do you support Democrats calls for violence/insurrection ?

[ALiberalModerate]

That is a silly response, because my argument isn't against Bureaucracy, my argument is that the Democratically elected president has the authority to form the bureaucracy as they see fit, that is how a democratically elected government works.

As far as how many bureaucrats we need? That is not the problem, really. It's the money distributed by that bureaucracy that really matters. They can all keep their jobs if they cut their budgets by 25% to bring expenses in line with revenue.

The entire federal payroll is only around 3% of federal outlays. We could fire everyone and hardly see any difference in overall spending.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Yeah, that's all I need to hear from you.

That is a rational response.

 

[Hamish Howl]

That is a rational response.

If you tolerate MAGA, you may as well be MAGA.

Bye.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

If you tolerate MAGA, you may as well be MAGA.

Bye.

I don’t tolerate maga, I am just not baited by them into knee jerk reactions.

 

[maxparrish]

more and more Democrats are calling for violence/insurrection/upheaval .... do you support it ?




Maryland Democratic Rep. Kweisi Mfume
"This will be a congressional fight, a constitutional fight, a legal fight, and on days like this a street fight, yes we will stand," Mfume said.

California Rep. Robert Garcia said the Democratic Party now needs to "bring actual weapons" in the "fight for democracy."
"I think [Musk is] also harming the American public in an enormous way," Garcia said. "And what I think is really important and what the American public want is for us to bring actual weapons to this bar fight. This is an actual fight for democracy, for the future of this country."

In January, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y., also called for Democrats to fight Trump’s agenda "in the streets."
"That's not acceptable. We are going to fight it legislatively. We are going to fight it in the courts. We're going to fight it in the streets."

Support? Probably not. The only insurrection I would support would be one that I led, that would install me as dictator, and give me total power for 10 years to transform the Republic - after which I time I would be allowed to retire anywhere I choose with several billions in cash.

 

[Logician Man]

They so not get such reasonable logic. They are holier than us. It is their way or the highway. They are so self-righteous, that everyone else is the enemy.

It's Trump's way or the highway in today's Republican Party​

WASHINGTON — Yesterday, June 12, 2018, could very well end up being an entire chapter in the history of the Republican Party. After President Trump held his summit with North Korea’s Kim Jong Un (and also after saying the dictator is smart, loves his people and loves his country), the following events took place:

• Rep. Mark Sanford, R-S.C., lost his primary because he wasn’t loyal enough to Trump. “Mark Sanford has been very unhelpful to me in my campaign to MAGA. He is MIA and nothing but trouble. He is better off in Argentina,” Trump tweeted just hours before polls closed in South Carolina. Last week, Rep. Martha Roby, R-Ala., was forced into a runoff after her 2016 opposition to Trump.

• Rep. Barbara Comstock, R-Va., hardly a Trump ally and a former veteran of the Bush 43 administration, got just 61 percent of the vote in her primary against a nominal GOP opponent, while Corey Stewart (who championed Confederate monuments in his unsuccessful gubernatorial bid last year) won the GOP’s Senate primary in Virginia. “Congratulations to Corey Stewart for his great victory,” Trump tweeted this morning.
• Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., who decided not to run for re-election, fumed that GOP Senate leaders blocked his effort to rein in Trump’s tariffs. “In an angry speech on the Senate floor, Corker slammed the ‘powers that be’ for blocking legislation that would have put checks on the president's ability to levy tariffs, especially on friendly nations, in the name of national security,” NBC’s Leigh Ann Caldwell and Heidi Przbyla write.
• And on the topic of immigration, a group of moderate Republicans in the House failed to gather enough petitions to force a vote to protect the DACA program that Trump’s administration tried to rescind (but which the courts have kept alive for now). The House next week will hold votes on two immigration bills – with no guarantee that they will pass and resolve the DACA issue, the Washington Post says.

The four events represent much more than Trump controlling his party, which happened after he accepted the GOP’s presidential nomination and after his surprise victory in November 2016. They make it clear that the Republican Party isn’t a place for dissent against the president — whether it’s GOP politicians who have criticized Trump for being untruthful (Sanford), who want to take action on Trump’s tariffs (Corker) and who no longer supported Trump after the “Access Hollywood” video (Comstock, Roby).

 

[Josie]

If you tolerate MAGA, you may as well be MAGA.

Bye.

Do not deviate from the playbook; do not think outside of the box; do not get out of line. If you do, you're the enemy. This is how cults work.

 

[Lovebug]

more and more Democrats are calling for violence/insurrection/upheaval .... do you support it ?




Maryland Democratic Rep. Kweisi Mfume
"This will be a congressional fight, a constitutional fight, a legal fight, and on days like this a street fight, yes we will stand," Mfume said.

California Rep. Robert Garcia said the Democratic Party now needs to "bring actual weapons" in the "fight for democracy."
"I think [Musk is] also harming the American public in an enormous way," Garcia said. "And what I think is really important and what the American public want is for us to bring actual weapons to this bar fight. This is an actual fight for democracy, for the future of this country."

