Do you support asylum for White Afrikaner "refugees" in America? (3 Viewers)

[Port & Starboard]

Has anyone seen the ages of the people getting off those jets? Almost all of them were either very young or weren't even born during apartheid, so they had nothing to do with what happened before.

The criminals who run the government are left blaming whitey for all their problems. They get away with it because they know that their general population is totally ignorant.

They kill each other at a rate that makes South Chicago seem like a picket fence neighborhood.

The country will soon collapse because other countries will just stop doing business with them.

 

[bomberfox]

Has anyone seen the ages of the people getting off those jets? Almost all of them were either very young or weren't even born during apartheid, so they had nothing to do with what happened before.

The criminals who run the government are left blaming whitey for all their problems. They get away with it because they know that their general population is totally ignorant.

They kill each other at a rate that makes South Chicago seem like a picket fence neighborhood.

The country will soon collapse because other countries will just stop doing business with them.

Ever notice that the crime is not a targeted phenomena? Weird how the afrikaner forum leaves that out. Its almost like if you setup a system of jim crow and even more brutal than jim crow, you’re gonna have people wanting justice. I was 4 when apartheid ended. It wasnt that long ago. It is no crime to redistribute land as a form of justice. Unless you think thats all gen z and alpha on that plane then your post is bullshit.

 

[Felis Leo]

I'm not against letting in White South Africans per se. I'd want the same screening for anyone - actual likelihood of abuse in their home countries, indications of willingness to obey our laws, etc.


I am very against sending Afghan interpreters, religious minorities, and other Taliban escapees whom we promised to help back to Afghanistan.

Well, since our present presidential regime is a white nationalist one, that was never going to happen. White Dutch "refugees" only baby.

 

[Athanasius68]

Well, in the current realm of 2025 asylum claiming in the US - it surely does seem to have a racial component.

Brown and black asylum seekers are being deported and/or turned away at our borders.

White ones are being solicited and flown in at tax payers expense and greeted with a party.

Shrug.
That happened in the previous admin- "Brown and black' asylum seekers during the previous administration.

Everything isn't about race, and the administration is simply doing what 'your folks' did during the previous admin.

 

[ajn678]

How is this not a clear example of racial preference of whites and discrimination again black and brown refugees fleeing infinitely worse conditions? Anyone? Bueller?

That's all this is. And its a shame we have a president so deranged, pathetic, and evil that he gets away with it.
MAGA are pure scum.

 

[lynnwinslow]

Shrug.
That happened in the previous admin- "Brown and black' asylum seekers during the previous administration.

Everything isn't about race, and the administration is simply doing what 'your folks' did during the previous admin.

One key difference. President Biden did not stand on a bully pulpit welcoming white refugees and disparaging brown ones.

 

[Mika-El]

Um, yes it does. Otherwise black and brown asylum claims, in the midst of actual genocide, wouldn't be shut down by this same administration. With your blessing.

What are White Afrikaners fleeing from that requires refugee asylum?

To get that answer you would need to know what Musk filled Trump's head withm although one can get an idea frm the press:

'Don't want to live in America': Saffas decline Elon Musk's invitation?

Elon Musk believes white South Africans should be granted immigration into the US based on their 'persecution'. However many are divided...

www.thesouthafrican.com

Trump is bringing white South Africans to the US as refugees. Why?

South Africa says there's no persecution

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Rexedgar]

I know that Immigration has already vetted them which is more than can be said for the millions that came across the southern border.

Can you say “Warp Speed?”

 

[Bonnot]

No. Deport them and deport them back to the Netherlands, not South Africa.

They aren't refugees, they're racist white south africans mad they can't keep the land they only have thanks to the opression of black South Africans which was a result of apartheid.

There is no white genocide like the Nazis in the White House are pushing to justify importing white immigrants to help their voter base out. Also that conpsiracy theory about white genocide is literally a neo nazi conspiracy theory that started to get pushed in 1995 by a Neo Nazi piece of shit named David Lane.

What the scumbags in the GOP are doing under Trump and allowing Trump to do, at the behest of the inbred Neo Nazi white South African in Musk, is ethnically cleanse the country of brown immigrants and replace them with racist white victim complex having immigrants from Musk's former country.

