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Does 'Black culture' currently exist in the US?[W:143]
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Re: Does 'Black culture' currently exist in the US?
I don't really see it. There may be a sub 'thug' culture that some here may mistake as black culture but that's not really a black thing alone.
I don't really see it. There may be a sub 'thug' culture that some here may mistake as black culture but that's not really a black thing alone.
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Re: Does 'Black culture' currently exist in the US?
I don't know.
Does dialect, cuisine, ethno-centric music and art, etc. constitute a culture?
I don't know.
Does dialect, cuisine, ethno-centric music and art, etc. constitute a culture?
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Re: Does 'Black culture' currently exist in the US?
Yes.
In answer to the OP's question, yes, of course there is a "black culture" in the United States. It might not be totally homogeneous or mutually exclusive per se, but trying to deny the existence of culturally unique attitudes, art forms, lingo, styles of dress, and group identities within majority black communities is simply idiotic and counter-factual.
Yes.
In answer to the OP's question, yes, of course there is a "black culture" in the United States. It might not be totally homogeneous or mutually exclusive per se, but trying to deny the existence of culturally unique attitudes, art forms, lingo, styles of dress, and group identities within majority black communities is simply idiotic and counter-factual.
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Well then, I guess we have our answer!
I think that people need to understand that any ethnic based "culture" covers a whole lot of ground and that there are probably going to be several crossover subcultures under that broad umbrella. For example, I grew up as part of the Italian culture. I was not significantly involved with organized crime that is often associated with Italian culture but, admittedly, there was a certain tolerance of that activity within my culture.
Well then, I guess we have our answer!
I think that people need to understand that any ethnic based "culture" covers a whole lot of ground and that there are probably going to be several crossover subcultures under that broad umbrella. For example, I grew up as part of the Italian culture. I was not significantly involved with organized crime that is often associated with Italian culture but, admittedly, there was a certain tolerance of that activity within my culture.
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Re: Does 'Black culture' currently exist in the US?
Do you also believe there exists a 'White culture' in the US today? What would you say are the differences?
Do you also believe there exists a 'White culture' in the US today? What would you say are the differences?
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Re: Does 'Black culture' currently exist in the US?
EG, why is it called the Harlem shake? 'Cause it originated in Harlem in the 80s.
Sure. The popularization of certain styles of food, music, slang, dance, etc.?
EG, why is it called the Harlem shake? 'Cause it originated in Harlem in the 80s.
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Re: Does 'Black culture' currently exist in the US?
Ja klar of course, but it's the dominate, i.e. majority culture in America. You have to take a large step back to see the edges of it.
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So is the achy breaky heart line dance a white culture thing?
btw, I did the Spanish version last week and my legs were sore for a week. Is that supposed to be part of Hispanic culture now? :lol:
So is the achy breaky heart line dance a white culture thing?
btw, I did the Spanish version last week and my legs were sore for a week. Is that supposed to be part of Hispanic culture now? :lol:
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Re: Does 'Black culture' currently exist in the US?
"White culture" doesn't exist as such but "Italian culture" or "German culture" or "Polish culture", etc. definitely does exist...as does "trailer park culture".
"White culture" doesn't exist as such but "Italian culture" or "German culture" or "Polish culture", etc. definitely does exist...as does "trailer park culture".
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I'm not sure that "Achy Breaky Heart" and "culture" really belong in the same sentence:lamo
I'm not sure that "Achy Breaky Heart" and "culture" really belong in the same sentence:lamo
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Re: Does 'Black culture' currently exist in the US?
Then why not "thug culture", "rap culture" or "gangster culture" instead of "Black culture". Why do all black people get labelled and not all white people?
Then why not "thug culture", "rap culture" or "gangster culture" instead of "Black culture". Why do all black people get labelled and not all white people?
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There is a "majority" culture in the United States, which is overwhelmingly made up of European influences, yes. However, it is divided between several different sub-cultures (rural vs urban vs suburban, conservative vs liberal, upper vs middle vs lower class, northern vs southern vs midwestern vs western, various ethnic influences, etca, etca).
As far as points of difference are concerned, there are many. One of the most obvious relates to art, music, and media.
When I was assigned to a Reserve unit here in Charleston which was 80% black, for instance, there was very little common ground in this regard. They'd never heard most of our music, and we'd never heard most of theirs.
