Do you think it is your civic duty to vote

[donhughesmusic]

Nope. You don't understand how self-rule works. If you don't believing in voting, you believe in dictatorship - it's that simple.

Yes I believe in self rule. I choose whether to vote for and who. No one else.

 

[multivita-man]

Yes I believe in self rule. I choose whether to vote for and who. No one else.

You have personal autonomy, yes, but not voting is a deliberate decision to not do your duty. It's like a decision to not mow your lawn and let the weeds grow in your front yard.

 

[donhughesmusic]

You have personal autonomy, yes, but not voting is a deliberate decision to not do your duty. It's like a decision to not mow your lawn and let the weeds grow in your front yard.

That is still my decision. Yes, there are consequences, but it is still my decision.

One thing forgotten in all of this. History is written by the winners. What do you get by voting for the losing candidate? Absolutely nothing. Your voice is thrown away with the trash.

 

[trouble13]

Do you think it is your civic duty to vote?

I used to until 2020.

Votes should be EARNED, just like respect. I refuse to vote for someone I do not support. Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting evil.

I think it is our responsibility to make an educated decision on each candidate and then express our opinion via our vote or our non-vote.

If I do not like any of the candidates on the ballot I like to write in my own. That at least sends a message to the parties of the type of person they should run if they are interested in earning my vote.

 

[Gateman_Wen]

My job isn't to fix a country. My first priority is the safety and well being of my family. I don't rely on the country to do that.

You need to look up the phrase "civic duty".

 

[donhughesmusic]

I think it is our responsibility to make an educated decision on each candidate and then express our opinion via our vote or our non-vote.

If I do not like any of the candidates on the ballot I like to write in my own. That at least sends a message to the parties of the type of person they should run if they are interested in earning my vote.

Do they really get the message? Do they see your message and think "I'm gonna pass something for the losing voters"? Of course not. What message is truly sent?

 

[trouble13]

Do they really get the message? Do they see your message and think "I'm gonna pass something for the losing voters"? Of course not. What message is truly sent?

Yeah it feels futile I admit that but at least I know inside that I am part of the solution not the problem. I can only control how I use my vote not everyone elses's or what they use my vote for. I do my part. It's up to you to do yours.

 

[Patriotic Voter]

Do you think it is your civic duty to vote?

I used to until 2020.

Votes should be EARNED, just like respect. I refuse to vote for someone I do not support. Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting evil.

Everyone knows that year Joe Biden was not the lesser of two evils. Republicans who claim he is a bad man obviously are lying.

 

[Juin]

I have no DUTY to vote.
I have a RIGHT to vote.

Whether or not I exercise that right is my choice.

Exactly

 

[Mongidig]

You all are a bunch of sheep perpetuating a corrupt system. I get voting for a specific topic. How vulnerably dumb do you have to be to believe the lies the person you are voting for tells you. Also I’m not a fan of the creeps on the left and the white supremacists on the right.

 

[MrNiceGuy]

Do you think it is your civic duty to vote?

I used to until 2020.

Votes should be EARNED, just like respect. I refuse to vote for someone I do not support. Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting evil.

Nonvoting is a form of voting.

"You can choose a ready guide
In some celestial voice
If you choose not to decide
You still have made a choice
You can choose from phantom fears
And kindness that can kill
I will choose a path that’s clear
I will choose free will." Neal Peartt

 

[donhughesmusic]

Nonvoting is a form of voting.

"You can choose a ready guide
In some celestial voice
If you choose not to decide
You still have made a choice
You can choose from phantom fears
And kindness that can kill
I will choose a path that’s clear
I will choose free will." Neal Peartt

Respect to anyone who knows their Rush.

 

[Scrabaholic]

Yes, but here it is difficult if you are disabled.

 

[multivita-man]

You all are a bunch of sheep perpetuating a corrupt system. I get voting for a specific topic. How vulnerably dumb do you have to be to believe the lies the person you are voting for tells you. Also I’m not a fan of the creeps on the left and the white supremacists on the right.