Once again, every accusation is an confession. They're projectionists.

 

[JANFU]

What the hell are you even talking about? What's your actual point? Can you just say it without the gobbledygook?

@OlNate points were clear as day

 

[Rexedgar]

The Boer’s problem was that they didn’t subdue the indigenous population, like we did. “Rocky didn’t like that, said I’m gonna get that boy…..”

 

[Bodi]

Not if trump has anything to say about it! In fact no other group was allowed in with trump’s explicit blessing. White people even white people that overstay their visas are not being sent to cecot.

I bet the same is true with brown people... that have money. It is about money... not about color.



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[JANFU]

Hotel Canada: The white South Africans who have sought asylum

The concept of white South Africans seeking refuge from racial “brutality” and “genocide” post-1994 is nothing new.

mg.co.za

 

[Bodi]

You tried to throw shade on my observation about Trump's racist dog whistle with your "point".
"South Africa is a dangerous mess."
No shit.
Two things can be true at once.
South Africa is dangerous.
Trump is using the situation to blow a racist dog whistle.

What I said is objective.
What you said is subjective.

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[Along Came Jones]

No. Deport them and deport them back to the Netherlands, not South Africa.

They aren't refugees, they're racist white south africans mad they can't keep the land they only have thanks to the opression of black South Africans which was a result of apartheid.

There is no white genocide like the Nazis in the White House are pushing to justify importing white immigrants to help their voter base out. Also that conpsiracy theory about white genocide is literally a neo nazi conspiracy theory that started to get pushed in 1995 by a Neo Nazi piece of shit named David Lane.

What the scumbags in the GOP are doing under Trump and allowing Trump to do, at the behest of the inbred Neo Nazi white South African in Musk, is ethnically cleanse the country of brown immigrants and replace them with racist white victim complex having immigrants from Musk's former country.

Once again, every accusation is an confession. They're projectionists.

I suppose Truth, Forgiveness, and Reconciliation died with Nelson Mandela.

 

[lynnwinslow]

What I said is objective.

I agree.

What you said is subjective.

gIt's my opinion which is based on observations of past and present behavior of the President and in his inner circle.

If you have evidence that my opinion is incorrect, feel free to share it with me. It's a debate site, after all.

 

[Athanasius68]

One key difference. President Biden did not stand on a bully pulpit welcoming white refugees and disparaging brown ones.

His administration welcomed people he is arguing are facing genocide.

 

[lynnwinslow]

His administration welcomed people he is arguing are facing genocide.

That's only half the story ...

 

[Port & Starboard]

Ever notice that the crime is not a targeted phenomena? Weird how the afrikaner forum leaves that out. Its almost like if you setup a system of jim crow and even more brutal than jim crow, you’re gonna have people wanting justice. I was 4 when apartheid ended. It wasnt that long ago. It is no crime to redistribute land as a form of justice. Unless you think thats all gen z and alpha on that plane then your post is bullshit.

I said most of them.

Your bullshit leftist narrative noted.

They are just as violent among their own color as they are towards the white man........but but but.................white American liberals like yourself cling to your narrative.

SA is a dying country that lefties like you want to send money to so their leaders can drive BMW cars.

 

[JANFU]

Consider that while Trump is using government funds to bring in white "refugees" from South Africa without providing any evidence of persecution, he is sending back legal female Afghan refugees to the Taliban, and trying to send back around half million other dark skinned refugees who are also here legally.

My money is on @OlNate is well aware of what you mentioned
IMHO the US shit show ongoing in the US is covered well 8n Canada
Being neighbors i would lay money on Canadians are well versed in US politics, more so than Americans reference their knowledge of Canada
He called it here

Yeah, this is what i mean. It's impossible to talk about one thing at a time with you guys.

Like, yes, all refugees should be helped by countries that claim to be decent, irrespective of skin color or any other defining characteristic.

But you guys kinda don't do that, which will become the thread topic, rather than whether or not these folks are deserving of refugee status, whether it's a good thing or not that America is letting them into the country, etc.

Everything is everything, I guess.

