Does It Matter What Republicans Think Anymore?

[Aunt Antifa]

Spare me the nonsense. It's just double-standards and everyone knows it.

“Everyone” is who? People that read The Blaze?

 

[Grandpappy]

In 2024, there will be no lies about the Republican president, and the Democrat's failures will be front and center. Enjoy your power now, you wont have it long.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

In 2024, there will be no lies about the Republican president, and the Democrat's failures will be front and center. Enjoy your power now, you wont have it long.

GOP is going to spend the next few months voting against raising corp tax rate and tax rate on wealthy. That’ll bring the indies back in droves.

 

[redbeer]

YEs yes, they’re approximately 1/3 of the country and all that, I’m not arguing from an EC perspective, from a rational-is-this-salvagable-perspective. Because coming to a conclusion on the latter will help with the former.

Here’s the gist:



This is a base taht no longer cares about sharing our reality, let alone the country. The post-2020 election has been one giant wounded yelp every day from Trump voters that they wuz robbed, and as such everything is illegitimate. They applauded the insurrection, are currently obsessed with phony audits that they insist must stand as the final word on the election (unless it doesn’t give them what they want, which wont’ matter cause they’ll insist it did anyway).

So, if you have 74m people who refuse to recognize that the other 2/3rds have agency, desires, wants, and a say in the country, what then? They are pushing voter suppression laws left and right, and keep promising us Jan 6 was a shot across the bow.

Does Republican voter opinions on things matter anymore? How do you argue with folks that don’t care about proving anything or having it disproved because at the heart of their belief system is that their wants are the only legitimate priority for the country, and everything else is the result of…whatever this weeks’ gigantic conpsiracy issue is. We spent a year fighting over safety protocals to protect citizens from a deadly pandemic, the major resistence from the right was due to deciding covid was just another lefty “cause” that they wanted to disprove. It cost us 600k American lives. And they*still* won’t own up to being wrong about everything because it’s not about being right or wrong, it’s about power.

Dunno how you keep a union if folks like this play a major role in shaping its future. There is no good faith. There is no desire to “meet in the middle”. And I don’t know why I need to “meet in the middle” on things like deadly pandemics.

This ideology has you desiring to censor over 74 million Americans.....now this is some weird, but scary stuff. Because you now hold control, speaking of silencing 1/3 of the country is virtuous? Have you so soon forgotten how insane the liberals were during the entire Trump administration? Why the hatred......that in itself should raise the red flag for any honest seeking person to steer way clear of this kind of talk, imo.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

This ideology has you desiring to censor over 74 million Americans.....now this is some weird, but scary stuff. Because you now hold control, speaking of silencing 1/3 of the country is virtuous? Have you so soon forgotten how insane the liberals were during the entire Trump administration? Why the hatred......that in itself should raise the red flag for any honest seeking person to steer way clear of this kind of talk, imo.

Who said anything about silencing you? It’s just a matter of we have a country to run and the GOP has been having on long psychotic break for 4 years now.

There is no middle ground on accepting your bullshit about the 2020 election, for example. We don’t need your approval of election results.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

Here are the GOP’s big proposals to the problems facing the country:

Covid - do nothing.
Healthcare - do nothing.
Gun control - do nothing.
Increasing economic disparity - wait for it - do nothing.

No ideas; no interest in governing or legislating. Just endless victimhood.

 

[US&THEM]

I hope she goes there to tour the sights snd prove that COVID and masks are just a librul hoax.

These rightwing morons won’t stop their BS. Rand Paul lecturing Fauci on herd immunity etc. They have zero skin in the game, so they sit there and bitch. The perpetuate conspiracy theories in hopes to carry favor with the Trumpers.

 

[redbeer]

Who said anything about silencing you? It’s just a matter of we have a country to run and the GOP has been having on long psychotic break for 4 years now.

There is no middle ground on accepting your bullshit about the 2020 election, for example. We don’t need your approval of election results.

