Do you support rounding up undocumented immigrants and putting them into militarized camps?

[BlueTex]

Maybe we could offer government funding to private institutions, but I promise you the church will be first in line and the Left won't like the idea of giving religious organizations tax money even when it benefits the public overall. Politics suck.

LOL... That "FEMA money for illegals" goes to mostly religious organizations...

 

[Teatime]

The 13th amendment refers to people incarcerated for cause, such a committing crimes...

Yes, the charge would be vagrancy. Forcibly taken off the street, forcibly put in a program, and you get to either 'get with the program' or go to big-boy prison for a while then try again.

 

[Teatime]

LOL... That "FEMA money for illegals" goes to mostly religious organizations...

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Catholic Charities leading the way once again.

 

[j brown's body]

It can't cost any more than what FEMA is already spending on housing, feeding, and failing to guard illegals in nice hotels around the country.

Those who are being housed are not undocumented immigrants. They are legally seeking asylum.

The focus of MAGA's deportation scheme are the 12 million undocumented immigrants who live out on their own and have to be rounded up and housed somewhere.

"A mass deportation of 1 million people per year could cost $88 billion annually, according to the nonpartisan American Immigration Council. It would require an unprecedented ramp-up of law enforcement staffing, detention capacity, immigration courtrooms and flight capacity."

Link

 

[j brown's body]

Yes, the charge would be vagrancy. Forcibly taken off the street, forcibly put in a program, and you get to either 'get with the program' or go to big-boy prison for a while then try again.

Takes one back to Jim Crow days.

 

[BirdinHand]

Takes one back to Jim Crow days.

White Christian Nationalism is the goal here.

 

[j brown's body]

It's a great idea, the trouble is paperwork as most of these people do not have the core 3 documents everyone should have: Birth certificate, SS card, and government ID. I would be happy to pay a tax to establish a new, or expand an existing outreach program.

Drugs are also part of the problem as many homeless would rather have their next fix instead of a safe place to sleep or a meal. That's where forcing them off the street comes in by arresting them for vagrancy and then using the 13th Amendment to put them into a work program.

It's a complex issue I'm not sure I have the whole answer to.

"Is your paperwork in order?"

I can recall such policy relegated to tyrannies, not free societies. My God how we have fallen.

 

[Teatime]

"Is your paperwork in order?"

I can recall such policy relegated to tyrannies, not free societies. My God how we have fallen.

Your paperwork needs to be in order anyway.

 

[Allan]

I've checked into Canadas immigration laws.

Theyre pretty exclusive.

I saw nothing in any of those statutes that looked to me like it was aimed at bringing in unskilled "entry level" type people.

Just the opposite, there are education requirements.

Those immigration requirements don't apply to asylum claimants.

 

[Noodlegawd]

Because they're...camps? Guarded by the military?

It's literally what they are.

I suppose you could call them any number of things, if you wanted, mixing and matching various words. Holding Facility? Detainment Area? Detention Campus? Security Blanket?

Oh, so what then? Members of our MILITARY often live in camps, guarded by the military. Literally. Do people who sneak into our country illegally deserve better temporary living conditions than the people who pledge their lives to defend it?

 

[Noodlegawd]

Canada would stop those busses at their border.

What do you do then?

I don't know, maybe take them somewhere on the border where they can sneak over easily?

 

[Allan]

I don't know, maybe take them somewhere on the border where they can sneak over easily?

No such place. The entire border is monitored.

In addition our two countries have an agreement to immediately return irregular border crossers.

We'd simply send them back over so keep those busses handy.

 

[MSgt]

Why do we need "militarized camps"?

Round them up and remove them. Simple.

Except not simple, considering that almost half of America's agricultural industry include illegal immigrant workers. Think all those business owners are only Democrat? Ask your Republican representatives why they constantly ham up the immigration issue while protecting their wealthy donors (and killing the recent security bill). Every time Trump and his fellow assholes hype up your feelings about immigration, they are merely mocking you for your vote.

Damn, Mycroft. Will you ever move yourself beyond the partisan nonsense that keeps you down? It's been years. And given that I am surely one of the smartest people you have ever encountered in your entire life, I just can't figure out your need to remain stubborn and still defying my intellectual greatness.

 

[Slartibartfast]

I don't know, maybe take them somewhere on the border where they can sneak over easily?

With that many people at once, it would obvious anywhere you took them.

 

[Noodlegawd]

Actually, it means being mean to those who hire illegals. Imprison those that do and fine those who do business with those that do.

But more to the point, if you really wanted to get rid of illegals in a more cost-effective manner, you would have supported the two bills during Trump's administration that would have created more courts/lawyers/judges to process illegals more quickly (in a matter of weeks instead of years), increase recruitment/pay/benefits/training/new equipment for agencies related to this and to create minimum security areas to temporarily house without the need for military camps to make sure no disappears into the nation. But noooooo....the GOP and Trump killed those bills. And there's the little fact that we had a foundation bill to also address some of these issues recently, but Daddy Trump needed a platform to run on and told his MAGA-mite bootlickers to kill the bill.

We could've had what you wanted years ago, but Trump wanted his stupid ****ing wall and a platform to run on...so, there's your culprit.

Or we could do what Trump was already doing, and what Biden suddenly decided to do a few months ago, and make it a lot harder for them to come here, either illegally or "legally."

 

[Noodlegawd]

No such place. The entire border is monitored.

In addition our two countries have an agreement to immediately return irregular border crossers.

We'd simply send them back over so keep those busses handy.

Wait, so you're saying that Canada, with barely a tenth of the population of the US and nearly twice the length of border to monitor than between the US and Mexico, somehow manages to do that whereas the US cannot? Fascinating.

 

[Noodlegawd]

With that many people at once, it would obvious anywhere you took them.

Who said we have to do it all at once? Then again, what would the Canadian border patrol do if we did that? Maybe ride around on horses and swing whips at them?

 

[Slartibartfast]

Wait, so you're saying that Canada, with barely a tenth of the population of the US and nearly twice the length of border to monitor than between the US and Mexico, somehow manages to do that whereas the US cannot? Fascinating.

Canada actually has a pretty big issue with illegal immigrants coming in from overseas.

 

[Luce]

• Americans are divided on whether they favor (47%) or oppose (50%) rounding up and deporting immigrants who are in the country illegally, even if it takes setting up encampments guarded by the U.S. military. Nearly eight in ten Republicans (79%) favor putting undocumented immigrants in encampments, compared with 47% of independents and 22% of Democrats.

SEND ZEM EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAST!

 

[Noodlegawd]

Canada actually has a pretty big issue with illegal immigrants coming in from overseas.

You guys should put your heads together and make up your minds before you respond to me.

 

[Allan]

Wait, so you're saying that Canada, with barely a tenth of the population of the US and nearly twice the length of border to monitor than between the US and Mexico, somehow manages to do that whereas the US cannot? Fascinating.

Easy when irregular crossings are rare.

 

[Slartibartfast]

Who said we have to do it all at once? Then again, what would the Canadian border patrol do if we did that? Maybe ride around on horses and swing whips at them?

Its still unlikely that this would work and even if it does, it would damage relations with them.

 

[Luce]

I'm just sitting here looking at the yes voters and reassessing some people.

 

[Noodlegawd]

Its still unlikely that this would work and even if it does, it would damage relations with them.

Look at you pretending I was serious.

 

[Allan]

Who said we have to do it all at once? Then again, what would the Canadian border patrol do if we did that? Maybe ride around on horses and swing whips at them?

Pick them up, immediately send them back - same as we do now.