No, I don't support OWS. Protests against Wall Street and the government deregulations that have led to near economic collapse, yes. But two months of camping in public parks, attacking film crews, vandalism, blocking public buildings and private businesses, blocking intersections and roadways, this affects real people, people who are part of this 99% are being hurt. They've got a jillion different messages... protesting Wall Street, protesting university tuitions, protesting the damned establishment, protesting capitalism, who the hell knows what this mixed-up bunch of modern day hippies are even saying?
As I said somewhere else, it's like Woodstock sneezed and a thousand droplets of snot infected the entire nation. I'm as mad as the next guy over what government being in bed with big business for the past decades has wrought, but I'm not willing to turn to tromping on the rights of others, breaking laws and advocating anarchy as a solution.
No, I don't support OWS. Protests against Wall Street and the government deregulations that have led to near economic collapse, yes. But two months of camping in public parks, attacking film crews, vandalism, blocking public buildings and private businesses, blocking intersections and roadways, this affects real people, people who are part of this 99% are being hurt. They've got a jillion different messages... protesting Wall Street, protesting university tuitions, protesting the damned establishment, protesting capitalism, who the hell knows what this mixed-up bunch of modern day hippies are even saying?
As I said somewhere else, it's like Woodstock sneezed and a thousand droplets of snot infected the entire nation. I'm as mad as the next guy over what government being in bed with big business for the past decades has wrought, but I'm not willing to turn to tromping on the rights of others, breaking laws and advocating anarchy as a solution.
But on the plus side, Conservatives will call OWS heroes or victims if they start killing the police and arming themselves.
Best thing to do with Hatuey is to ignore him. He'll go away...
5 dollar fees right? Please tell us more about OWS. I just want to hear about your knowledge of the movement itself and how it has rallied around these 5 dollar fees that are hurting so many people.
That's funny. Know what I'd like to hear? One intelligent post on this thread from Hatuey.
You get called on your statement and you don't even have the vagina to back it up with any substance. I'm still waiting. What are these 5 dollar fees that the OWS movement is about? Tell us all about them and how millions of people across the country have joined in demonstration against the tyranny they support. My ears are just burning to listen to you elaborate on your amazingly intelligent thoughts on the matter.
Know what I'd like to hear? One intelligent post on this thread from Hatuey.
5 dollar fees right? Please tell us more about OWS. I just want to hear about your vast knowledge of the movement itself and how it has rallied around these 5 dollar fees that are hurting so many people. C'mon MaggieD. This is your chance to play with the big boys instead of using hyperbole and hiding behind X Factor, as a matter of fact, the both of you, c'mon down. Tell us what OWS can do in order to effect change in a way you'll approve of.
Should they elect bat**** insane people like the Tea Parties have? Should OWS have their own Bachmans?
Should they listen to "lawful" orders to disperse by the same establishment that they're trying to change?
I'm just anxious to hear this. Tell us all about your watered down version of civil disobedience is.
Sit around, eat hot dogs, wave flags and call each other patriots?
Maybe you could enlighten myself as well as the rest of the forum on this.
I'm waiting.
Waaaaiting...
See what I mean what I call you a troll? What about the 5 dollar fees? The entire forum is watching you run and hide from your own statement. Come on Maggie. Don't be a *****, yes that pun was intended, and just come out with it, that one too. What 5 dollar fees is the OWS rallied against?
Well, first off they'd need a consistent "message" that I agreed with.
You just aren't going to quit until one or both of us are moderated, are you?
Run and hide? Hardly. If you don't know about the bank fee "victory claim" by OWS, then you don't read the paper.
Maybe you're too busy cleaning up the basement. Mama due home soon? Obnoxious little ****.
There. That oughta' do it.
In just a month, Christian’s Bank Transfer Day page on Facebook has picked up 35,711 “likes” and the event page shows nearly 75,000 “rsvps” for those who have closed bank accounts or plan to. She goes out of her way, there and in interviews, to stress that BTD and OWS aren’t connected, though she welcomes the Occupiers’ support. (Christian also says she hasn’t received any financial support for BTD and her links with credit unions are limited to her membership with Los Angeles Federal Credit Union and Coast Hills Credit Union.) Bank of America’s decision Tuesday not to charge customers $5 a month to use their debit cards doesn’t change her mission, Christian explained in an email interview
On a new Facebook page called Bank Transfer Day, Ms. Christian, while acknowledging Occupy Wall Street’s enthusiasm for her idea, said the movement did not inspire her nor did it help her organize the campaign.
Protestors involved in the Occupy Movement have certainly helped spread the word, though. For more than a week, they have been urging supporters on their hundreds of Facebook and Twitter accounts across the country to join the effort and to also attend protests scheduled on Saturday outside some banks.
Bank Transfer Day coincides with the Occupy Wall Street (OWS) movement, which began on Sept. 17 when protesters set up camp in a New York park, sparking demonstrations and so-called occupations globally. Christian says Bank Transfer Day was not inspired by OWS and does not endorse the protests.
LOL, 39%. Hardly a mandate, and I bet those surveyed was anything but a random sample.
See what I meant spark? It doesn't matter what OWS does because their message doesn't resonate with you. So in essence, even if they are right in their protesting, to you that matters little because you don't agree with the message to begin with. Your entire thread was nothing more than a boring attempt at going "oh my look at the OWS this is making them look bad" disguised as debate. Isn't it good to just come out with it? You had no intention of sparking real debate. Just point your silly finger and let fellow anti-OWS come in join on the fun.
Seriously, Cupcake, if it is the intention of OWS to unlawfully interfere with legally conducted business, how is that, in any way, a positive thing?
As far as me making the movement look bad, they're doing a might fine job of that on their own. Look at the results of this poll. This stunt will not endear them to most people.
You start a thread about a movement you have tried to make "look bad" no matter what they do and you accuse others of trolling? Lawls. Look sparky, it doesn't really matter what OWS does. At the end of the day, you don't like them. So whether they carry our legal or illegal action, you'll find a reason to bitch and moan about how "bad" they look to people who disagree with OWS for ideological reasons. It's not my fault you attract anti-OWS psychophants like MaggieD who don't have a first clue as to what it is about but feel the need to insert themselves into any discussion about it and then cry because they're being called trolls. :shrug:
What is OWS about again Maggie? 5$ fees?
As I said somewhere else, it's like Woodstock sneezed and a thousand droplets of snot infected the entire nation. I'm as mad as the next guy over what government being in bed with big business for the past decades has wrought, but I'm not willing to turn to tromping on the rights of others, breaking laws and advocating anarchy as a solution.
What are you willing to do then? Support the same folk that made this come about in the first place? Continue obedience to the status quo while this sort of behavior gets worse? There are "problems" with OWS, it's not a cohesive movement and there could be plenty of ways in which it could be made more effective. But end of the day, at least they've done something.
I don't disagree with you. I think this ousting could be a wake-up call for these demonstrators. If they really want to make a difference, now's the time for Plan B. As in plan.
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