In January, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y., also called for Democrats to fight Trump’s agenda "in the streets."
"That's not acceptable. We are going to fight it legislatively. We are going to fight it in the courts. We're going to fight it in the streets."

You should give a warning that these links are to Fox News. I refuse to give them clicks.

More than 100 constituents demonstrated alongside the elected leaders. As they cheered in support of the SSA workforce, 11 News observed workers looking down and listening in.

So they were in the streets "fighting", aka demonstrating.

"This fight, this fight is not for the people. It is not for the faithless. This will be a congressional fight, a constitutional fight, a legal fight, and on days like this, a street fight. Yes, we will stand," said U.S. Rep Kweisi Mfume, D-District 7.

Leave it up to Fox to call the comment a call for violence.
Bastids are lying for ratings. Again.

Maryland congressional Democrats headline fiery protest

Maryland congressional Democrats headlined a fiery protest Monday as lawmakers continued to push back against the Trump Administration.

www.wbaltv.com

So no, non MAGAs, Dems and the rest of us, are not condoning violence.

 

[Captain Adverse]

That is a silly response, because my argument isn't against Bureaucracy, my argument is that the Democratically elected president has the authority to form the bureaucracy as they see fit, that is how a democratically elected government works.

As far as how many bureaucrats we need? That is not the problem, really. It's the money distributed by that bureaucracy that really matters. They can all keep their jobs if they cut their budgets by 25% to bring expenses in line with revenue.

I agree for the most part, but IMO we have too many bureaucrats and they are always seeking to expand their authority and position in the Bureaucracy.

 

[jmotivator]

I agree for the most part, but IMO we have too many bureaucrats and they are always seeking to expand their authority and position in the Bureaucracy.

It's not so much the number of bureaucrats but the willingness disobey orders of the President that really matters. I don't really endorse a cleanup of government by numerical reductions to cure corruption than I would suggest losing weight to cure cancer.

 

[Captain Adverse]

It's not so much the number of bureaucrats but the willingness disobey orders of the President that really matters. I don't really endorse a cleanup of government by numerical reductions to cure corruption than I would suggest losing weight to cure cancer.

I can understand, but bloat increases the costs of government. That's one reason why I support Trumps DOGE audits, to cut costs and reduce bloated Agencies and Departments. The other is (of course) to actually find out where the money is going, and then figure out if it's going to valid ends.

 

[Lovebug]

If you tolerate MAGA, you may as well be MAGA.

Bye.

I see what you did there.

 

[Hamish Howl]

So no, non MAGAs, Dems and the rest of us, are not condoning violence.

 

[Josie]

So no, non MAGAs, Dems and the rest of us, are not condoning violence.

I mean - some are. How many people have posted on social media that someone needs to take out Trump and expressed exasperation that the assassination attempts weren't successful?

 

[Lovebug]

I mean - some are. How many people have posted on social media that someone needs to take out Trump and expressed exasperation that the assassination attempts weren't successful?

IDK, you tell me. Are they for real or is President Musk doing what he must?

 

[Josie]

IDK, you tell me. Are they for real or is President Musk doing what he must?

Several people have called for assassination of Trump and expressed dissatisfaction that he wasn't killed. Did you miss all of that?

I don't know what your "President Musk" thing means. You don't tend to explain what you mean nowadays so I guess we'll never know.

 

[Hamish Howl]

I mean - some are. How many people have posted on social media that someone needs to take out Trump and expressed exasperation that the assassination attempts weren't successful?

Oh, some rando on social media?

That's better than an opinion poll.

 

[Josie]

Oh, some rando on social media?

That's better than an opinion poll.

Some randos also tried to assassinate the President.

 

[Lursa]

I mean - some are. How many people have posted on social media that someone needs to take out Trump and expressed exasperation that the assassination attempts weren't successful?

I dont know, how many? Is there place you can link to that's been tracking that? I havent seen it here.

 

[jmotivator]

So no, non MAGAs, Dems and the rest of us, are not condoning violence.

You all need to stop trying to convince everyone that your shit doesn't stink. The only people who agree with you are the other people who already share the same delusion.

 

[Lovebug]

You all need to stop trying to convince everyone that your shit doesn't stink. The only people who agree with you are the other people who already share the same delusion.

My feces have a strong odor depending on what we had for dinner. There's no denying it.

 

[Josie]

You all need to stop trying to convince everyone that your shit doesn't stink. The only people who agree with you are the other people who already share the same delusion.

You'll get a random response that doesn't address the issue at all.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Some randos also tried to assassinate the President.

An outrage.

 

[jmotivator]

My feces have a strong odor depending on what we had for dinner. There's no denying it.

Democrats use violent rhetoric, but don't support the inevitable violence that they foment... but they don't stop fomenting violence with their rhetoric.

 

[Lovebug]

Some randos also tried to assassinate the President.

Not touching that with a ten foot pole. We all know where that's supposed to lead.
But out of curiosity, where are we on that violent insurrection? When did that happen last?