcholics to compromise

What constitutes compromise in your mind?

 

[trouble13]

What constitutes compromise in your mind?

A start would be to pass appropriations bills on time instead of trying to force these CSRs on us, year after year.

 

[post]

The unserious attitude that your displaying is why i endorse the hardline approach that a few Republicans appear to be taking. If no substantive conversion are offered to them and they leave the house closed until the next election. I will not lose a wink of sleep.

Where will you sleep? You won't have a place to live, if your preference comes true... no banks, access to financial transactions,
government payments, financial transaction clearing..

You confirm your support for the freedom caucus game plan, AKA, "burn it all down".

Truman convenes a special session of Congress, July 26, 1948

The move proved to be bold political gesture on the president's part.

www.politico.com

By ANDREW GLASS
07/26/2017 12:00 AM EDT

"On 27 occasions, presidents have called both houses into session to deal with a crisis. The most recent of these special sessions — and the first one since 1856 — met at the behest of President Harry S. Truman on this day in 1948.

With less than four months remaining before Election Day, Truman’s approval rating stood at 36 percent. His GOP opponent, New York Gov. Thomas Dewey, looked like a sure winner..."


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[Callen]

A start would be to pass appropriations bills on time instead of trying to force these CSRs on us, year after year.

How is that compromise? The Dems have no control over that this session.

 

[soap box]

They re still investigating.

When do the committees meet next?

 

[post]

The investigation of the Biden Crime Family is going forward no matter how much you protest.

I got a bridge.... when can you come by?

 

[mike2810]

That would be the result of of unwillingness by spendalcholics to compromise. I will sleep just fine.

Let's not lose sight of the fact that these are the same unserious people who since the seat was vacated have taken more days off than they have worked to find a replacement. If they aren't going to take their job seriously I rather they do nothing than more of the same.

That did not answer my question.
I take it you want to crash the economy, weaken our security, not support our military, etc.
If that is what you support, we are in big trouble.

 

[mike2810]

A start would be to pass appropriations bills on time instead of trying to force these CSRs on us, year after year.

I can agree that Congress neeeds to pass appropriations bills in a timely manner.
They have not for decades. Hence Congress is broken. It has gotten worse in the last 10 years.

 

[trouble13]

How is that compromise? The Dems have no control over that this session.

The Dems have almost have the votes in the house. They can offer compromised bills. We want this and in exchange for it we are willing to give you this for it.

If it were up to me I would tell congress for any new spending they want approbed they would have to accompany it with dollar for dollar cuts to existing spending.

 

[Callen]

The Dems have almost have the votes in the house. They can offer compromised bills. We want this and in exchange for it we are willing to give you this for it.

Who are you trying to kid? The Dems were not given one single opportunity to provide input to the appropriations bills that were passed out of the House with zero debate or opportunity for ammendments. "Almost" having the votes is totally meaningless, the Dems can't offer compromise bills they have no power to do that.

 

[PirateMk1]

Or is it the leadership themselves who are unwilling to compromise which has brought us to the place we are at in the now gop run house?

The democrats are just about begging the house republicans to get their stuff together so we can have to participating parties governing america.

Nothing is getting done with no speaker. Is this acceptable to you regardless of your party?

The current House situation is very acceptable to me. As for "compromise" the Republicans regularly **** themselves in the negotiations and get little to nothing while giving away everything. The base is VERY tired of this. If there is to be compromise it better be damned good for the Republicans or the base aint having it. There is a war in the party between the establishment government centric shills and the new generation of Maga and conservatives and libertarians who understand the Democratic party leadership and the Republican establishment are some evil bastards who only represent the governing class and their donors and simply use the base for votes. McCarthy's ouster was a symptom of this divide. He didnt follow through as he said and went and directly violated the terms of his deal to get him elected Speaker. McCarthy is as establishment as you get. He is a the protégé of Bill Thomas, both theses men are crooked bastards.

 

[mike2810]

The Dems have almost have the votes in the house. They can offer compromised bills. We want this and in exchange for it we are willing to give you this for it.

If it were up to me I would tell congress for any new spending they want approbed they would have to accompany it with dollar for dollar cuts to existing spending.

Should Congress look at the revenue side of the budget equation?

 

[trouble13]

That did not answer my question.
I take it you want to crash the economy, weaken our security, not support our military, etc.
If that is what you support, we are in big trouble.

I don't control how you take things. Nor am I swayed by your doomsday tactic. That game has gotten the people to go along with running our debt up to $33T and continue on a record oace of spending. They can't even agree to go back to pre-covid levels of spending.

 

[Jay59]

Democrats shouldn't make concessions with legislative terrorists (John Boehner's words, not ours). We vote for people to the federal government so that they can at least try to make good use of our taxpayers; you all vote for liberal tears. Well, this is your result. Ironically, though, it seems like there's been a lot more conservative tears lately.

In a nutshell, your entire argument is that you are right and they are wrong.

It's not surprising. Democrats have become the party of elitists. You fit right in.
.

 

[mike2810]

I don't control how you take things. Nor am I swayed by your doomsday tactic. That game has gotten the people to go along with running our debt up to $33T and continue on a record oace of spending. They can't even agree to go back to pre-covid levels of spending.

you could just not respond. Instead you like to shift and run down rabbit holes.

Then you do not believe there would be a negative impact on the things I listed. Got it.

What is interesting is you and I do agree on certain things. Like Congress should stop the CR bs and pass budgets on time.
We can agree that the US is overspending based on its current revenue stream.

Congress and mainly the House is not doing what they were elected to do. They are failing in passing budgets, and carrying out other duties to ensure the security of America.

 

[Big Brother]

Lol. You libs only talk compromise when you are out of power.

And refuse to budge at all when they are in power. There are now two parties that won't budge on anything that helps the people, but will gladly come together to fund the defense contractors and authorize WWIII. America desperately needs about 10 political parties.

 

[trouble13]

Should Congress look at the revenue side of the budget equation?

I think the gov gets plenty already but I am willing to make the same compromise that I am on new spending.

They can raise taxes as much as they want provided that for every dollar they add in revenue they accompany it with a reduction in existing spending of an equal amount.

 

[trouble13]

you could just not respond. Instead you like to shift and run down rabbit holes.

Then you do not believe there would be a negative impact on the things I listed. Got it.

What is interesting is you and I do agree on certain things. Like Congress should stop the CR bs and pass budgets on time.
We can agree that the US is overspending based on its current revenue stream.

Congress and mainly the House is not doing what they were elected to do. They are failing in passing budgets, and carrying out other duties to ensure the security of America.

I get it. You don't like my approach to fixing it. You think im being too drastic. I don't agree with you. I think drastic is what is needed at this point.

In the spirit of fairness, how would you fix the problem? Pleading with them to stop hasn't worked.

 

[Cardinal]

The unserious attitude that your displaying is why i endorse the hardline approach that a few Republicans appear to be taking. If no substantive conversion are offered to them and they leave the house closed until the next election. I will not lose a wink of sleep.

You think the post of yours I responded to is "substantive conversation"?

 

[eman623]

It's not the base of the GOP that's the problem. It's the 4% fringe.

And it's not like the Dems don't have the same potential problem. Remember Manchin and Sinema?

 

[eman623]

This will all sort itself out in 24.

We will elect enough GOP reps, so we have a big enough majority that 4% of the Reps (and 100% of Dems) can't throw the House into chaos.