The very title of your OP is this: "Does it matter what Republicans think anymore?". You cannot silence truth or justice, for it comes to us all. Not wanting to even listen to someone is bad enough, but you are promoting an entire group of people to silence another, different group, just because of disagreements. Label us all, call us all racists, white nationalists, dumbass hillbillies, traitors, lowlifes, insurrectionists, not worthy to even listen to......Jesus, what the hell is wrong....get a grip, will ya?

 

[MamboDervish]

It isn't like they did not bring evidence, just not enough for court.

OK. Then why support a solution to a problem that doesn't even have enough evidence for court?

 

[Ikari]

To be fair,
Pretty sure the Dems feel the same way.

I'm still willing to listen to reasonable Republicans who aren't off chasing the Crumple Horned Snorkack. Half the country has a different opinion on what's best for us. Sometimes they have a good point. No poll I could find has been done on this in well over three months. None since the Yapper in Chief was retired to Mar a Lago. I hope many have accepted that T**** lost. I'm surrounded by conservatives and they've all got a mask, are forming long lines for shots.

I get it you're frustrated, but you can't dismiss half the country. They've got something to say. It seems we need to keep sifting out the chaff and listening. Not necessarily agreeing, but at least listening. Not all conservatives are Q nuts.

I agree with Phoenix that we have to keep shutting out the fruit loops, absolutely. It's NOT all of them, though.

Yeah, well if they haven't gone off the deep end, that's one thing. But the moment I hear one of them say "the election was stolen", I stop talking to them or caring what they say since they are very clearly ****ing insane. It's like trying to discuss orbital mechanics with a flat-earther. Nutters gonna nut and there's nothing you can do about it.

 

[mrjurrs]

YEs yes, they’re approximately 1/3 of the country and all that, I’m not arguing from an EC perspective, from a rational-is-this-salvagable-perspective. Because coming to a conclusion on the latter will help with the former.

Here’s the gist:



This is a base taht no longer cares about sharing our reality, let alone the country. The post-2020 election has been one giant wounded yelp every day from Trump voters that they wuz robbed, and as such everything is illegitimate. They applauded the insurrection, are currently obsessed with phony audits that they insist must stand as the final word on the election (unless it doesn’t give them what they want, which wont’ matter cause they’ll insist it did anyway).

So, if you have 74m people who refuse to recognize that the other 2/3rds have agency, desires, wants, and a say in the country, what then? They are pushing voter suppression laws left and right, and keep promising us Jan 6 was a shot across the bow.

Does Republican voter opinions on things matter anymore? How do you argue with folks that don’t care about proving anything or having it disproved because at the heart of their belief system is that their wants are the only legitimate priority for the country, and everything else is the result of…whatever this weeks’ gigantic conpsiracy issue is. We spent a year fighting over safety protocals to protect citizens from a deadly pandemic, the major resistence from the right was due to deciding covid was just another lefty “cause” that they wanted to disprove. It cost us 600k American lives. And they*still* won’t own up to being wrong about everything because it’s not about being right or wrong, it’s about power.

Dunno how you keep a union if folks like this play a major role in shaping its future. There is no good faith. There is no desire to “meet in the middle”. And I don’t know why I need to “meet in the middle” on things like deadly pandemics.

imo, the R Party is not only against the Democrat Party, they are against democracy.

 

[Ikari]

imo, the R Party is not only against the Democrat Party, they are against democracy.

At the very least, some significant fraction of them are. Anyone who spouts the "election was stolen" lie clearly hates democracy.

 

[Jay59]

OK. Then why support a solution to a problem that doesn't even have enough evidence for court?

That would be nice, but a thorough investigation would be the place to start.

The place you don't go is saying there was no problem to investigate. That is called a coverup.

imo, the R Party is not only against the Democrat Party, they are against democracy.

I usually reserve that accusation for those who want one party to go away.

It's also worth noting that Republicans are not trying to defund law enforcement.

At the very least, some significant fraction of them are. Anyone who spouts the "election was stolen" lie clearly hates democracy.

