Does no one want to touch this murder in Frisco Texas??

[Cosmo]

UH..isn't that what police is supposed to do? Not knee a suspect to death on the street while everyone is watching.

Debatable. I think the evidence pointed to an overdose/heart failure.

 

[Citizen]

Debatable. I think the evidence pointed to an overdose/heart failure.

You think wrong. Chauvan is in jail where he belongs Time to let it go.

 

[Somerville]

A pardon is still a pardon, and you're still quibbling because you don't want to be consistent when it comes to the left.

Unlike the Trump pardons for 6 January idiots, the woman named in the Biden pardon had 'enjoyed' her full sentence. "quibbling" - in my mind simply doesn't apply in this instance. Trump pardoned people who had not served the full sentences for their crimes.

Now, if you can find a Biden pardon for a person convicted of a violent crime before they had completed their full sentence, then I might agree with you, but I don't think ol' Sleepy Joe pardoned 1500+ criminals.

 

[Cosmo]

Unlike the Trump pardons for 6 January idiots, the woman named in the Biden pardon had 'enjoyed' her full sentence. "quibbling" - in my mind simply doesn't apply in this instance. Trump pardoned people who had not served the full sentences for their crimes.

Now, if you can find a Biden pardon for a person convicted of a violent crime before they had completed their full sentence, then I might agree with you, but I don't think ol' Sleepy Joe pardoned 1500+ criminals.

So pardoning for any nonviolent crimes is OK, but pardoning for violent crimes is not (unless the person already served the sentence)? Just trying to figure out which crimes are OK and which are not.

 

[Somerville]

So pardoning for any nonviolent crimes is OK, but pardoning for violent crimes is not (unless the person already served the sentence)? Just trying to figure out which crimes are OK and which are not.

Interesting. You appear to have failed basic high school course on America's legal system, which would have been part of an American History class.

When an act is stated to be a crime by the laws presently valid in this country, said act is not seen as "OK", whether the act was violent and harmed another person, or one that caused no physical harm.

 

[Cosmo]

Interesting. You appear to have failed basic high school course on America's legal system, which would have been part of an American History class.

When an act is stated to be a crime by the laws presently valid in this country, said act is not seen as "OK", whether the act was violent and harmed another person, or one that caused no physical harm.

Why are you dodging the question? You know what I'm asking: give us your criteria of what pardons are OK and which are not. Don't dance around it.

 

[noonereal]

what murder? You did not include a link. Maybe that would help?

Still waiting @Maidenrules29

 

[Somerville]

Why are you dodging the question? You know what I'm asking: give us your criteria of what pardons are OK and which are not. Don't dance around it.

My personal opinion and nothing more - A pardon, AFTER a person has served the full sentence imposed, is OK with me.

There were some really 'nice' people that Trump pardoned, people with extensive criminal records BEFORE their 'peaceful' demonstration on January 6, 2021

Criminal records of Jan. 6 rioters pardoned by Trump include rape, domestic violence​

NPR has identified dozens of defendants with prior convictions or pending charges for crimes including rape, sexual abuse of a minor, domestic violence, manslaughter, production of child sexual abuse material and drug trafficking.

One of those defendants, Matthew Huttle, was recently shot and killed by law enforcement in Indiana during a traffic stop just days after receiving a pardon for his role in the Capitol riot.

So - the staff at NPR - bunch of libruls obviously - were able to identify "dozens" of Jan 6ers with criminal records, but that would have been too much work for the new president in Jan 2025.

"It would be very, very cumbersome to go and look – you know how many people we're talking about? 1,500 people," Trump told Fox News earlier this month.

Theodore Middendorf was accused by Illinois prosecutors of "Predatory Criminal Sexual Assault of a Child."

Peter Schwartz had a "jaw-dropping criminal history of 38 prior convictions going back to 1991" when he assaulted police officers with pepper spray on Jan. 6, according to federal prosecutors.

David Daniel of Mint Hill, N.C., is charged with "Production of Child Pornography" and "Possession of Child Pornography," which allegedly "involved a prepubescent minor" and a child under 12 years old.

Daniel Ball had a criminal record before his arrest for Jan. 6, including for "Domestic Violence Battery by Strangulation," "Resisting Law Enforcement with Violence," and "Battery on Law Enforcement Officer."

The Harris County District Attorney in Texas has said that Andrew Taake is wanted on 2016 charges of soliciting a minor online.

Kasey Hopkins, "has a lengthy and troubling criminal history" including a 2002 conviction for "forcible rape," which resulted in a seven-year prison sentence

In 2004, Edward Richmond Jr. was serving in the U.S. Army when he "was convicted of manslaughter after shooting a hand-cuffed Iraqi cow herder in the head with his rifle


Jonathan Gennaro Mellis had a previous felony criminal conviction for drug trafficking — conspiracy to manufacture or sell methamphetamine

Benjamin Martin pled to obstruction of a public officer in 2003, a 2016 battery charge where he repeatedly struck his 14-year-old daughter, and a 2018 battery charge where Martin choked his girlfriend and dragged her back into the house after she tried to flee

In 2006, Edward Hemenway pleaded guilty to "Sexual Battery and Criminal Confinement" and was initially sentenced to three years in prison.

