Does anyone on this message board still think that the election was stolen, reall?

[Noodlegawd]

I just saw a poll of Iowa GOP voters and it said that 51% believe the 2020 election was stolen. Now Trump has led this fight and pointed to the 5 or 6 swing states. In all of those states, the GOP controls the states and there have been multiple recounts and very little "fraud" has been found and yet 51% of the GOP voters in Iowa still believe in a stolen election. I suspect that if God came down and told them it was an honest election they still would not believe. So, are there any of you on this message board that still believe in a stolen election?

Probably one or two. I wonder how many still think the 2016 election was stolen. Probably more than the former.

 

[LouC]

According to @Mycroft, there's no way MMM could have legitimately lost in 2020 nor should he in 2024...IMO, he must believe that MMM is sent by God to rule America.

Except...God (could have &) didnt.

GOD didn't send MMM.

On my regular monthly Tuesday coffee date, with Satan, back on June 23, 2015, he told me that it was him who had really given the final push of MMM down that golden escalator in New York.

So there is that.

 

[LouC]

Probably one or two. I wonder how many still think the 2016 election was stolen. Probably more than the former.

Weak, very weak, but entertaining.

 

[Lursa]

Probably one or two. I wonder how many still think the 2016 election was stolen. Probably more than the former.

I never did. "Influence" is not 'stealing.' There was no significant fraud. And even so, if Dems had stepped up and come out and voted, she'd have won. But people thought it was a done deal and stayed home. It's our own fault.

And he still lost the popular vote so whatever 'influence' there was, it wouldnt have been enough. We shot ourselves in the foot.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

@SNOWFLAKE

You never read my post above on the Cottingley Fairies, did you?

I no longer bother to offer citation here because it pointless but I was hoping sometimes someone would enjoy a better understanding if things.

Peace

Oh geeze, and they call ME a Snowflake

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Probably one or two. I wonder how many still think the 2016 election was stolen. Probably more than the former.

What about 'whataboutism'?

If everyone is guilty of something, is no one guilty of anything?

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[Noodlegawd]

I never did. "Influence" is not 'stealing.' There was no significant fraud. And even so, if Dems had stepped up and come out and voted, she'd have won. But people thought it was a done deal and stayed home. It's our own fault.

Failing to motivate people to vote for you is one of the main ways of losing an election.

And he still lost the popular vote so whatever 'influence' there was, it wouldnt have been enough. We shot ourselves in the foot.

The popular vote is irrelevant. Candidates win or lose the elections they campaign for, not imaginary ones.

 

[Noodlegawd]

What about 'whataboutism'?

If everyone is guilty of something, is no one guilty of anything?

www.merriam-webster.com

Whataboutism: Behind the Deflecting Tactic in Arguments | FlaglerLive

Whataboutism is an argumentative tactic where a person or group responds to an accusation or difficult question by deflection. Instead of addressing the point made, they counter it with “but what about X?”

flaglerlive.com

Oh look, another genius who thinks that pointing out hypocrisy is "whataboutism." Where have I seen that before?

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Oh look, another genius who thinks that pointing out hypocrisy is "whataboutism." Where have I seen that before?

Well, anyone with an ounce of integrity realizes there is a HUGE difference between 2016 and 2020, unless there was a storming of the Capitol in 2016 as well. Still a whataboutism. A common tactic when someone wants to change the conversation.

 

[Noodlegawd]

Well, anyone with an ounce of integrity realizes there is a HUGE difference between 2016 and 2020, unless there was a storming of the Capitol in 2016 as well. Still a whataboutism. A common tactic when someone wants to change the conversation.

Speaking of changing the conversation. The topic of the thread isn't the storming of the Capitol. The topic is who on this forum believes the election was stolen. There isn't a "HUGE difference" in the amount of evidence for claims that either of the two elections were stolen. There's no real evidence for either.

 

[Bullseye]

I just saw a poll of Iowa GOP voters and it said that 51% believe the 2020 election was stolen. Now Trump has led this fight and pointed to the 5 or 6 swing states. In all of those states, the GOP controls the states and there have been multiple recounts and very little "fraud" has been found and yet 51% of the GOP voters in Iowa still believe in a stolen election. I suspect that if God came down and told them it was an honest election they still would not believe. So, are there any of you on this message board that still believe in a stolen election?

Let me offer a thousand words on that:

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Speaking of changing the conversation. The topic of the thread isn't the storming of the Capitol. The topic is who on this forum believes the election was stolen. There isn't a "HUGE difference" in the amount of evidence for claims that either of the two elections were stolen. There's no real evidence for either.

