Well I do not trust Fox news or joeblow69. By nature I am a skeptic, so therefore I research for myself and do not just take peoples word for whatever it is that they are pimping.
Ya, and if Rodney king beating video was released today there would have been the blanket claim that the video was edited, that the video doesn't matter because the person that posted the video to the internet isn't verified, and a whole list of other excuses as to deny raw video presented as a form of evidence.
You can believe whatever you want I really dont care. Whatever you have to say is not going to change my outlook on life in general. But where I do care is when a group makes grave accusations about America with no basis to make such accusations. I think it is obvious that someone is attempting from multiple vantages to attack America, and the truthers are useful idiots in that strategy. But that strategy is aimed at foreign populations not at America itself.
Ya, the US government performs a gambit, and the people exposing the gambit for what it is are the people that are ill intentioned.
Really, contemplate on that position for a few.
Did you ever wonder why truthers do no file law suits? Its simple really, if truthers went to court they have nothing to bring forward. No judge would grant anything based on fantasies. Then their little game would be over. No more propaganda to feed to populations that are being trained to hate America. Did you ever wonder why conspiracy theorists do not concentrate of a cover up of bad reactions and ineptness on 9/11? Its because thats not the message that someone wants out there. Its like at the beginning when there was theories about aliens and those little spheres, the message was steered away from the wild theories towards specific theories. If you have payed any attention form the beginning you would have noticed Conspiracy theorists fighting over message control. Well actually they are still fighting but the people with money are winning that fight. And the winners blackflag the dissenters regularly.
There's also the matter of STANDING. Most people accepted settlements concerning 9-11, which means they are not allowed to sue, only a small number actually fought it out in court with more and less successes.
If I did not have any damages as a result of 9-11, well, I'm not really in a position to sue because of it either.
Right B'man ... provide detailed information about these changes to the "bridge of his nose" ... you are stating it as a matter of fact that his bridge has changed shape so ... show these images and why and where his bridge has changed ???
Look at the friggin pictures posted instead of your blanket reactions without even thinking.
But you're about as rational as the person who would LITERALLY say the sky is NOT blue if you thought it would help you make a point.
Should be real easy for you to prove since you are so determined and staunch in this ... won't it ???
I posted the pictures, just cause you lack the capacity to analyze a picture for yourself honestly, is not my prerogative to fix.
Or is is yet more likely that you are just seeing what you "want" to see here ... it is easy to read into something that which you will, than being able to prove it.
Come on B'man, I challenge you to show where there is such a noticable difference that proves it is not bin Laden ???
Come on, I know your visions probably failing you in your senility, but just look at those pictures closely... not that it matters, your only goal is to be a contrarian, no matter how ridiculous you make yourself sound, you just gotta deny any position that makes you uncomfortable.
And yet people far better qualified than you in interpreting this see no problem with that video ... I do not ignore video evidence, you just wrote that out because you thought it, but this video has been accepted amongst genuine experts as real ... it is just complete non-experts like you that have a problem with it.
Ya, and there were also "experts" that told us about the first bin laden "confession", that when independent experts looked at it came to the conclusion that he was not confessing at all, at most was CONDONING the attacks. They found that the white house translation was not only INACCURATE, but was DELIBERATELY MISLEADING!!!
That's when there was a SECOND tape that came out.
Bin Laden says he wasn't behind attacks - CNN
Then there was this Gem :
Bin Laden urges Europe to quit Afghanistan | Reuters
In 2007 :
Looks familiar?
You can make it as "easy" as you like, doesn't mean it will be right ... but this rationale is EXACTLY as that post I linked said ... the anti-intellectualism of YooToob.
No, of course, that's where you use that little tool known as your brain to discern the difference between information and entertainment.
If you can't make those types of distinctions, well, god bless you.
Wrong or false information is NOT made any more right by the ease of dissemenination, it doesn't change to being right because it is free to post and play !!!
And information that is easily accessible is not by default wrong.
A 10 minute home-made YooToob by some kid in his attic bedroom is simply NEVER going to be as deailed, as factual, as intellectual as a proper science paper ... quantity and ease of access will NEVER beat quality science papers !!!
That may be, but that may not be necessary to get the message across. And the visual medium is a much better form of conversation, especially when compared to clunky text where much of the meaning gets lost.
Those Loose Change teenagers STILL have people falling for the "hermetically sealed elevator" guff ... endlessly repeated in a circle jerk of dumb ...
"@sch3ffs
Elevator shafts were hermetically sealed above and beyond all code standards in order to resist fire. The computers were confirmed that the doors did in fact close shutting off the air and fire ........
SergeantPepper99 2 months ago"
Just because something is up on YooToob and is still talked about does NOT mean it is right ... using a medium with such open and unverified content as factual and the be-all is just beyond stupid B'man.
Hermetically sealed is not entirely innaccurate either.... I mean, in the strictest sense, no, but elevators are more or less sealed seperate from the rest of the structure.
You NEED more than YooToob as confirmation of what you say ... yes, there are eyewitness videos of when people were being interviewed during the event ... but taking them alone as sacred gospel is weak, you STILL need verification of those interviews, you still NEED to have followed up on them and seen whether or not that was just an impression during fear and panic when no-one really knew what was happening or whether with hindsight those people still think so.
It's funny how you selectively attribute that, it's only "fear and panic" when they don't describe what you would have wanted them to describe.
Oh, and there were over 180 eyewitnesses to explosions / explosives. Yes, some of them have recanted their positions, but certainly not all.
Have you EVER contacted the FDNY to see IF you are correct in your "interpretation" of what they said ???
Ya, so that you can get his description AFTER receiving the peer-pressure guiding his perception. Especially when the initial reactions were so vivid.
Not something you should just dismiss because it conflicts with the governments version of events.
Wrong ... textual written information is far superior to some 5 minute jagged video with a soundtrack, well done on showing how the remote control generation think.
But the very real difference between the news source clips you so despise is that they, at least, make attempt to correct erroneous information when they make it and will publish retractions when they do ... do you think your clowns at Loose Change will ever be intellectually honest enought to retract from their claims of pods and hermetic elevators ... you seem to not realise that due to the essentially non-chronological nature of something like YooToob, then it is far too easy for mistakes or non-factual claims to last for ever, endlessly recycled.
Now I know you are attempting to make it out that I am somehow niave and blind to how this world works B'man, but the simple reality is that even just as a grand-mother I have learnt all there is to know about human nature and how this world really truly is and it is, in fact, YOU whom is the one with the real simplicity and naivity of wisdom here.
Your still just a kid to me, with a kids understanding and a desperation to find meaning in the complexity and unfairness of life ... sorry lad, but conspiracy guff is NOT the path to enlightenment !!!
I was talking about raw footage, not the pieced together videos of that many people have compiled... it's naive and blind to dispute raw video when you're looking it straight on, especially through the simplistic and fallacious blanket ways that you use to dispute ALL videos.
But, you're much better at manipulating peoples words to try and squeeze out an argument... if you had any level of honestly rational discussion on these topics you would have come to realize that the government is not looking out for the best interest of the people, except as much as that interest serves to maintain their power.
It's hard to dispute a well crafted visually articulated argument detailing all the points. It's like they say, a picture is worth a thousand words, well, in many cases a video can be worth an entire novel.
You can't maintain your intellectual arrogance in that type of economy of ideas.