 

[Cosmo]

My personal opinion and nothing more - A pardon, AFTER a person has served the full sentence imposed, is OK with me.

So anybody Obama or Biden pardoned that still had time to serve is NOT OK?

There were some really 'nice' people that Trump pardoned, people with extensive criminal records BEFORE their 'peaceful' demonstration on January 6, 2021



So - the staff at NPR - bunch of libruls obviously - were able to identify "dozens" of Jan 6ers with criminal records, but that would have been too much work for the new president in Jan 2025.


Theodore Middendorf was accused by Illinois prosecutors of "Predatory Criminal Sexual Assault of a Child."

Peter Schwartz had a "jaw-dropping criminal history of 38 prior convictions going back to 1991" when he assaulted police officers with pepper spray on Jan. 6, according to federal prosecutors.

David Daniel of Mint Hill, N.C., is charged with "Production of Child Pornography" and "Possession of Child Pornography," which allegedly "involved a prepubescent minor" and a child under 12 years old.

Daniel Ball had a criminal record before his arrest for Jan. 6, including for "Domestic Violence Battery by Strangulation," "Resisting Law Enforcement with Violence," and "Battery on Law Enforcement Officer."

The Harris County District Attorney in Texas has said that Andrew Taake is wanted on 2016 charges of soliciting a minor online.

Kasey Hopkins, "has a lengthy and troubling criminal history" including a 2002 conviction for "forcible rape," which resulted in a seven-year prison sentence

In 2004, Edward Richmond Jr. was serving in the U.S. Army when he "was convicted of manslaughter after shooting a hand-cuffed Iraqi cow herder in the head with his rifle
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Jonathan Gennaro Mellis had a previous felony criminal conviction for drug trafficking — conspiracy to manufacture or sell methamphetamine

Benjamin Martin pled to obstruction of a public officer in 2003, a 2016 battery charge where he repeatedly struck his 14-year-old daughter, and a 2018 battery charge where Martin choked his girlfriend and dragged her back into the house after she tried to flee

In 2006, Edward Hemenway pleaded guilty to "Sexual Battery and Criminal Confinement" and was initially sentenced to three years in prison.

 

[straykatz]

Judge who presided over bail bond case targeted

 

[medi]

After telling them they would have to fight to save their country.

And of course he just stood and watched it even after the chants of “Hang Pence” started. Didn’t seem to have any sense of urgency when they didn’t obey him.

When does he ever tolerate disobedience?

And he still pardoned them.

So was ok with them not being peaceful.

Hadn't even gotten thru page one of this thread and some BoEx pops up. You wanna start a chat about riots, how about that BLM related stuff in the years before what y'all are discussing. We have a Wikipedia link in one of these threads about the false claim made by a Community Citizen here who wrote that BLM had nothing to do with those fires started that burned down a whole bunch of buildings in more than one city.

So you wanna discuss riots in this thread, start with 2020.

United States racial unrest (2020–2023) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Lord of Planar]

Hadn't even gotten thru page one of this thread and some BoEx pops up. You wanna start a chat about riots, how about that BLM related stuff in the years before what y'all are discussing. We have a Wikipedia link in one of these threads about the false claim made by a Community Citizen here who wrote that BLM had nothing to do with those fires started that burned down a whole bunch of buildings in more than one city.

So you wanna discuss riots in this thread, start with 2020.

United States racial unrest (2020–2023) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

All that did was set black black society. Made borderline people hate the blacks.

 

[medi]

All that did was set black black society. Made borderline people hate the blacks.

Well, I wasn't in the U.S. when it happened. It didn't make us look so cool in the media around Asia, that's for sure. I still remember the trouble in the 60s and that was some nasty stuff. Plus I confess to not really focusing much on the BLM folks and their management and such, but I suspect I do have a file/folder on one of my units when that was happening. Might even have been during my relapse time at the hospital and they let me set up a kind of temp work station with a couple units without a server, of course. I might have maintained a Net Watch during that time and maintained a folder.

As for that hating blacks thing, I've never had that kind of trouble, except from some southern folks in the military that didn't like my attitude of not treating black folks in some different way. I did have this thing against ALL Asians after an evac from Nam, but being forced to go to the ROK with a new unit got that stupid attitude out of me. But then the Koreans taught me to hate Japanese, which I fell for. Then an odd twist of fate had me in Japan and I got that out of my system. Chun Doo Wan didn't know he was doing me a big favor. None of us knew until I asked my boss to let me fly recon out of Yokota. That was a big mistake and put me into a situation with the Japanese government, which was quite an education. Got over that 'hate Japanese' thing mighty fast. But the 'getting over' started rather early while I was on forced leave and I think when I was touring Kyoto. Started realizing that maybe the Japanese were also humans. Hence my asking my boss to allow me more time in-country.

But never did get into that anti-black folks thing. Or the anti-Spanish speaking folks thing, which was also a big deal in the 60s and 70s. One weird stereotyping, though, that was weird; the troopers from Puerto Rico were darn good snipers, for some odd reason.

Good gosh, this post got long. Sorry.

 

[markdc]

I'm not going to touch the race aspect....

If the race of the suspect and victim were reversed, the Left and MSM would be all over this story and accusing the suspect of being a White supremacist regardless of motive, and there’d be over a dozen threads on this forum related to this incident.

Mark