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Do You Support The Death Penalty For Luigi Mangione?

Do You Support The Death Penalty For Luigi Mangione?

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InWalkedBud

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I don't support the death penalty.

If you support it "for" some people but not "for" others, your opinion is unprincipled.


Note: this is different than saying that someone in some grand moral or karmic sense "deserves" to have a thing(s) happen to them. This is about the government taking a person's life in a mechnized manner.
 
No
IMO - death penalty should only be for the most heinous crimes against another.
If he kidnapped the man, tortured him to death in front of his family - then yeah.
 
Oh look another spurious InWalkedBud poll. Are you related to Josie?
 
I challenge people who say never to anything, including death penalty.
There are monster among us. True monsters. They do not deserve to live rather comfortably in a prison.
I good example - a man burned a girlfriends small child in front of her to get her back for leaving him.
Set the child on fire.
You want him to play cards, find friends and be warm when it is cold, and never work a day in his life?
Really?
 
iamwhatiseem said:
I challenge people who say never to anything, including death penalty.
There are monster among us. True monsters. They do not deserve to live rather comfortably in a prison.
I good example - a man burned a girlfriends small child in front of her to get her back for leaving him.
Set the child on fire.
You want him to play cards, find friends and be warm when it is cold, and never work a day in his life?
Really?
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In solitary with no TV , no visitors etc....for life. It ls worse than death
 
It brings me to the man who shot and killed his son's murderer who tortured to death and sexually abused his young son.
You blame him?
 
Life in prison, no parole. Throw away the key.
 
iamwhatiseem said:
I challenge people who say never to anything, including death penalty.
There are monster among us. True monsters. They do not deserve to live rather comfortably in a prison.
I good example - a man burned a girlfriends small child in front of her to get her back for leaving him.
Set the child on fire.
You want him to play cards, find friends and be warm when it is cold, and never work a day in his life?
Really?
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Speaking only of Canada - we've got a few monsters locked up. Designated by the court as 'Dangerous Offenders' they'll never get out.

And the conditions they're held in are far from comfortable.

That works for me.
 
Callen said:
In solitary with no TV , no visitors etc....for life. It ls worse than death
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Nope, I have seen too many prison interviews with lifers.
One of the key attitudes is "life is not over in prison" a popular saying for lifers.
They can take classes, get jobs within the prison, make friends etc.
And why would torturing a person for the rest of his life (solitary for life) - be more humane than killing them?
 
Yes, assassinations like this deserve the death penalty.
 
iamwhatiseem said:
I challenge people who say never to anything, including death penalty.
There are monster among us. True monsters. They do not deserve to live rather comfortably in a prison.
I good example - a man burned a girlfriends small child in front of her to get her back for leaving him.
Set the child on fire.
You want him to play cards, find friends and be warm when it is cold, and never work a day in his life?
Really?
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My opposition to the death penalty isn't about people like him. It's about the unknown but greater than zero number of people who are not guilty who will receive an irreversible, permanent punishment, because even when the standard of proof in a criminal case is "beyond a reasonable doubt" there are still enough misses that it is a legitimate problem.
 
iamwhatiseem said:
Nope, I have seen too many prison interviews with lifers.
One of the key attitudes is "life is not over in prison" a popular saying for lifers.
They can take classes, get jobs within the prison, make friends etc.
And why would torturing a person for the rest of his life (solitary for life) - be more humane than killing them?
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It wouldn't be....which is my point
 
Anagram said:
My opposition to the death penalty isn't about people like him. It's about the unknown but greater than zero number of people who are not guilty who will receive an irreversible, permanent punishment, because even when the standard of proof in a criminal case is "beyond a reasonable doubt" there are still enough misses that it is a legitimate problem.
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That happens a lot less today. DNA is used in most murder cases and other forensics/technology.
But, this is also why I don't support the death penalty for "non-heinous" murders.
The most heinous murders are usually overwhelmingly obvious who did it.
But, I get what you are saying, and is a valid argument
 
Case in point for myself - when I was young, before I got married etc. - I was convinced I was against abortion 100% with only exception for rape/serious health risk to mother. That was it.
Then I had a daughter. As she began to reach puberty, it came to my mind more than once - "what if".
And I had to face that reality. It altered my opinion - SOME.

All I am saying, you can't really say "ever or never" unless you are the one who is the most affected.
 
iamwhatiseem said:
I challenge people who say never to anything, including death penalty.
There are monster among us. True monsters. They do not deserve to live rather comfortably in a prison.
I good example - a man burned a girlfriends small child in front of her to get her back for leaving him.
Set the child on fire.
You want him to play cards, find friends and be warm when it is cold, and never work a day in his life?
Really?
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It is actually more inhumane if you think about to lock someone away for the rest of their lives.
 
Death penalty is a relic of Medieval times. If punishment is the aim, why put the condemned to sleep. Torture them for a week or so, a la the Inquisition. Do it on TV to send a message to would-be criminals. I repeat that the best thoughts on this came from Lenny Bruce, who suggested that we spare the complaining about executions throughout the year and kill everyone on one night, say the evening of December 24, with the signal being when the giant Christmas tree lights are turned on in Rockefeller Center.
 
If there be a death penalty then yes...he should be subject to it.He has already demonstrated he is willing to kill and has no remorse and feels justified in his actions. Indicates he is a threat to do it again.

But a lifetime behind bars with his new buddies should be OK too.
 
InWalkedBud said:
Link: Federal prosecutors to seek death penalty for Luigi Mangione in UnitedHealthcare CEO’s killing

NEW YORK (AP) — U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi said Tuesday that she has directed prosecutors to seek the death penalty against Luigi Mangione in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, following through on the president’s campaign promise to vigorously pursue capital punishment...

Good.
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100%. It was calculated, cold-blooded murder and there’s no reasonable doubt.
 
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