 

[Bodi]

I agree.

gIt's my opinion which is based on observations of past and present behavior of the President and in his inner circle.

If you have evidence that my opinion is incorrect, feel free to share it with me. It's a debate site, after all.

Opinions are fine. I am not interested in that debate. I try not to think of Trump as much as possible...


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[HumblePi]

I support asylum for any refugee who is trying to flee violence and persecution in their home country.

Not one group in preference to any other.

This is completely ludicrous, and the Elon Musk and Donald Trump claims of 'white persecution' in S. Africa is a ploy used by Elon Musk and Donald Trump to attempt to demonstrate to their white racist base, that white people are going through violence in S. Africa and targeted for violence based solely on the color of their skin. It's a lie. A big fat made-up, bullshit lie.

Elon Musk grew up in the environment of apartheid, where Black people were the dominant majority of the population of S. Africa. During apartheid, Black South Africans were severely limited in their ability to own property. There was even a law prohibiting Black Africans from owning property. Specifically, the Natives Land Act of 1913, restricted Black South Africans to owning land in only 7% of the country's territory. That's 471,445 square miles. South Africa is larger than Germany, France, and Italy combined, and Black Africans, indigenous to S. Africa, owned just 7% of that land.

But wow, this was later increased to 13% in 1936, big deal, huh? What this meant for Black Africans is that a vast majority of the land, and with the opportunities for wealth accumulation, was effectively reserved for whites.

And today, in the year 2025, 89 years after the 1936 Native Trust and Land Act; “Ten percent of all South Africans, the majority white, owns more than 90 percent of national wealth, Some 80 percent of the population, overwhelmingly black, owns nothing at all.” — New York Times

On April 27, 1994, Nelson Mandela and the African National Congress (ANC) won the first multiracial democratic election in South Africa’s history, bringing an official end to 46 years of apartheid. So go ahead, Elon and Donald, try to tell us again how these 54 white S. Africans had it so bad.

 

[HumblePi]

Persecution of South Africa’s whites a ‘false narrative,’ president says as Musk repeats genocide claim
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/...president-says-as-musk-repeats-genocide-claim
CAPE TOWN, South Africa (AP) — South African President Cyril Ramaphosa said Monday the claim that white people are being persecuted in his country is a “completely false narrative.” It was his latest attempt to push back against allegations made by U.S. President Donald Trump, Elon Musk and some white minority groups in South Africa.

South African-born Musk, who has regularly accused South Africa’s Black-led government of being anti-white, repeated a claim this weekend in a social media post that some of the country’s political figures are “actively promoting white genocide.”

Ramaphosa said in his weekly message to the nation that South Africans “should not allow events beyond our shores to divide us or turn us against each other.”

“In particular, we should challenge the completely false narrative that our country is a place in which people of a certain race or culture are being targeted for persecution.”

Ramaphosa did not mention names, but his denial was a reference to the allegations by Trump and others that South Africa is deliberately mistreating a white minority group known as Afrikaners by encouraging violent attacks on their farms and introducing a law designed to seize their land.

 

[markdc]

No one was "dumped" anywhere -- except when a handful of regressive "Red" state governors manipulated asylum seekers to get on buses and planes out of their state.

Migrants who have Temporary Protected Status aren't told where to go; they're free to live and work wherever they want. They REVIVED many rural communities, by taking jobs that locals did not and do not want, and fixing up homes that locals left behind.

I mean, really. How do you think this works? Do you think that ICE commands migrants to move to obscure Midwestern towns? That they have the ability to compel migrants to move to Aspen?

And yes, when you act like a racist? You're going to get called out for being a racist.




Dear Leader's motive is in fact obvious. He doesn't give a shit about South Africans. He just wants to a) be a king and b) pwn teh libz.


If that's the case, then you should object to this -- because they are being granted asylum BECAUSE of their race and nationality.

If that is the real reason, then I do object to it. I just don’t like the hypocrisy of the Left. Democrats wanted to bring millions of non-Whites from the Third World into America because they believed that most of these people or their children would vote for their party and give them a permanent lock on the presidency and Congress.

Mark

 

[Real blank]

Have they been legally recognised as refugees?