Either that or they don't like the elected government ignoring their right to petition for redress of grievances.

 

[Court Jester]

YEs yes, they’re [Republicans] approximately 1/3 of the country and all that...

And yet 50% of the Senate are Republicans; there are 212 Republicans in the house compared to 218 Democrats (currently 5 vacancies)...so pretty close and looking to be closer come the next mid terms; there are 27 Republican governors compared to 23 Democrat governors; Republicans control 54.27% of all of the state legislative bodies.... and so now tell me again why you believe that it no longer matters what Republicans think anymore?

 

[Ikari]

Either that or they don't like the elected government ignoring their right to petition for redress of grievances.

They had that right, there were literally dozens upon dozens of lawsuits and all hand recounts and audits demonstrated that the counts were correct. They had their chance, it went no where, and then they committed the 1/6 Sedition.

The right to redress government doesn't mean that every nutter conspiracy must be found correct, particularly when there's no evidence for it.

 

[mrjurrs]

That would be nice, but a thorough investigation would be the place to start.

The place you don't go is saying there was no problem to investigate. That is called a coverup.


I usually reserve that accusation for those who want one party to go away.

It's also worth noting that Republicans are not trying to defund law enforcement.


Either that or they don't like the elected government ignoring their right to petition for redress of grievances.

The R Party just wants the voters of one party to go away. Defund law enforcement? So what? R's want to defund poor people.

 

[Felis Leo]

Wow.

How do you use the projectors so much without burning them out? If I ever need one, I'll know which model to get.

2022 will be a wake up call.

If I may, Jay59: Do you believe that Joe Biden won the 2020 election legitimately or illegitimately?

The reason I ask is because if you believe he won it fair and square, what policy decisions do you think will lead Democrats to lose seats in the house and/or what platform will attract voters to the Republican cause to gain seats?

And if you believe he won the election illegitimately, what makes you think that the process will be untainted this time and allow Republicans to win seats?

 

[AGENT J]

YEs yes, they’re approximately 1/3 of the country and all that, I’m not arguing from an EC perspective, from a rational-is-this-salvagable-perspective. Because coming to a conclusion on the latter will help with the former.

Here’s the gist:



This is a base taht no longer cares about sharing our reality, let alone the country. The post-2020 election has been one giant wounded yelp every day from Trump voters that they wuz robbed, and as such everything is illegitimate. They applauded the insurrection, are currently obsessed with phony audits that they insist must stand as the final word on the election (unless it doesn’t give them what they want, which wont’ matter cause they’ll insist it did anyway).

So, if you have 74m people who refuse to recognize that the other 2/3rds have agency, desires, wants, and a say in the country, what then? They are pushing voter suppression laws left and right, and keep promising us Jan 6 was a shot across the bow.

Does Republican voter opinions on things matter anymore? How do you argue with folks that don’t care about proving anything or having it disproved because at the heart of their belief system is that their wants are the only legitimate priority for the country, and everything else is the result of…whatever this weeks’ gigantic conpsiracy issue is. We spent a year fighting over safety protocals to protect citizens from a deadly pandemic, the major resistence from the right was due to deciding covid was just another lefty “cause” that they wanted to disprove. It cost us 600k American lives. And they*still* won’t own up to being wrong about everything because it’s not about being right or wrong, it’s about power.

Dunno how you keep a union if folks like this play a major role in shaping its future. There is no good faith. There is no desire to “meet in the middle”. And I don’t know why I need to “meet in the middle” on things like deadly pandemics.

I have trouble believing that number of 70%
I know tons of republicans and I don't know any "today" that think the election was stolen. It takes a special type of retarded to believe in that QAnon nutter nonsense lol
Somehow I doubt that its me and or the Pittsburgh area that just happens to have all the normal republicans though lol
Even here on line in the world on the internet . . how many do we have? 3? 4? people that try to spread or hold on to the lie that the election was stolen?

