do you support Democrats calls for violence/insurrection ?

[Lord of Planar]

The TRUMP SUPPORTERS that were at the Capitol before Trump's rally was over were not sufficient to get inside the Capitol Building. The many thousands that came from his rally were what tipped it. Obviously his speech that afternoon was just the final straw as many of his supporters came prepared with weapons.

This was all settled years ago. I'm sorry you don't realize that.

 

[JMR]

This was all settled years ago. I'm sorry you don't realize that.

It was settled because the Supreme Court ruled presidents can do whatever the hell they want. It has never been questioned that Jan 6th was a violent attack on our country by Trump supporters.

 

[JMR]

I've often wondered if right wingers advise their children who might attend a political protest what action to take if the protest goes "wild".

a). "Hey sonny, if you see people scaling buildings and breaking windows and attacking police get the hell out of there...

b). "Hey sonny, if you see people scaling buildings and breaking windows and attacking police jump right in and fight like hell!
Maybe steal a memento, or take a s*** on the floor.

 

[Woke MAGA]

Just stating a fact.

Since when is presenting the facts, hateful?

When its done with malice, of course.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Sure, why not?

It's apparently not a big deal.

 

[beefheart]

more and more Democrats are calling for violence/insurrection/upheaval .... do you support it ?




Maryland Democratic Rep. Kweisi Mfume
"This will be a congressional fight, a constitutional fight, a legal fight, and on days like this a street fight, yes we will stand," Mfume said.

California Rep. Robert Garcia said the Democratic Party now needs to "bring actual weapons" in the "fight for democracy."
"I think [Musk is] also harming the American public in an enormous way," Garcia said. "And what I think is really important and what the American public want is for us to bring actual weapons to this bar fight. This is an actual fight for democracy, for the future of this country."

In January, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y., also called for Democrats to fight Trump’s agenda "in the streets."
"That's not acceptable. We are going to fight it legislatively. We are going to fight it in the courts. We're going to fight it in the streets."

Bait thread

 

[Hamish Howl]

Bait thread

Yeah, but let's roll with it.

We were told J6 was just a wild kegger.

Then Trump pardoned all of the boogs.

It is clearly not a big issue to storm the capitol.

 

[exoplanet]

This was all settled years ago. I'm sorry you don't realize that.

Well, if you haven't come up with anything new to defend the indefensible, then yeah I guess it's a waste of my time.

 

[ElChupacabra]

No to violence, yes to legal resistance.

 

[Phys251]

more and more Democrats are calling for violence/insurrection/upheaval .... do you support it ?




Maryland Democratic Rep. Kweisi Mfume
"This will be a congressional fight, a constitutional fight, a legal fight, and on days like this a street fight, yes we will stand," Mfume said.

California Rep. Robert Garcia said the Democratic Party now needs to "bring actual weapons" in the "fight for democracy."
"I think [Musk is] also harming the American public in an enormous way," Garcia said. "And what I think is really important and what the American public want is for us to bring actual weapons to this bar fight. This is an actual fight for democracy, for the future of this country."

In January, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y., also called for Democrats to fight Trump’s agenda "in the streets."
"That's not acceptable. We are going to fight it legislatively. We are going to fight it in the courts. We're going to fight it in the streets."

You want the Reichstag Fire to happen.

 

[beefheart]

Yeah, but let's roll with it.

We were told J6 was just a wild kegger.

Then Trump pardoned all of the boogs.

It is clearly not a big issue to storm the capitol.

Its amazing watching the faux masculine arrogance.

 

[beefheart]

You want the Reichstag Fire to happen.

He already bought the marshmallows...

 

[Hamish Howl]

No to violence, yes to legal resistance.

 

[jmotivator]

The one thing that the last few weeks have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt is that that when a Democrats says "Democracy" what they really mean is "Bureaucracy".

 

[Lursa]

You seem to lack an understanding of the subtly of metaphor. None of the people listed are advocating actual violence. "Fight" in political speak is not an act of violence nor is taking to the streets. It an act of using your political power, including a 'show of political force' expressed in numbers, to stand firm.