The mindless minions stormed the Capitol BECAUSE they believed the election in 2020 was stolen. Sheesh.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Let me offer a thousand words on that:

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Feel better now?

 

[Lursa]

Failing to motivate people to vote for you is one of the main ways of losing an election.

I dont disagree. Pretty much what I wrote.

The popular vote is irrelevant. Candidates win or lose the elections they campaign for, not imaginary ones.

To the final outcome? Yes. To the points I made, no. In actual numbers, that difference has a meaning, even if it didnt count towards the outcome.

 

[Bullseye]

I just saw a poll of Iowa GOP voters and it said that 51% believe the 2020 election was stolen. Now Trump has led this fight and pointed to the 5 or 6 swing states. In all of those states, the GOP controls the states and there have been multiple recounts and very little "fraud" has been found and yet 51% of the GOP voters in Iowa still believe in a stolen election. I suspect that if God came down and told them it was an honest election they still would not believe. So, are there any of you on this message board that still believe in a stolen election?

Does any non-Democrat on this board still care?

 

[Noodlegawd]

To the final outcome? Yes. To the points I made, no. In actual numbers, that difference has a meaning, even if it didnt count towards the outcome.

No, it doesn't really have meaning, for the reasons I stated.

 

[Lursa]

No, it doesn't really have meaning, for the reasons I stated.

Yes it does...in terms of actual voter turnout.

 

[IQ57]

Yes, because it was.

There’s proof.

Unverified ballots = 81 million votes for “The Big Guy”

 

[TheParser]

"President Trump refused to play the game."

"The game"? As in the peaceful transfer of power overseen by every other president before him? That "game"?

The game of pretending to accept an election if one honestly believes (as President Trump did) that the results were inaccurate. Vice President Nixon in 1960 did and then went on to win in 1968. Some people probably feel that if President Trump had done the same, he would be a shoo-in for 2024. But Donald J. Trump is Donald J. Trump, and now he is paying the price -- to the delight of the Dems.

 

[Michael Cole]

The game of pretending to accept an election if one honestly believes

The game of pretending if one honestly believes?

You see, this is the problem. Trump and his...uh...supporters make no sense. It's why people call it a cult.

(as President Trump did) that the results were inaccurate. Vice President Nixon in 1960 did and then went on to win in 1968. Some people probably feel that if President Trump had done the same, he would be a shoo-in for 2024. But Donald J. Trump is Donald J. Trump, and now he is paying the price -- to the delight of the Dems.

It's not a game, regardless of how hard you wish and wish and wish it were.

Crazy. Child. Trump.

 

[The AntiDonald]

Probably one or two. I wonder how many still think the 2016 election was stolen. Probably more than the former.

I never believed the 2016 election was stolen. We do however have evidence that it was manipulated by outside sources.

We had Comey with the last-minute memo to congress, also the Benghazi hearings designed for the sole purpose of hurting HRCs poll numbers.

And finally, we had massive Russian interference. Stolen emails and comms released strategically to hurt HRC.

None of this is voter fraud. Trump actually got the most electoral votes. Lost the popular by almost 3 million. There is a huge difference between what Trump and his sycophants are claiming happened in 2020. The government was able to prove what happened in 2016. No one has ever been able to prove any fraud in 2020.

 

[HenryChinaski]

Does anyone on this message board still think that the election was stolen, reall?​

Yes. People who have seen the mountains of evidence and won't allow themselves to be manipulated by the Trump haters.

The evidence that Mike Lindell is going to unleash on the world any day now.
BTW has Lindell paid the court ordered 5 million to the software engineer that proved his election conspiracy nonsense was bullshit?

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Some fraud was prevented, but the investigation into the perpetrators was buried and we don't know HOW MUCH fraud they got away with.
It's clear that the buried incident wasn't their only shot at election fraud. They had a big operation going on.

It's not at all "clear" that it was buried.

but the point remains
This is still NOT evidence of fraud affecting the 2020 Presidential election

 

[LouC]

I never did. "Influence" is not 'stealing.' There was no significant fraud. And even so, if Dems had stepped up and come out and voted, she'd have won. But people thought it was a done deal and stayed home. It's our own fault.

And he still lost the popular vote so whatever 'influence' there was, it wouldnt have been enough. We shot ourselves in the foot.

 

[Ambig]

Some people probably feel that if President Trump had done the same, he would be a shoo-in for 2024. But Donald J. Trump is Donald J. Trump, and now he is paying the price -- to the delight of the Dems.

And to the delight of all normal and patriotic Americans.