A great many of the African Americans in the unit were surprisingly ignorant of Hollywood as well. Most had never even seen (nor heard of) the movie Ghostbusters, for instance. If they had, it was usually something they had been introduced to it by white friends in the Army.
Beyond which, there are a great many social and political differences as well. Blacks tend to be more religious on average than whites, but vote overwhelmingly liberal, and shun marriage.
There is a "majority" culture in the United States, which is overwhelmingly made up of European influences, yes. However, it is divided between several different sub-cultures (rural vs urban vs suburban, conservative vs liberal, upper vs middle vs lower class, northern vs southern vs midwestern vs western, various ethnic influences, etca, etca).
As far as points of difference are concerned, there are many. One of the most obvious relates to art, music, and media.
When I was assigned to a Reserve unit here in Charleston which was 80% black, for instance, there was very little common ground in this regard. They'd never heard most of our music, and we'd never heard most of theirs.
A great many of the African Americans in the unit were surprisingly ignorant of Hollywood as well. Most had never even seen (nor heard of) the movie Ghostbusters, for instance. If they had, it was usually something they had been introduced to it by white friends in the Army.
Beyond which, there are a great many social and political differences as well. Blacks tend to be more religious on average than whites, but vote overwhelmingly liberal, and shun marriage.
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:mrgreen: Yes but it's a dance done by predominately one race.......so if the harlem shake is part of black culture shouldn't line dancing be part of white culture? (maybe not the best choice of songs to represent that)
:mrgreen: Yes but it's a dance done by predominately one race.......so if the harlem shake is part of black culture shouldn't line dancing be part of white culture? (maybe not the best choice of songs to represent that)
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Well, to be fair, I'd say that it does, on a de facto basis at least, simply due to the "melting pot" effect.
My mother's family was more or less straight WASP. My father's was Irish-Italian Catholic.
We don't really fit either stereotype. We're just sort of "white bread" Middle Class. :shrug:
I would agree that many subcultures exist, however.
Well, to be fair, I'd say that it does, on a de facto basis at least, simply due to the "melting pot" effect.
My mother's family was more or less straight WASP. My father's was Irish-Italian Catholic.
We don't really fit either stereotype. We're just sort of "white bread" Middle Class. :shrug:
I would agree that many subcultures exist, however.
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So there's a "Black culture" but not a "White culture"?
So there's a "Black culture" but not a "White culture"?
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Both exist, in the sense that whites tend to have more in common with other whites, on average, than they do blacks, and the same is true for the black community.
However, a great many sub-cultures exist in both groups.
Both exist, in the sense that whites tend to have more in common with other whites, on average, than they do blacks, and the same is true for the black community.
However, a great many sub-cultures exist in both groups.
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Those things you mentioned are part of black culture just like "mob culture" is part of Italian culture. There is crossover too. For example, there are a whole lot of white kids who identify with "thug culture" but certainly aren't part of "black culture".
Those things you mentioned are part of black culture just like "mob culture" is part of Italian culture. There is crossover too. For example, there are a whole lot of white kids who identify with "thug culture" but certainly aren't part of "black culture".
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So now you say 'White culture' does exist?
So now you say 'White culture' does exist?
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Eminem, for example, is a part of White culture and not Black culture?
Eminem, for example, is a part of White culture and not Black culture?
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I think there is one overhead culture known as "US Culture" which is predominantly Western.
Under that there is "subsets of cultures": Such as Italian, German, etc, Black Culture, Indian Culture, Asian Culture, etc.
I think there is one overhead culture known as "US Culture" which is predominantly Western.
Under that there is "subsets of cultures": Such as Italian, German, etc, Black Culture, Indian Culture, Asian Culture, etc.
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Re: Does 'Black culture' currently exist in the US?
White culture and majority culture are, for all intents and purposes, the same thing, for the simple reason that whites are the majority ethnic group in this country.
He is a white man who has adopted the trappings of a certain subset of black culture.
Where is this "German culture," and what would you make of people like myself?
I'm Irish, Italian, French, Norwegian, German, and Cherokee.
Which culture would I fall under?
Very few American whites are "pureblooded."
White culture and majority culture are, for all intents and purposes, the same thing, for the simple reason that whites are the majority ethnic group in this country.
He is a white man who has adopted the trappings of a certain subset of black culture.
Where is this "German culture," and what would you make of people like myself?
I'm Irish, Italian, French, Norwegian, German, and Cherokee.
Which culture would I fall under?
Very few American whites are "pureblooded."
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