I am rather disappointed in Fox, which once a decent news organization. Yes, Fox has always been slanted, but at least they had a commitment to real news. Not anymore. They understand their power to manipulate their viewers who they think of as useful idiots to their ends. They are now in the business of creating news and selling it. They are no better than OAN or ZeroHedge. You are letting them manipulate you. Upgrade your news sources.

The DP experience would be better for all of us if we could all stop disingenuous posting, sensationalizing and just reposting news reports that sensationalize. We are smart people. We could all do a better job filtering this garbage and focus on ACTUAL things that are going on in the world.

I was hoping to get to that point with the OP but he wouldnt answer direct questions. Yes, metaphors. Not sure he knows what those are tho.

The examples that another poster and I posted were not metaphors.

 

[Hamish Howl]

The one thing that the last few weeks have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt is that that when a Democrats says "Democracy" what they really mean is "Bureaucracy".

How many people do you believe should be involved in running a nation of a third of a billion people?

Six? Ten?

 

[Lursa]

Bullshit. If you look at the full transcripts, in the order of time, he said at the rally that they would march together to the capitol.

So he lied.

The riot started before his rally ever finished. I don';t even think he know it was occurring until after the rally was finished.

Source this please.

Jesus. This is unbelievable. After all these years, you guys still go with the proven lies.

No, you seem to have swallowed propaganda.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

The one thing that the last few weeks have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt is that that when a Democrats says "Democracy" what they really mean is "Bureaucracy".

Trump fired 10% of the National Forest Service yesterday (which was already chronically understaffed). I am sure when most Americans think big government bureaucrats, they think of forest service rangers. Trail maintenance, forest management, campgrounds… Who needs that stuff?

 

[Lursa]

This was all settled years ago. I'm sorry you don't realize that.

Yes and a lot of people were tried and convicted for violence and harmful trespass (damage) to our Capitol.

And mango MAGAt pardoned them for their violence in assaulting police, desecration, and stealing. Do you believe that was the right thing to do?

 

[Lursa]

Trump fired 10% of the National Forest Service yesterday (which was already chronically understaffed). I am sure when most Americans think big government bureaucrats, they think of forest service rangers.

Certainly not that they are needed "raking the forests" and preventing more wildfires.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Trump fired 10% of the National Forest Service yesterday (which was already chronically understaffed). I am sure when most Americans think big government bureaucrats, they think of forest service rangers. Trail maintenance, forest management, campgrounds… Who needs that stuff?

The destruction is the point.

 

[jmotivator]

How many people do you believe should be involved in running a nation of a third of a billion people?

Six? Ten?

That is a silly response, because my argument isn't against Bureaucracy, my argument is that the Democratically elected president has the authority to form the bureaucracy as they see fit, that is how a democratically elected government works.

As far as how many bureaucrats we need? That is not the problem, really. It's the money distributed by that bureaucracy that really matters. They can all keep their jobs if they cut their budgets by 25% to bring expenses in line with revenue.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

The destruction is the point.

Here is the thing, there are parts of government that almost certainly overstaffed in some areas. Anytime a business or agency is slow to execute on initiatives, it’s almost always because they have too many people in the wrong positions and not enough in the right positions. Moreover, maga is sort of right about DEI in government (but they are wrong about the reasons it’s bad).

However, only a fool guts everything across the board without putting any real thought into who we really need and who we don’t.

 

[Hamish Howl]

That is a silly response, because my argument isn't against Bureaucracy, my argument is that the Democratically elected president has the authority to form the bureaucracy as they see fit, that is how a democratically elected government works.

And the obvious thing to do is dismantle it with no plan for what happens next.

As far as how many bureaucrats we need? That is not the problem, really. It's the money distributed by that bureaucracy that really matters. They can all keep their jobs if they cut their budgets by 25% to bring expenses in line with revenue.

That sounds like congress's job.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Here is the thing, there are parts of government that almost certainly overstaffed in some areas. Anytime a business or agency is slow to execute on initiatives, it’s almost always because they have too many people in the wrong positions and not enough in the right positions. Moreover, maga is sort of right about DEI in government (but they are wrong about the reasons it’s bad).

However, only a fool guts everything across the board without putting any real thought into who we really need and who we don’t.

Yeah, that's all I need to hear from you.