The creeps on the left and white supremacists are actually a product of poor voter engagement. Voting is the minimum necessary civic engagement in our political system. Voters should actually inform themselves. They should read about history, economics, foreign new, local news, national news. They should be curious. Self-rule isn't easy. Even harder when there's so much misinformation and noise, but it's better than the alternative.

 

[multivita-man]

Nonvoting is a form of voting.

It is - a poor one.

 

[forn]

Democracy is the unstated choice in this election. The R's are willing to take rights away from Americans.

You are aware that we on the right think the exact same thing about the Democrats?

 

[donhughesmusic]

It is - a poor one.

So were the choices we had in 2016 and 2020.

 

[multivita-man]

So were the choices we had in 2016 and 2020.

They were, but they were the product of voters' behaviors.

 

[donhughesmusic]

They were, but they were the product of voters' behaviors.

...and yet you argue for the virtues or voting?

 

[highroller]

Do you think it is your civic duty to vote?

I used to until 2020.

Votes should be EARNED, just like respect. I refuse to vote for someone I do not support. Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting evil.

That’s still a vote. There are other parties on the ballot your know

 

[choiceone]

You are aware that we on the right think the exact same thing about the Democrats?

What significant right are the Democrats trying to take away? You can shoot without an assault rifle.
You can drive even if you wear a seat belt. Nobody suggested that you wear a mask if you weren't going to interact seriously with others.

The only serious right Democrats ever threatened was keeping all of your own income/wealth without paying a small percentage of tax for the sake of the well-being of society. And the only people being threatened are usually extremely rich people who wouldn't even really feel it, yet it could make the difference between having a safe place to sleep and homelessness or survival and death to a fellow member of the society.

So comparing the parties on this issue is a no contest - the GOP seriously threatens the personal autonomy, personal bodily integrity, personal health, and even personal life of fifty percent of the people in the society.

 

[Bodi]

Do you think it is your civic duty to vote?

I used to until 2020.

Votes should be EARNED, just like respect. I refuse to vote for someone I do not support. Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting evil.

I voted but not for the past twenty years or so... even before then on lots of elections and issues... I think the vast majority of them are lying, greedy, corrupt and inept scumbags, for the most part. It is not about supporting them... it is about not having any respect for them in the first place.

 

[HK.227]

Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting evil.

Exactly. All you will accomplish in end is the lesser evil getting worse and worse over time.
If you want good politicians, you need to hold them accountable. The only way to really do that is by being ready to let them lose and keep losing until they get their act together and start fullfilling their duties.

Remember, the principle behind representative democracy is that by voting for someone, you are giving them your personal permission to act on your behalf, which also means you are morally responsible for all the crap they do while in office.

 

[multivita-man]

...and yet you argue for the virtues or voting?

It's not a virtue; it's a duty. Like serving on a jury, for example. If 12 jurors who would have been fair and objective jurors but came up with some made up excuse not to serve, who are then replaced by 12 biased jurors, that affects the outcome of a case, and lives.

If voters fail to participate in their own political system, not only through voting but by actively keeping up with the issues and understanding the issues that impact them, then they are giving permission for people with narrow agendas to have greater influence on their government. Don't complain if you don't like how they use that influence if you're not doing all you can to participate in the system.

In Australia, voting isn't just a duty; it's actually a legal requirement, for the reasons I've stated above.

 

[donhughesmusic]

It's not a virtue; it's a duty. Like serving on a jury, for example. If 12 jurors who would have been fair and objective jurors but came up with some made up excuse not to serve, who are then replaced by 12 biased jurors, that affects the outcome of a case, and lives.

If voters fail to participate in their own political system, not only through voting but by actively keeping up with the issues and understanding the issues that impact them, then they are giving permission for people with narrow agendas to have greater influence on their government. Don't complain if you don't like how they use that influence if you're not doing all you can to participate in the system.

In Australia, voting isn't just a duty; it's actually a legal requirement, for the reasons I've stated above.

See this post:

Remember, the principle behind representative democracy is that by voting for someone, you are giving them your personal permission to act on your behalf, which also means you are morally responsible for all the crap they do while in office.