foadi
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You guys sound like those brainwashed ChildSafe/ECPAT drones. Most working girls in the US are not trafficked. Although I fully support opening the border and bringing more in.
Substantial experience, of course.l wonder what kind of psychology makes you speak like that
Substantial experience, of course.
1. Most working girls are not trafficked in the US.
2. Most working girls who are "trafficked" do so willingly.
I voted yes, but under very specific circumstances. A girl out walking the street? Under the lamp on the corner? No.
It would be like any other controlled substance. Sold at specific, licensed places, registration of workers, etc. A VERY controlled environment. No house calls.
Yes, obviously. Even if you don't support the legal exchange of money for sex, I don't think anyone here can argue that allowing sex slavery to run wild is acceptable, which is essentially what an outright ban on prostitution does. Prostitution brothels should be legalized and strictly regulated, while pimping should be banned.[/QUOTE]
Yes, obviously. Even if you don't support the legal exchange of money for sex, I don't think anyone here can argue that allowing sex slavery to run wild is acceptable, which is essentially what an outright ban on prostitution does. Prostitution brothels should be legalized and strictly regulated[B], while pimping should be banned.[/[/B]QUOTE]
Yes, obviously. Even if you don't support the legal exchange of money for sex, I don't think anyone here can argue that allowing sex slavery to run wild is acceptable, which is essentially what an outright ban on prostitution does. Prostitution brothels should be legalized and strictly regulated, while pimping should be banned.
If pimping is banned, then wouldn't brothels, by extension, also be banned? The proprietor of a brothel is, in many ways, acting as a pimp. What about websites like backpage? They are profiting from prostitution, so would they be banned along with pimping?
Nothing wrong with pimping in my opinion. No reason to ban it.
So democratically elected pimps are okay in your view? Not sure I understand. Wouldn't it make more sense to just ban brothels completely and have everyone work as independent freelancers? Or would that get in the way of your "heavily regulated" fantasy?No, cooperative brothels would be legal in that situation.
So democratically elected pimps are okay in your view? Not sure I understand. Wouldn't it make more sense to just ban brothels completely and have everyone work as independent freelancers? Or would that get in the way of your "heavily regulated" fantasy?
So democratically elected pimps are okay in your view? Not sure I understand. Wouldn't it make more sense to just ban brothels completely and have everyone work as independent freelancers? Or would that get in the way of your "heavily regulated" fantasy?
l mean do you think it can be banned ?
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I think you're way off base with this. Banning pimping would greatly inhibit innovation in the creation of new types of P4P venues. You have to remember that the most important customer base are business travellers (including offshore workers and military contractors, basically anyone who works away from home) - and they aren't merely looking for sex, they are also looking to have a good time.As long as there is a demand for prostitution, it will exist. There is not a demand for prostitution in the specific business model of pimping, so if cooperative brothels satisfy the demand for prostitution, I don't see why a ban on pimping wouldn't be enforceable.
I think you're way off base with this. Banning pimping would greatly inhibit innovation in the creation of new types of P4P venues. You have to remember that the most important customer base are business travellers (including offshore workers and military contractors, basically anyone who works away from home) - and they aren't merely looking for sex, they are also looking to have a good time.
You mean... you're going to essentially make a small section of prostitution legal and keep the overwhelming majority of prostitution illegal. How will this work for the thousands of junky prostitutes in major cities? Do you believe they'll simply get off the drugs and start filing tax returns? What about all the underaged prostitutes in the US? They'll simply come out of the shadows and do it legally? These suggestions of "regulating it" aren't based on an understanding of prostitution in its current form. They're based on ideological musings of how things should be in the perfect world.
Are you suggesting that because we can't fix everything and help everybody that we shouldn't even try to fix some aspects and help some people into better situations?You mean... you're going to essentially make a small section of prostitution legal and keep the overwhelming majority of prostitution illegal. How will this work for the thousands of junky prostitutes in major cities? Do you believe they'll simply get off the drugs and start filing tax returns? What about all the underaged prostitutes in the US? They'll simply come out of the shadows and do it legally? These suggestions of "regulating it" aren't based on an understanding of prostitution in its current form. They're based on ideological musings of how things should be in the perfect world.
"Pimping" would/should be defined as preventing people from leaving a 'business relationship' for fear of significant retribution. In a legitimate legal business environment, the prostitute could leave at any time (or, at least at the expiration of a legal contract), and not fear retribution of any kind.If pimping is banned, then wouldn't brothels, by extension, also be banned? The proprietor of a brothel is, in many ways, acting as a pimp. What about websites like backpage? They are profiting from prostitution, so would they be banned along with pimping?
Nothing wrong with pimping in my opinion. No reason to ban it.
Ok, take lets use termas in Rio De Janeiro (like Centaurus or 4x4), or saunas in Macau (Sanado, 18, Rio, etc) as an example. Would it be possible to turn those sorts of venues into co-ops? Would require millions in investment, hundreds of employees, and a bunch of other stuff. Seems like co-op's would be relatively basic, small, and boring in comparison.There's no evidence to suggest that cooperative brothels wouldn't be able to properly entertain their customers.
Not when you change the definition of pimping. But I have no problem with mamasans/papasans/madames/whatever you want to call them, or business owners trying to make a profit in the sex industry."Pimping" would/should be defined as preventing people from leaving a 'business relationship' for fear of significant retribution. In a legitimate legal business environment, the prostitute could leave at any time (or, at least at the expiration of a legal contract), and not fear retribution of any kind.
You actually support pimping?
You will be filthy rich if it's legal.The biggest issue with that is how the meat was acquired. Usually it would involve severe criminality or public health risk. But if there is a legal and safe way to do it I'm not opposed to someone eating human meat.
Also, legalizing it cannot eliminate the black market. Regulation means higher cost. Poor men may resort to individual hookers.Prostitutes don't get involved in this stuff after they become prostitutes, that's how they get there. Human trafficking isn't something which happens to prostitutes after they start prostituting themselves. It's how they get there in the first place. That's not going to go away because prostitution is legalized. Legalizing it will simply put fewer traffickers in jail, it won't change the conditions under which they place women. These libertarian arguments really make it obvious that people don't know how most women enter prostitution or why.
Does it?Also, legalizing it cannot eliminate the black market. Regulation means higher cost. Poor men may resort to individual hookers.
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