Do You Support Senator Manchin's Voting Rights Compromise?

[bomberfox]

How a massive voter purge in Georgia affected the 2018 election

State officials claimed that people removed from the voter rolls for inactivity had likely died or moved away. But an APM Reports investigation found tens of thousands who hadn't — and still wanted to vote.

www.apmreports.org

"Last year, the Supreme Court upheld the practice on a narrow 5-4 vote just months before the 2018 midterm elections. That paved the way for officials in Georgia and at least nine other states, most led by Republicans, to continue with the purges, which typically happen in each odd year after a federal election. "

This is why you never allow candidates to be in charge of elections.

 

[highroller]

Ofcourse not. It's a state power, not a federal one.

Someone has not read the constitution apparently

 

[Mr Person]

I'm not disagreeing with you, but isn't a lot of the Republican base poor and rural? That's what I keep hearing about those "red states" anyway. Is that bunk? Are the GOP really stupid enough to think most poor people are Democrats?

Voter ID requirements rarely come alone. Recall WI, when it passed voter ID but then quickly moved to close and/or reduce hours of places you could get IDs in Dem-heavy areas, while beefing up hours in R-heavy ones?

That's the concern. They typically don't let the chips fall where they may. They do other stuff on the side that makes it harder for people they think more likely to be D voters to get the ID in the first place.



I don't think we'd ever have seen opposition to the concept of requiring people to identify themselves to vote if they were clean requirements, backed by real efforts to make sure anyone who wants one can get one. They're not. Instead we hear "psssh, like that's a problem. All you do is spend a couple hours at the DMV".

 

[bomberfox]

Not just black voters. They tried their caging scam on my wife and me again recently. They failed again, too. However, if the letters had been misdelivered, we would be off of the rolls. I check our registration status multiple times a year. Most voters probably don't, and they don't find out that they have been successfully removed from the rolls until they try to vote.

Thats why i did hundreds of phone banking calls lol.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Horseshit. If you love what state voting laws are being passed you both hate democracy and embrace authoritarianism. All one needs to do is look at your screen name to see where you're coming from.

What specific state voting laws do you have an issue with besides gerrymandering?

 

[Rawley]

My country was not founded in 1812. The constitution predates that by 20 years.

It was named after a signer of the Declaration of Independence. So not quite accurate to say it was inconceivable to the founders.

 

[mrjurrs]

I think it doesn't go far enough but if Stacey Abrams supports it I would too.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Horseshit. If you love what state voting laws are being passed you both hate democracy and embrace authoritarianism. All one needs to do is look at your screen name to see where you're coming from.

You are the one who seems to favor federalizing elections.

 

[Blue Dog]

I support Sen Manchins proposal. It is quite reasonable.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Someone has not read the constitution apparently

Its the state politicians that are tasked with redistricting. You are confused,

 

[iguanaman]

First, purging voter rolls is simply cancelling the local registrations of those who move to another state or pass away. What pray tell is wrong with that?
As for Jim Crow laws, the only party to ever pass such laws was the democrat party. It's just dumb that libruls are now declaring such things as voter ID bills as "Jim Crow" laws. Your side lost the ability to discuss politics rationally long ago.

Because this "purging" has been invariably inaccurate and many legal voters are removed from rolls without their knowledge.

 

[highroller]

Its the state politicians that are tasked with redistricting. You are confused,

Jeez…let me google that for you…

 

[mrjurrs]

First, purging voter rolls is simply cancelling the local registrations of those who move to another state or pass away. What pray tell is wrong with that?
As for Jim Crow laws, the only party to ever pass such laws was the democrat party. It's just dumb that libruls are now declaring such things as voter ID bills as "Jim Crow" laws. Your side lost the ability to discuss politics rationally long ago.

The first thing wrong is your description. Voter purging is removing name from the voting rolls. Nothing wrong with removing dead or moved people. You are naïve or uninformed if you think that is all there is to it. How about being removed if you haven't voted in a few elections? I'd love to see mandatory voting requirements but there are not any, states are purging these voters as well.
"Over the last decade, jurisdictions have substantially increased the rate at which they purge voter rolls. Brennan Center research found that between 2014 and 2016, states removed almost 16 million voters from the rolls — a 33 percent increase over the period between 2006 and 2008. The increase was highest in states with a history of voting discrimination."

Voter Purges

Voter purges are an often-flawed process of cleaning up voter rolls by deleting names from registration lists. The Brennan Center works to ensure that they are nondiscriminatory and do not disenfranchise eligible voters.

www.brennancenter.org

 

[MaryP]

Voter ID requirements rarely come alone. Recall WI, when it passed voter ID but then quickly moved to close and/or reduce hours of places you could get IDs in Dem-heavy areas, while beefing up hours in R-heavy ones?

