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Do you support legalizing gay marriage?[W:667]

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It revolves around the basic nature of mammal biology that parings are always between a male and female of the species. Whether they're fertile or not isn't the defining criteria.

Not really. If you're going with mammals, there are plenty of herds out there *Papa Bull*...so you'd support polygamy again?
 
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Dream on....they have seen too much progress to give up now.

Not to mention that plenty of people outside the LGBT community will continue to vote on their behalf. Like me
 
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How is it different? Regarding this specific issue?
 
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The problem here is what you believe is the purpose of marriage. You seem to believe it's procreation. It isn't.

And even if it was, gay families fulfill all the same requirements: they have bio kids, they have step kids, they adopt, they use IFV, surrogacy, etc. Just like straight families...

And that is their goal as well, just like for many straight families....**to have families**. And they do, and will continue to do so, married or not but at least SSM provides additional benefits and legal protections for their kids too.
 
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The distinction is that there is not a need to change marriage to include interracial opposite sex couples, there is with same sex couples. Most States have decided not to do that.

According to a bunch of states, they sure did. Otherwise the govt wouldnt have had to 'force' them to recognize interracial marriage. Many states had decided not to do that.
 
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If procreatoin isnt a defining characteristic, then why does gender make a difference?

Why is the govt supporting a 'natural pairing' so important?

And since being gay isnt a choice, it's natural for same gender couples to pair up.
 
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Wrong. You only need consent to have sex with human beings. Bestiality, incest and other similar perversions are illegal because they are unnatural and unacceptable behaviors.

Sources?

There are also public health concerns (disease) and genetic concerns.
 
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I feel exactly the same way about straight couples too.

However I've never seen gay or straight couples having sex out in public so it's never been an issue for me. Dont predict it will become a social issue either.

But major PDAs? Please keep them all at home.
 
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Sources?
 
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I dont notice it more and I'm in an area with legal gay marriage, and lots of openly gay people.

IMO you are just overly sensitive to it because it offends you. You just dont notice the straight people flaunting it.
 
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Hmmmmmm there are 100 vets in my Fleet Reserve Lodge that might disagree with you my left wing friend.

Well then, staying 'silent' you actually ****ed yourselves then, eh?

Cuz SSM is a done deal in the US...I predict within the next year all 50 states....
 
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Your right it does serve a purpose and that purpose is to cheapen traditional marriage.

I'm sad for you and anyone else who's marriages are so weak that they are cheapened by SSM.

Most of us are more secure in our relationships....can withstand all the cheating and lying and domestic abuse and divorce that tarnishes marriage today.

I hope yours survives! Hang in there!
 
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CC I can'tt do that because people like me are in the silent majority and we never get polled............

And thus, your fates are sealed (or issues lost, etc).

You get the point.
 
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A large part of the silent majority don't support SSM unfortunately they or people like me never get questioned on polls.
Hmmmmmm there are 100 vets in my Fleet Reserve Lodge that might disagree with you my left wing friend.

That's because the 100 vets come from a bigoted generation. I'm an afghan vet and most of my generation supports equal rights under the law for all citizens. Luckily you guys are on your way out, so you can take your hatred and intolerance with you.

I am sorry that these homosexuals are ruining your obviously weak marriage. SSM has had no effect on my marriage at all and my relationship with my wife is stronger than it's ever been.

How about LSD in kids' cereals?
Yeah, the point is a no limits libertarian view of the world. There should be no limits on anything. And btw, whiskey cheerios for kids.would be illegal today.

Wtf is the matter with you? LSD in kids' cereal? In an SSM thread? Derail much?

And you've shown again you have absolutely no ****ing idea whatsoever what libertarians believe.
 
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We can now conclude that YOU just hijacked this thread definitively showing YOUR bias towards people who do not agree with YOUR opinion.

Is that one of your functions?

No, we can conclude that I thoroughly destroyed and massacred the OPs premise with rebuttal information of my own. This is known as "debate". Try it sometime. And yes, destroying illogical and/or invalid positions IS one of my functions.
 
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Hitting it multiple times in a roll is rather excessive or should I say obsessive..

If one is going to destroy another's position, doing so thoroughly is certainly the way to go.
 
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1) Natural law is a fallacy.
2) Research shows that children do as well with parents of the same sex and they do with opposite sex parents.
3) Everything you cited as an "example" was everything BUT two same sex parents.
 
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All research proves what you said above has not validity. Thought you'd like to know that so you can adjust your position.
 
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CC I can'tt do that because people like me are in the silent majority and we never get polled............

Excuses, excuses. Of course you get polled. And the "majority" says that SSM is OK. You'd think that if there actually was a "silent majority" who are against SSM, they'd speak out... but since there isn't one, this can't happen.
 
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There is a silent majority on every issue....I belong to the Fleet Reserve Association and we have over 100 members and none have ever been polled on SSM.

And I've never been polled, either... nor any of my friends who support SSM. WE are the "silent majority", and we support SSM.
 
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Guess the founders never envisioned the patent sinfulness of the 21 century.

Let's put it to a vote.

The founders also created a document that helped prevent the majority from oppressing the minority. Let's not put it to a vote.
 
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As usual that is pure crap....Me and many of my fellow Vets would love to be polled.

So would me and my friends.
 
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So marriage is just about children then?

What about straights who can't or won't have kids? Should we bar or dissolve their marriages too?

Furthermore, the notion of natural law is really whatever the person who is citing natural law wants it to mean.
 
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At minimum the COTUS does grant the Federal government the power to force each state to recognize the legitimacy of marriages from other states under I believe the Commerce Clause. So if we actually followed the COTUS, gay marriage should have been legal nationwide with the first state to do it. We were actually violating the COTUS when we allowed states to ignore other states' gay marriages.
 
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