If that number is true where are they . . .

ANd if that number IS true . . then it does impact my answer. anybody that is a StopTheStealTard is an imbecile and NOTHING they say matters. LMAO
We should listen to everybody though, and all normal people matter regardless of their "side" if they have one.

 

[MaryP]

It's not the same thing at all.

Democrats are not just upper-case-D Democrats but lower-case-D democrats. As disgusted as we are at the behavior of right-wing extremists, we believe in the whole Constitution, Article I to Amendment 27, and that includes the right of citizens of the United States to vote.

Republicans have morphed into something else entirely. Now, when this party doesn't get their way, they pass voter suppression laws, and their base storms the Capitol. They do not hate the results of the latest democratic election: They hate democracy itself.

Both sides are NOT the same.

No. They both believe theirs is the only legitimate priority for the country. I wasn't saying they are exactly the same.

 

[MamboDervish]

That would be nice, but a thorough investigation would be the place to start.

The place you don't go is saying there was no problem to investigate. That is called a coverup.

No. After well supervised bipartisan counts, recounts, state certifications and federal ratification, and absent any evidence of election irregularities or malfeasance that would have altered the results, then any partisan "investigation" is just a dog and pony show pandering to conspiratorial fringe elements. Not to mention a waste of time and public resources. It amounts to a solution in search of a problem that doesn't exist. A costly and desperate fishing expedition.

 

[MaryP]

A house divided against itself cannot stand.

We're splintering into a million pieces.

 

[holbritter]

There needs to be more moderates.

 

[calamity]

YEs yes, they’re approximately 1/3 of the country and all that, I’m not arguing from an EC perspective, from a rational-is-this-salvagable-perspective. Because coming to a conclusion on the latter will help with the former.

Here’s the gist:



This is a base taht no longer cares about sharing our reality, let alone the country. The post-2020 election has been one giant wounded yelp every day from Trump voters that they wuz robbed, and as such everything is illegitimate. They applauded the insurrection, are currently obsessed with phony audits that they insist must stand as the final word on the election (unless it doesn’t give them what they want, which wont’ matter cause they’ll insist it did anyway).

So, if you have 74m people who refuse to recognize that the other 2/3rds have agency, desires, wants, and a say in the country, what then? They are pushing voter suppression laws left and right, and keep promising us Jan 6 was a shot across the bow.

Does Republican voter opinions on things matter anymore? How do you argue with folks that don’t care about proving anything or having it disproved because at the heart of their belief system is that their wants are the only legitimate priority for the country, and everything else is the result of…whatever this weeks’ gigantic conpsiracy issue is. We spent a year fighting over safety protocals to protect citizens from a deadly pandemic, the major resistence from the right was due to deciding covid was just another lefty “cause” that they wanted to disprove. It cost us 600k American lives. And they*still* won’t own up to being wrong about everything because it’s not about being right or wrong, it’s about power.

Dunno how you keep a union if folks like this play a major role in shaping its future. There is no good faith. There is no desire to “meet in the middle”. And I don’t know why I need to “meet in the middle” on things like deadly pandemics.

Few people have been discredited as thoroughly as the GOP.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

There needs to be more moderates.

There are, they’re called Democrats.

 

[Aunt Antifa]

I have trouble believing that number of 70%
I know tons of republicans and I don't know any "today" that think the election was stolen. It takes a special type of retarded to believe in that QAnon nutter nonsense lol
Somehow I doubt that its me and or the Pittsburgh area that just happens to have all the normal republicans though lol
Even here on line in the world on the internet . . how many do we have? 3? 4? people that try to spread or hold on to the lie that the election was stolen?

If that number is true where are they . . .

ANd if that number IS true . . then it does impact my answer. anybody that is a StopTheStealTard is an imbecile and NOTHING they say matters. LMAO
We should listen to everybody though, and all normal people matter regardless of their "side" if they have one.

I don’t have any trouble believing that number at all. They don’t care that it’s not true. It’s just their politics now.