That's the concern. They typically don't let the chips fall where they may. They do other stuff on the side that makes it harder for people they think more likely to be D voters to get the ID in the first place.



I don't think we'd ever have seen opposition to the concept of requiring people to identify themselves to vote if they were clean requirements, backed by real efforts to make sure anyone who wants one can get one. They're not. Instead we hear "psssh, like that's a problem. All you do is spend a couple hours at the DMV".

Let's not forget that to get an official photo ID, you need a birth certificate. It's $5 for an ID in Maine, but depending on where you were born, a birth certificate can cost up to $75, last time I checked.

 

[Helix]

i don't believe that ten Republicans are going to vote for anything that interferes with their own voter suppression.

called it.

McConnell shoots down Manchin's voting compromise

Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said on Thursday that Republicans will oppose a compromise election reform proposal put forward by Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.).

thehill.com

 

[swing_voter]

Stacey Abrams says she supports Manchin's voting rights compromise

The leading voting rights activist said Thursday that she supported the West Virginia senator’s compromise.

www.yahoo.com

Key provisions in Manchin’s proposal include mandating an early voting period and eliminating partisan gerrymandering in an attempt to get fair legislative maps, in addition to making Election Day a federal holiday and increasing access to absentee balloting. However, Manchin’s proposal also backed a couple of provisions typically opposed by Democrats, including increased voter ID requirements and allowing local election officials to purge voting rolls.

Whatever Manchin has to do to get reelected is fine with me.

He's a Democrat who barely won in a red state.


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[MAGAnificent]

The first thing wrong is your description. Voter purging is removing name from the voting rolls. Nothing wrong with removing dead or moved people. You are naïve or uninformed if you think that is all there is to it. How about being removed if you haven't voted in a few elections? I'd love to see mandatory voting requirements but there are not any, states are purging these voters as well.
"Over the last decade, jurisdictions have substantially increased the rate at which they purge voter rolls. Brennan Center research found that between 2014 and 2016, states removed almost 16 million voters from the rolls — a 33 percent increase over the period between 2006 and 2008. The increase was highest in states with a history of voting discrimination."

Voter Purges

Voter purges are an often-flawed process of cleaning up voter rolls by deleting names from registration lists. The Brennan Center works to ensure that they are nondiscriminatory and do not disenfranchise eligible voters.

www.brennancenter.org

I have no problem with purging the names of people who go past a certain time period without voting. After a given period of time, they can assume that you either moved or assumed room temperature. After all, most do not report to the local district that they have moved to a new district. I never did. I simply registered at the new district. Perhaps a system can be developed where the voter registrars in your new state report the move to your previous state.

 

[highroller]

called it.

McConnell shoots down Manchin's voting compromise

Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said on Thursday that Republicans will oppose a compromise election reform proposal put forward by Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.).

thehill.com

Yes Miss McConnell is the cancer on our nation

 

[MAGAnificent]

Because this "purging" has been invariably inaccurate and many legal voters are removed from rolls without their knowledge.

And if that happens you can still vote on a provisional ballot while that's being checked out and corrected.

 

[mrjurrs]

I have no problem with purging the names of people who go past a certain time period without voting. After a given period of time, they can assume that you either moved or assumed room temperature. After all, most do not report to the local district that they have moved to a new district. I never did. I simply registered at the new district. Perhaps a system can be developed where the voter registrars in your new state report the move to your previous state.

Are you required to vote? No. There is no reason to remove those voters.

 

[MAGAnificent]

Are you required to vote? No. There is no reason to remove those voters.

Not up to you.

 

[Helix]

Yes Miss McConnell is the cancer on our nation

he's the current version of Gingrich. i think of him more like a turtle if turtles were pieces of shit.

 

[mrjurrs]

Not up to you.

Brilliant, can we use the same idea for your posts?

 

[calamity]

Stacey Abrams says she supports Manchin's voting rights compromise

The leading voting rights activist said Thursday that she supported the West Virginia senator’s compromise.

www.yahoo.com

Key provisions in Manchin’s proposal include mandating an early voting period and eliminating partisan gerrymandering in an attempt to get fair legislative maps, in addition to making Election Day a federal holiday and increasing access to absentee balloting. However, Manchin’s proposal also backed a couple of provisions typically opposed by Democrats, including increased voter ID requirements and allowing local election officials to purge voting rolls.

Sure. Why not?

 

[Luce]

Is some of what you want better than nothing?

Not if it means the dems wind up buying in on the bad shit.